Digital Research Speaker Scam

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New member
Username: Reinhart

Post Number: 5
Registered: Nov-05
SPKR.GUY, maybe you ought to look underneath my name, where it says "Username: Reinhart" in small type.

As for "Kip Wells," that is my real name. "Reinhart" is my internet callsign. - Reinhart
 

Reinhartisgay
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I cant even find posts of pissed off ducks i slammed anymore cause i have to scroll through 8 pages of Reinharts preaching. STFUFAG!
 

SPKR.GUY
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YA MIKE607 I SEE MEAT GUYS AROUND SOMETIMES WE JUST SCREW AROUND WITH THEM LIKE TELLING THEM THERES A COMPANY LUNCH COMEING UP AND WE NEED ALOT OF MEAT. ITS SO WORTH IT WHEN YOU SEE THERE FACE LIGHT UP WITH DALLOR $ THEN YOU TELL EM THAT YOU GOT SET OF SPEAKERS ON TRADE. THEN THEY RELIZE THAT YOUR A SPEAKER GUY MESSING WITH THEM.
WHAT DO THEY EXPECT WE HAVE SUCH A BETTER HUSTLE.
THEY SELL MEAT TO OLD LADIES WE SELL AUDIO TO ABLE
YOUNG MEN THAT CAN AFFORD THE $,AND THE LIFE LESSON. SCAM I DONT THINK SO A FEW HUNDRED$ AND SPEAKERS IN RETURN IS A LEARNING EXPERIENCE. A SCAM WOULD BE A FEW THOUSAND AND NOTHING TO SHOW FOR IT. SO WHEN THESE PEOPLE LATER IN LIFE ARE CONFRONTED WITH A INVESTMENT THATS TO GOOD TO BE TRUE THEY`LL THINK BACK TO THE SPEAKERS THEY BOUGHT AND HOPEFULLY DO SOME RESEARCH.
THANK ME LATER EVERYONE PEACEOUT.
 

Peter in Portland O.R.
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I WISH I KNEW ABOUT THIS SCAM A WEEK AGO. i BOUGHT 3 SETS WITH MONEY I WAS SAVING TO MAKE A DOWN PAYMENT ON MY FIRST HOUSE. I WAS GOING TO SELL THEM ON E-BAY AND DOUBLE MY MONEY SO I COULD GET INTO A HOUSE SOONER. NOW I CAN'T EVEN GET 2 OR 3 HUNDRED OUT OF THEM. I HAVEN'T TOLD MY MOM OR DAD LET ALONE MY FIANCE, BECAUSE EVERYBODY WILL THINK I'M A DUMBASS FOR BELIEVING THESE GUY'S. THEY LEFT ME A PHONE # BUT I GUESS IT'S BEEN DISCONNECTED AND I'VE DRIVEN ALL AROUND THE SAME AREA WHERE I MET THEM BUT I HAVEN'T HAD ANY LUCK FINDING THEM SO I CAN GET MY MONEY BACK. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY IDEAS SO I CAN GET MY 3K BACK.
 

Cahill
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Whack em in the back of a white van and go to work. Who knows, you might just have a knack for it.
 

New member
Username: Reinhart

Post Number: 10
Registered: Nov-05
The people who don't agree with me want to insult more than provide any kind of convincing defense, much less provide any kind of sensible reasoning.

Someone had even resorted to childish impersonation.

Another here complains that he can no longer read the complaints of the people he bilked. That shows something that people must understand about white van speaker sellers: they're not concered about trying to satisfy their customers but only to take their money and leave them with something not worthwhile and misrepresented.

As for complaints of this product, just do a little Google search or browse around the main forum page on eCoustics:

https://www.ecoustics.com/electronics/forum/home-theater/3.html

- Reinhart
 

New member
Username: Patrolman

Post Number: 1
Registered: Nov-05
Someone decided to impersonate me as well.

SPKR.GUY wrote:
"A SCAM WOULD BE A FEW THOUSAND AND NOTHING TO SHOW FOR IT. SO WHEN THESE PEOPLE LATER IN LIFE ARE CONFRONTED WITH A INVESTMENT THATS TO GOOD TO BE TRUE THEY`LL THINK BACK TO THE SPEAKERS THEY BOUGHT AND HOPEFULLY DO SOME RESEARCH."

You are not performing a public service. Don't even try that one.
 

LoganAZ
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Kip/Reinhart/Patrolman, whoever you are - you need to get a life. Really.
 

Bronze Member
Username: Reinhart

Post Number: 37
Registered: Nov-05
"Kip/Reinhart/Patrolman, whoever you are - you need to get a life. Really."

Still going on with that nonsense?

You need to cut it out. Really. - Reinhart
 

DanFrank
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what about "digital pro audio"? any info?
 

Bronze Member
Username: Reinhart

Post Number: 77
Registered: Nov-05
"what about 'digital pro audio'? any info?"

Well, a good piece of advice is to stay away from any speaker that uses the word "digital" in their brand or words like "digital ready."

That word has been used to death by marketing in order to convey a sense of quality towards the customers, even if they don't exist.

And, "Digital Pro Audio" is a white van speaker anyways. As usual, my advice is to stay away from them. They aren't pro audio grade equipment, contrary to the name. - Reinhart
 

John Caziliano
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I live close to Montreal and a black Cadillac Escalade used to follow me for about 5 minutes when I decided to stop my car in a parking. They told me that they have some speakers to sell me. They show me a receipt with the speakers information on it. It was 2500$ CAD for each speakers (TR-2810). They ask me how much I was ready to pay for them. I gave them 500$ for each (total of 1000$ CAD). I thought I was doing a HELL of a deal. So when I came back to my home I opened them just to see if they were ok and they were. So I put the speakers on eBay for 1500$/pair. One week later, someone bought them. The day after I shipped the speaker to him (in the US). The same day I received an email from the buyer in wich he told me that I'm a SCAM artist of the worst kind. So I looked on google for scam and TR-2810 and I found this forum.

End of the story: The transaction was made through PayPal and the buyer opened a dispute to be refund because he was saying that the speakers collapsed when he opened the box. I'm sure it was just a way to get his money back. Anyway, after 30 days of deliberation, PayPal rejects his claim.
 

New member
Username: None_1

Post Number: 1
Registered: Nov-05
ya'll scammers need to be careful or packing. last month where i'm from a white van go their tires shot out and the side of the van shot up. people are serious about their money. i also heard theirs a anti white van campaign in several cities where people plan to shoot on site.
 

SHUT UP FLEA !!!! :-)
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lol :-) plz White van anti-speaker campaign! how about a BUSH or seat belt ticket or a spanish Mc Donalds in dowtown L,A lol give me a break. SHOOt this i have all your money! going to go spend it all on 3 high priced CALL GRILS and your mom lol lol lol you fu cking idiot
 

Silver Member
Username: Reinhart

Post Number: 104
Registered: Nov-05
You don't have my money, and there are people who are getting informed about the fact that this is a scam before making a purchase from you guys.

And, instead of squandering your money, try making wise investments. That way, your career in the near or far future when you stop working at this won't be on the street corner with your new catchphrase: "Hey pal, got a quarter?" - Reinhart
 

GOOMBA!
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Hi everyone, my names reinhart. Im a total a$s packing reject. I have NOTHING better to do than complain on a gad damn FORUM! need i say more?

Im a speaker guy, i make unbelievable ammounts of money, and i work with my friends.

Toss my salad with a spoon, and cry me a river...your all duckies.
 

Silver Member
Username: Reinhart

Post Number: 132
Registered: Nov-05
"Im a speaker guy, i make unbelievable ammounts of money, and i work with my friends.

Toss my salad with a spoon, and cry me a river...your all duckies."

An example of why one should avoid white van merchants. Do they care about "customer satisfaction?" The quotes from many self-admitted "salesmen," who post here, such as "GOOMBA!" should be an obvious indicator.

As for having "NOTHING better to do than complain on a gad damn FORUM," posting on forums do not take up very much time, so I still can go out and do the things I like in addition to posting.

If it takes that much effort for you to post on a forum, "goomba," then you're an IDIOT. - Reinhart
 

CHINA'S FINEST
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I sell speakers on the street.
"WHOOPIDEE-FRIGGIN-DOO." Get over it.

www.burckhards.com
 

SPKR.GUY
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REINHART I FEEL SORRY THAT YOU'RE STILL
DOING NOTHING BUT SITTING ON YOUR BUTT AND TRYING TO MAKE A POINT. DO YOU EVEN HAVE A POINT ANY MORE?
 

IM GAAY - Reinhart
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HI IM A GAAY FAAG WHO HAS NOTHING BETTER TO DO THAN TO LIVE ON FORUMS AND LISTEN TO MYSELF ALL DAY LONG COME UP WITH REASONS WHY IM BETTER THAN THESE SPEAKERS GUYS IN ORDER TO MAKE MYSELF FEEL BETTER ABOUT MY GAAY SELF.

WHATS GAAYER, MY COMMENTS OR MY NAME? YOU DECIDE.

LOVIN MYSELF...REINHEART
 

Silver Member
Username: Reinhart

Post Number: 145
Registered: Nov-05
Everyone knows it's you, SPKR.GUY.

Your comment is about as clever as a woodpecker on a concrete telephone pole. - Reinhart
 

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i just wanted to let everyone know i purchased a set. they worked very well as a puppy box. i opened them up and cut a hole in the side and the 7 pugs loved it.
 

SPKR.GUY
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OUT OF ALL PEOPLE...RIENHART YOU SHOULD KNOW BETTER! WHAT DO YOU SAY ABOUT ASUMING THINGS YOU IDIOT I HAVE NOT EVEN BEEN TO THE SIGHT IN WHILE THEN I SEE THAT CRAP. HERES A LITTLE HINT IF I WERE TO BE SOMEONE ELSE I WOULD(TAKE OFF CAPSLOCK)
SO NO IT WASNT ME. I JUST WANTED TO TELL EVERY ONE TO GO TO PORTLAND O.R. FOX12 KPTV AND LOOK AT LAST NIGHTS NEWS THERE IS A REPORT ON THE SPEAKER SCAM AND YOU CAN WATCH THE CUT AND IT SHOWS TWO SPEAKER GUYS THAT I KNOW VERY WELL. PS IT QUITE FUNNY GO WATCH!!!
 

Nickyfrmvegas
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PORTLAND OK NOW I KNOW YOU!
 

Silver Member
Username: Reinhart

Post Number: 188
Registered: Nov-05
"OUT OF ALL PEOPLE...RIENHART YOU SHOULD KNOW BETTER! WHAT DO YOU SAY ABOUT ASUMING THINGS YOU IDIOT I HAVE NOT EVEN BEEN TO THE SIGHT IN WHILE THEN I SEE THAT CRAP. HERES A LITTLE HINT IF I WERE TO BE SOMEONE ELSE I WOULD(TAKE OFF CAPSLOCK)
SO NO IT WASNT ME."

Your post that tries to impersonate me fits a pattern that seems to be uniquely yours.

It's more than just merely typing with ALL CAPS, but also patterns that exbihit themselves in sentences, spelling, and vocabulary.

Your word choices and bad spelling were more than enough to give yourself away, you know.

And, as for you not being here in a while, I do not consider three days as being "a while." - Reinhart
 

SPKR.GUY
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YO KIP I HAVE NEVER IMPERSONATED YOU!! IF YOU DONT BELIEVE ME I DONT CARE. I WAS WONDERING IF YOU WENT TO THE FOX SITE AND WATCHED THE SCAM STORY?
 

China's finest
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Yo SPKR.GUY!

Can you give an exact link to the FOX story?

Speakerdude.
 

SPKR.GUY
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I JUST WENT TO PORTLAND O.R. FOX-12 ,AND LOOKED UP THE SPEAKER SCAM STORY. THEN IT CAME UP AND I COULD HIT PLAY AND WATCH IT.
I HAD TO LOOK FOR A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE IM NOT THAT GOOD ON MY P.C.
 

Tism
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Kip, speaking of impersonations, how's Patrolman doing? Dips#it! Of all people you should talk, you negative piece of crap!

Besides the only point he's made is that he's an idiot with no life except for this stupid forum.

Nobody else would devote so much of their valuable time to such a wasted or worthless effort unless they were a complete loser AND/OR they got taken himself. Which is it?

Get off your a$& and smell the friggin' roses, dumba&&. B/C Before you know it- Kenworth coming, BLAMM! Kip, you missed the stop sign.

 

February30th
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Besides, isn't Kip Wells the name of that gaay pornn star that gangbanged like 40 dudes and contracted AIDS and died?

Dude, that's nasty. You make me want to vomit, you disgusting h0m0.

 

SPKR. GUY
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YA TISM THNX FOR REMINDING ME ABOUT PATROLMAN I ALMOST FORGOT.
SEE RIENHARTY OR KIP OR PATROLMAN OR WHAT EVER YOUR NAME IS NOBODY LIKES YOU BETTER YET EVERY ONE HATES YOU SO MY ADVISE TO IS BEAT IT!!!
PEACE OUT TO ALL OF YOU COOL PEOPLE, AND TO YOU (HOME O`S) LIKE KIP GO SUCK A DEEEK!!
 

Silver Member
Username: Reinhart

Post Number: 209
Registered: Nov-05
"Kip, speaking of impersonations, how's Patrolman doing? Dips#it! Of all people you should talk, you negative piece of crap!

Besides the only point he's made is that he's an idiot with no life except for this stupid forum.

Nobody else would devote so much of their valuable time to such a wasted or worthless effort unless they were a complete loser AND/OR they got taken himself. Which is it?

Get off your a$& and smell the friggin' roses, dumba&&. B/C Before you know it- Kenworth coming, BLAMM! Kip, you missed the stop sign."

Do you actually have anything intelligent to say? Or, is all you can do is insult and not try to make a logical discussion?

As for Patrolman, I don't know him and I find it amusing that you think he is me.

As for SPKR.GUY, if it wasn't him, fine. But, impersonations do not contribute anything to the forum.

As for wasting time? I guess wasting five minutes is really serious, eh? - Reinhart
 

Silver Member
Username: Reinhart

Post Number: 210
Registered: Nov-05
"Besides, isn't Kip Wells the name of that gaay pornn star that gangbanged like 40 dudes and contracted AIDS and died?

Dude, that's nasty. You make me want to vomit, you disgusting h0m0."

"Kip Wells" is also the name of an MLB pitcher for the Pittsburgh Pirates.

What's your point besides proving that all you can do is make a poor and, ultimately, unrelated insult that only proves YOUR level of vulgarity and shallowness? - Reinhart
 

Silver Member
Username: Reinhart

Post Number: 211
Registered: Nov-05
"YA TISM THNX FOR REMINDING ME ABOUT PATROLMAN I ALMOST FORGOT.
SEE RIENHARTY OR KIP OR PATROLMAN OR WHAT EVER YOUR NAME IS NOBODY LIKES YOU BETTER YET EVERY ONE HATES YOU SO MY ADVISE TO IS BEAT IT!!!"

Does that include people I've helped out around eCoustics in getting their gear to run or clarifying technical details?

The only people who seem to hate me are people who think like you.

It will take more than childishness and shallow insults to make me leave.

"PEACE OUT TO ALL OF YOU COOL PEOPLE, AND TO YOU (HOME O`S) LIKE KIP GO SUCK A DEEEK!!"

That's hard to do for me since I'm straight.

But, why the suggestion? What does your point suggest about you? - Reinhart
 

Tism
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"But, impersonations do not contribute anything to the forum."

From what I see, neither do you. Move on.

"Nobody else would devote so much of their valuable time to such a wasted or worthless effort unless they were a complete loser AND/OR they got taken himself. Which is it?"

You haven't answered the question. Well which is it, kip? 5 minutes here and there on several posts adds up. Tick tock, tick tock.

You seem to be missing something that is painfully obvious to everyone else here. Please, take some time and work it out, genius.

"everybody is stupid but me" - Homer Simpson
 

Silver Member
Username: Reinhart

Post Number: 221
Registered: Nov-05
"From what I see, neither do you. Move on."

I will reply to any post that is directed towards me.

As for contributions, maybe you should read a little bit more. The basic point: don't buy from white van merchants. That little point is the whole point: my elaboration clarifies exactly why.

"You haven't answered the question. Well which is it, kip? 5 minutes here and there on several posts adds up. Tick tock, tick tock."

It's hard to be a loser if you've got a great career in A/V production. And, because of my experience in this field, I am incapable of being taken by white van deals. Experience in this field allows me to see past the pitch and observe just how worthless the white van speakers are. Plus, if you have any common sense, you wouldn't fall for it to begin with.

Those are the answers to your question.

If you feel that it's unacceptable, then that's your problem because this is the truth and that's all I have to offer you as a reply. - Reinhart

P.S. If you think that posting here is a waste of time, then why in the world are you replying here, wasting your time and life as you and other white van pushers have suggested?

"'everybody is stupid but me' - Homer Simpson"

"I always think it is a mistake to try and be young, because I feel the young people in the United States have not distinguished themselves. The young audience in the United States have not proven to me that they like good movies or good theatre. The films that are made for young people are not wonderful films, they are not thoughtful. They are these blockbusters with special effects. The comedies are dumb, full of toilet jokes, not sophisticated at all. And these are the things the young people embrace. I do not idolize the young." - Woody Allen
 

ithinkfeb30isgay
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why r u familiar with the names of g@y p0rn stars Feb30? plus that homophobic comment? youve got some thinking to do.
 

Silver Member
Username: Reinhart

Post Number: 232
Registered: Nov-05
Well, it seems to me that the people here can't think of a good counter to any opposing points, so they try to insult those who set them in their place to try and get back at their adversary that way.

But, they can't think of an original insult so they always question the $exu@l orientation of those they dislike.

It makes one wonder what level of maturity that these kinds of people actually have, much less sophistication and education. - Reinhart
 

SPKR.GUY
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RIENHART ITS NOT THAT WE ARE NOT INTELIGENT ITS THAT WE DONT CARE WHAT PEOPLE LIKE YOU THINK.
 

Kip Wells hasoYo
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I bought a pair of Digital Reaserch speakers for $200 from this white van man and i was very pleased with what I had boughten when i got them home and hooked them up.

So what im really whant to know does any body know what they are really worth.

And for the person who droped over 3k on 3 sets of them I feel so sorry for you and what kind were they.

And Rinhart I feel mostly sorry for you I hope your girl friend if you even have one is not as ugly as you must be.
 

Joey in C.A.
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I was going to my bank today to cash my paycheck.
I was geting out of my car when this guy said "dude do you like music". Well to make a long story short he gave me the same old story as everyone else. He told me how he only makes $10 an hour. So i felt bad and gave him 20% of the price on the box. Dogg digital is the brand name i cant find any info on them are they the same as digital research? please help !
 

Kip wells F$K OFF
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i was on the way out of the bank and I see this guy pointing at me saying if i wanted this great deal on some speakers cus they were over stocked in there van, and if they were to bring these back there boss would keep them for his self.

so he asked me how much i was willing to spend and i said a 50 a speaker and the guy said that they were worth over 1000 piece so i gave the gut 200 and got 2 Digital reseach 3 way loud speakers, I thought that the name was skettchy but im so glad i bought them cuz they sound so great with my entertainment center, and I hope to hear back that you might have got a great deal like I did.
 

Kip wells F$K OFF
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Dog Digital Audio www.doggdigitalaudio.com They are part of the same scam that I got.
I would like to know how much you paid and if you are pleased with the sound quality.
 

Silver Member
Username: Reinhart

Post Number: 248
Registered: Nov-05
I find that claim highly dubious.

If you can, try out a set of JBL. That may change your opinion.

As for being worth $1000, I don't think so. As for paying $200, you could've scored REAL speakers from a decent brand like Polk or JBL at a Best Buy. - Reinhart
 

Silver Member
Username: Reinhart

Post Number: 249
Registered: Nov-05
"RIENHART ITS NOT THAT WE ARE NOT INTELIGENT ITS THAT WE DONT CARE WHAT PEOPLE LIKE YOU THINK."

Except those who are actually shopping for speakers. - Reinhart
 

Silver Member
Username: Reinhart

Post Number: 250
Registered: Nov-05
"And Rinhart I feel mostly sorry for you I hope your girl friend if you even have one is not as ugly as you must be."

You feel sorry for me, yet you insult me?

Oxymoron, anyone?

As for what your Digital Research speakers are worth, you spent too much. They are worth no more than about $80-$100 a pair, tops.

You probably also gave them beer money, too, eh? - Reinhart
 

shotCaller
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haha...jokes racist post. I dont think its gonna get THAT bad, but hey...white power! black power, yellow green and blue power!!!all i have to say is this reinhart character is one sad piece of work.

"I find that claim highly dubious."

Who the hell talks like that? yes, thats rite...someone who got the sh!t kicked out of them theyr entire lives. You should get out more bud..

I sell speakers out of a van, and i make very good money. I have had the same model Digital research in my home for the past 2 years, Super-U2's. i have never been happier with the quality of my product, and will NEVER pay retail for speakers again.

As for those of you who believe that you got "scammed:....think again. When a company tells you they have a blowout sale, like nike, or rebok..the fact is they raise theyr market price, then add a discounted pervcentage..they tell you that theres a huge sale, buts its a fabricated event that leads you too believe that you will save by purchasing from them.They cause huge markups that ensure your paying top doller for useless crap. The shoes on your feel cost you around 100$...did you know it cost that companie a few dollers in material to make? Do they have forums on Nike scams? ya, i dont think so....you have all been conditioned to accept these daily markups on basic necessities...and now you wanna write a letter of complaint b/c a few honest, goal driven guys wanna step on some toes? well, to hell with that....

ive had my toes stepped on for the past 24 years...time to do some steppin of my own!..

STFO KING!!!! l8s...-ob
 

SPKR.-GUY
Unregistered guest
WHO THE HECK WOULD TALK LIKE THAT EXCEPT
WIENY-RIENY! THAT GUY IS SUCH A SAD SACK-A-CRAP
THAT I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT IT WAS HIM. SO RIENY GET A LIFE...PLEASE.
SHOT CALLER KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK. I WOULD STILL SELL YOU UNDER THE TABLE, BUT MAYBE IM JUST IN THE MOOD TO TALK SOME CRAPOLA.
 

ob
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i have a record of 42.5 sets in 1 week. what bout you champ?
 

SPKR.+GUY
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YOU CAN ASK GLENN ABOUT ME! ONE VAN ONE SUV FOUR GUYS COUNTING ME,AND I PUSH 80-120 EVERY WEEK.
THAT WAS LAST YEAR NOW IM WAITING TO GET MY LICENCE BACK FOR TOO MANY TICKETS. SO IT`S NOW JUST ME AND A DRIVER,AND MONEY SETS IS ALL I CHERRY PICK FOR. IN ONE WEEK 2.5 YEARS AGO I WAS PUSHING P.T.S. AND I DID 46 SOLO!

LOOK ME UP FOR SOME FRIENDLY COMPETE SLAM MORE PETE!
 

oh bee
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i bear mased a guy in the face for telling me i was a scam yesterday. watch who you flea's talk sh!t to out there, you never know what the speaker guys packin.
p.s me biggest sale is a tripple gxsr. 3 sets traded for a 2002 suzuki gsxr 1000. fully customised. hehehe, STFO!
 

nickyfrmvegas
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love the fox 12 news great NO COMMENT lol at 3 offices sold 323 last week 606 and 6030 and palermos (new boxes) so save your money and play the game. and just if you were wondering I AM the best speaker guy in the buiz! i HAVE SOLD MORE speakers than any of you have seen! ask GLENN THAT! bought ofver $90,000 in speakers this month at cost add it up and another $20,000 from jack ammo and 3 2000 chevey ASTRO's to the fleet of 18 trucks that we are runnung in this fine country. but what seperates me from the masses????????? I SAVE %80 OF MY MONEY!! LOVE HATE.......... love this buiz but cant wait till 2009 then i will be out of here... no collage nedded for happines just a Atm
 

Silver Member
Username: Reinhart

Post Number: 267
Registered: Nov-05
"Who the hell talks like that? yes, thats rite...someone who got the sh!t kicked out of them theyr entire lives. You should get out more bud.."

People talk like I do if they're educated. And, there are benefits to a good education.

I guess it's people like you that makes America look bad. The rest of the world sees us as uneducated and idiotic.

Plus, English is a language that one must practice to be truly proficient with it. Having a good vocabulary is one of the things that's done to improve your ability to communicate, especially to those who lead big businesses.

It establishes a very bad impression if you can't speak well for yourself.

"I sell speakers out of a van, and i make very good money. I have had the same model Digital research in my home for the past 2 years, Super-U2's. i have never been happier with the quality of my product, and will NEVER pay retail for speakers again."

Well, good for you then.

But, there are still better speakers, and, in addition to retail, you can buy good speakers used or, if you have the ability to do so, you can build your own set (of course, using decent materials). - Reinhart
 

Leftover Crack
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Good thing I bought mine with money I made from selling weed or I would be feeling pretty bad. I have to say the speakers don't look that bad but I have yet to hear them (getting wires and what not). How do I get setup in this speaker sale system? (probably not the question I should be asking with all these heated people) anyways In the city I go to school in, this sh1t would sell like crazy. I think you all have to get out in the world and see just how bad it is before you go bashing some guy for selling speakers out of a van and the guy deffiently didnt take advantage of me, I offered him $100 and we settles at $200 and some beer the next time he rolls around. Next time you do decide to roll around I'll give you the fat bag of weed instead of the money now that I know what they're all about. Peace!
 

New member
Username: Mike234

Post Number: 2
Registered: Dec-05
Look what these fucks do with our hard earned money

http://spkrmn1.blogspot.com/

Paulies the name of the manager for ORKA Distributors in Sacramento if I lived there and got scamed by them I would be knockin on some doors.
 

New member
Username: Shhtt

Post Number: 1
Registered: Dec-05
Nick from Vegas How about you shut the F$#k up!! Nick Montana all you are is a wannabe dont act like your selling all those sh#@ting palmeros what ever there called where the f*&k did you come up with that flea market name. You Italian retard are giving us the bad rap with the same systems we were selling like 4 years ago with no amp. Anybody who works for Nick in one of his offices be smart go indy pay $90-$100 a set call Glenn, Dragon lady, Dave, Ammo, Conrad, any of them they will all sell to you its all about $$$$$ to the manufactures. Dont make some retarted moron like Nick Montana rich while you bust your a*& for peanuts go get paid yourself. Dont be a sucker he pays like $40-50 a set for that Palmero garbage dont be blind.You can sell better product and have more confidence that costs you less and make more on the streets (indy) or sell Palmero garbage which costs you more and you make less on the streets so in turn your making Nick rich while you get a bowl of c&*k soup Nicks buying a Chevy IROC Camaro with all the cash he makes off you So he can be the real I talian R etart O ut C rusing lol
 

YOURDONEMIKE
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hey mike u still on trainning? U wanna know why u only put a first name? because u are a week flea and u know i will hunt u down and kick the sh it out of u ........... and now i must find every mike in the buiz that knows me untill i find u! u fu cking noob how dare u talk that sh it INdy why so they can be broke like u.. u a flea and could not sell your mother in a whorehouse u fu cking noob ! HOWEVER WITH LOYALTY LIKE YOUR,U MOSTLIKELY TRYED U FLEA SO DOES YOUR MOM STILL HAVE THE AD IN THE PAPER 99. A MIN WILL FU CK? AND LET ME ASK U SOMETHING DO U OWN ANYTHING? U WILL OWE THE HOSPITAL SOME MONEY U ROOK, BUT THATS ALL RIGHT I KNOW YOUR TYPE (GET THERE A S S KICKED THEN CALL THE COPS U WANNA BE AND IF THIS IS CHARLIE OLD BUDDY YOUR FU CKED. WHEN I HAD THOUS 6 GUYS AT YOUR WHAREHOUSE WITH GOLFCLUBS U CRYED LIKE THE LITTLE BI TCH THAT U ARE LOL LOL noob? YES I THINK SOO SOOOOO LETS SEE IF YOUR A BI TCH OR4 A SPEAKERGUY,,,,TELL ME WHO U ARE AND LETS DO THIS BECAUSE AS SOON AS I FIND OUT WHO U ARE,,, U WILL NOT EVEN BE ABLE TO BUY SPEAKERS AT radio shack U NOOB.... MAN U HAVE TO BE THE STUPIDEST PERSON IN THE BUIZ! AND IF YOU DID NOT KNOW BETTER YOU ARE GANNA WISH U DID! YOUR DAYS ARE # U FU CKING FLEA CHILD MOLESTEN CANT BUY A PACK OF CIGS MEXY SWAG SMOKING flea! LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL AND GET THE NAME RIGHT U NOOB MONTAYA ,,BUT DONT WORRY ILL MAKE U SAY IT 20 X AS MY FOOTS IN YOUR A S S U LITTLE fa gg ot LET THE GAMES BEGIN LOL LOL 30 DAYS TOPS IS WHAT U HAVE AND U BEETER NEVER PICK UP AGAIN. wait mike willson WHO THE FU CK ARE U ???????????? a nobody a SPEAKERFLEA THAT COULDNT DO IT WITHOUT BEING CARRIED? WELL I JUST GOT OFF THE PHONE WITH GLENN AND AMMO U FU CKED LIL BOY I BUY $20,000 A WEEK FROM THEM WHAT DO U BUY $200 A WEEK AND U BETTER NOT WORK FOR ALLEN BECAUSE YOU REALLY FU CKED YOU WILL NOT SELL ANY MORE SPEAKERS THIS YEAR LIL BOY GGO TO YOUR ROOM! ANDE WAIT FOR YOUR DADDY TO GET HOME TIME TO TEACH YOU SOME SPEAKER MANERS U FU CKING FLEA WAIT TILL I GET YOUR NAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

NICKYFRMVEGAS
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Thats what i thought u flea! try this out u noob

this is what it means to be a speaker god lol

www.speakergod.blogspot.com


the pic are fuzzy on purpose.dont want to get my fellow speaker guys any unneccesery problems unlike that fu cking idiot. oh ya almost have your address. love your freinds greed!They have the same loyalty as u None! lol

DONT u know he who has the most gold makes the rules,and it seems to me all u have is CO. loaners....u flea quit doing DRUGs and save your cash FLEA
 

helloallitsme
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All I do know is that there were a pair of Realistic Maximus X-100 speakers that were made in 1975. The only positive I could find about this model online was from a user review of a Sony A/V system who mentioned that this model outperformed the Mach One speaker, which is another model that was sold from RadioShack.

Information seems to be elusive for this model.

As for performance, ask to audition them in a listening environment and decide whether or not to buy them based on your sound preferences. If possible, audition them in the listening environment that the speakers will be used in and play music that's familiar to you to make your judgement.

RadioShack did offer some surprisingly good speakers sometimes, and this may be one of them. That's certainly the case with any of their Mach series and almost any RadioShack speaker which uses Linaeum tweeters.

While testing, check the condition of the drivers and see if all of them are outputting sound. Also, check the condition of the surround element on the bass and, if applicable, midrange drivers. The surround is the part that suspends the cone and is found at the cone's outer edge. If it's made of foam rubber, definitely check to see if the drivers in question need a refoam as rubber foam that is old enough will likely have deteriorated. Deteriorated surrounds are characterized by the material being scraped off easily or breaking off into pieces. Without the surround, the cone will not be suspended and the diaphragm will rub against the magnet pole. Even if the deteriorated surround is still able to suspend the cone, a worn surround can also affect the cone action, which may affect the driver's frequency response. Ask to have the price adjusted accordingly if the speaker is in this kind of condition as it will require repair, if you decide to buy it anyways.

There are speaker repair shops that can easily deal with refoaming for the charge of labor and parts. Definitely inquire any speaker and electronics repair shops in your area for their labor rates for two bass driver refoams. Or, if you wish, ask if they can use butyl rubber surrounds in place of foam rubber surrounds as butyl rubber will last longer, but they do cost a bit more.

Hope this helps. - Reinhart
 

jamster
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I think SKR GUY can help you out with some new speakers.

Anyway, if you don't know anything about speakers, what the he11 are you doing here?

Let me guess: looking out for the weak and innocent so that they don't fall for this scam because you get so many complaints 'on the beat'. Give me a break Batman.

I don't think I have to say it but I will - LOSERS!!

Reinhart/Patrolman here's a tip - GET A LIFE!!

OMG!! What kind of pathetic loser poses as two people so it looks like he has a friend? You disgust me. I can't even believe I responded to you. What a loser. I can't wait to tell the guys about this one.

Never Again - Jamster
 

Circuit City MAN
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like the cash we made? $400 ea. check out the proof! A picture is worth a mill, well this one is worth $800 lol have a great day. AND i am a audio visual tech for Circuit City part time on the weekends,and the white Van speakers are the same components as the Sony or JVC or Techniques or the Pioneer line. Now maybe 3 or so years ago we were selling firewood that made noise,but the products in the trucks now are the same if not better for the price range of ..lets say - $200 to$400 anything over and your paying for convenience,or your lack of control,or just plain greed!So enjoy your purchase and put your feet up and enjoy the sound........PSS USE A EQ AND YOU WILL IMPROVE ANY SYSTEM 10 FOLD!
 

LoveTHESEguys
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Damn, it was like a recording how good this guy was. I almost offered him a job with one of my companies!

Seriously though as other people on this thread explained you aren't getting scammed 100% (you are buying a product, it's just a sub-par one) - these are people out to make a living just like everyone else. Whether or not they are ethical is up to individuals to decide. It's just like buying anything
 

BIGbad SOB
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LOVE the white van speaker guys! Today in Tampa, FL my fiance and I were walking into the Guitar Center to buy a drum kit. A white Ford Explorer pulled up beside us and pitched me with the typical DR speaker sale.. I had been pitched sevral times .but I let him hook them up.....and they rocked they were the PALERMO towers with a 400 watt stero. i would of never guessss they worked at all.but again(i cant belive im saying this) THEY SOUND wounderfull mid and highs were above average and the 10 in side fireing sub rattled the car next to us that the car alarm went off. Thinking he had something hidden i made him take me and my fiance "Wordollff" back to the house to hook them up. He did a pefect job ..cant even see the wires...... so i gave him $400 and smoked him out puff puff give!!!!!!
 

DavefromO.R
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Dear everybody who is slamming the "White Van Speakers" I purchased Theater Research TR-606 from a couple of guys in a Circut City parking lot after I had been inside and priced new surround sound systems for my home. This was the third audio store I have been to and have compared a lot of different products both in price and dependability. All of the warrenties were similar but the price varied a lot. I was almost ready to spend $1450.00 when these nice young men told me they had an extra set from an install they did at a local Elks Lodge. They showed me an advertisement in a magazine and it said this exact same set was worth about $3600.00. We bargained back and forth for a while and that was fun for me because they both were colorfull and quick witted. We settled on $400.00 and $25.00 beer money. I didn't even know if they worked or if the warrenty was really any good. I'm happy to say that the speakers are everything I had hoped for. The sound is great and if they only last as long as the warrenty, then I'll go hunt these guy's down and buy another set from them.
 

theweedguy
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Good thing I bought mine with money I made from selling weed or I would be feeling pretty bad. I have to say the speakers don't look that bad but I have yet to hear them (getting wires and what not). How do I get setup in this speaker sale system? (probably not the question I should be asking with all these heated people) anyways In the city I go to school in, this sh1t would sell like crazy. I think you all have to get out in the world and see just how bad it is before you go bashing some guy for selling speakers out of a van and the guy deffiently didnt take advantage of me, I offered him $100 and we settles at $200 and some beer the next time he rolls around. Next time you do decide to roll around I'll give you the fat bag of weed instead of the money now that I know what they're all about. Peace
 

MADE$$
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I live close to Montreal and a black Cadillac Escalade used to follow me for about 5 minutes when I decided to stop my car in a parking. They told me that they have some speakers to sell me. They show me a receipt with the speakers information on it. It was 2500$ CAD for each speakers (TR-2810). They ask me how much I was ready to pay for them. I gave them 500$ for each (total of 1000$ CAD). I thought I was doing a HELL of a deal. So when I came back to my home I opened them just to see if they were ok and they were. So I put the speakers on eBay for 1500$/pair. One week later, someone bought them
 

HOPEisALIVE
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STOP them....they are eveil! I dont care if its a good deal! look how you are living! GIRLS DRUGS fancy cars and more money than any one person should have! Give back to the good people that you gave your stero speakers too,they dont need them,they just lost their way and got greedy.Plz Hope is or last stand ........I tell all this now .The end of the earth is near! be nice and cherish the time you will spend with your local speakerguy it just might be the last person your talking to when (IT) happens!!! SO be nice!!!
 

REWARD
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ANY SPEAKERGUY OR GAL THAT KNOWS THIS FLEAA MIKE PEICE OF SH IT. $5000.00 REWARD FOR INFO TO HIS NAME OR LOCATION!!!!!! PAID CASH OR IN SPEAKERS..I NEVER TURNED ON A SPEAKERGUY IN PUBLIC..We are supposed to have some form of trust amongst ourselfs.He has violated the number 1 rule! AND MAYBE IT WILL BE YOUR INFO HE PUTS UP NEXT! $5000.00 alot of cash to get rid of a flea. white_van_speaker_scam@hotmail.com
 

citoldu
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You guys are either all losers, total idiots or both. Get a life and learn from this valuable lesson about a fool and his money. Complaining on a message board is gonna do absolutely NOTHING to help or warn the next guy. And the stupid "I called my friend on my cell phone and he looked on the internet so I didn't buy them" story is total BullS#it and the "let's call them to set them up and then kick THEIR a$$es" story is total BuLLs#it. You won't do anything except pi$$ yer pants and go home scared. F-in' loooosers!
 

renlove
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The people who don't agree with me want to insult more than provide any kind of convincing defense, much less provide any kind of sensible reasoning.

Someone had even resorted to childish impersonation.

Another here complains that he can no longer read the complaints of the people he bilked. That shows something that people must understand about white van speaker sellers: they're not concered about trying to satisfy their customers but only to take their money and leave them with something not worthwhile and misrepresented.

As for complaints of this product, just do a little Google search or browse around the main forum page on eCoustics:

https://www.ecoustics.com/electronics/forum/home-theater/3.html

- Reinhart
 

GOD101
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Food for thought for the guy and girl who sold me a set of Theater Research 7010 speakers in Roswell GA on 10/18. To refresh your memory I'm the long-haired fool who gave into the power of greed. Anyhow, as soon as you pulled away I realized that it was a scam and decided to not even open the box of supposed speakers. As a result, after work yesterday I drove to Goodwill and donated the set for the sake of clearing my conscience. In terms of the substantial amount of money that I gave you, I pray that you also put it to good use. Next, being a teacher, I have an assignment for you. I hope that you'll take the time to watch Les Miserables and study how the lead character, Jean Valjean, is transformed when the priest out of forgiveness allows Jean Valjean to keep the stolen silverware. It's a life-changing story and one worth noting. There's more to this world than money and making quick cash, and my prayer is that you two latch on to a higher purpose. You're both very talented at what you do, so why not put your skills toward a more noble cause. One that contributes to society. I don't know if what you do is legal or not, but I do know that it's unethical. It is fraudulent. You need to understand that we're all in this world trying to seek a better life. We're all seeking a life filled with true freedom, authentic friedships, true love and joy, and I'm convinced that those who steal and lie to get by will never reach the same levels of freedom and inner peace as those who are honest and base their lives on integrity. Through the job that you've chosen, yes, you may eventually make your fortune, but will you really feel good about yourself for how you made the money? Someday when you're retired and on vacation with your feet propped up and reflecting back on how you acquired your fortune, I'm convinced that you'll never have half the satisfaction of what an honest worker feels. If you feel any remorse for your actions, then you need to ask yourself why - even if it's only an inkling of regret. I believe that in varying degrees based the decisions we make in life that there exists a conscience that actively exists in everyone. It convicts us to take the higher road and to love one another. I also believe that each person's conscience is actually God's voice telling our souls how to live according to his will - not for the sake of following His rules, but so that we can attain the best life that He has called us to live. One that is fruitful and at peace - I'm talking about a peace that passes all understanding and can only be found in Him. Again, my prayer is that you embrace a higher life for your sake, not mine. I know I'll never get my money back. This message is not about that. It's about me hoping/praying/wanting to see you on the other side my friends. There are eternal consequences to our morale decisions. Last, I hope that you check this website and take to heart what I've written. And just b/c you may not believe in what I'm saying know that that doesn't make it untrue. Truth is not based on each person's set of rules but is absolute to all mankind. That is, there are certain truths that hold true to everyone. And our conscience reminds us of the fact that lying and stealing is wrong. With that said, take care of yourself and may God bless you with a more fulfilling life! Also, thanks for helping me to understand the influence of greed in my life - pretty expesive lesson learned. Oh yeah, I also know that you stole my receipt from the ATM, and I hope that you have the integrity not to use any of the information against me. I've already contacted the bank and changed my password. I try to make an honest wage through teaching, and as you probably noticed on the reciept, I can't afford to have any more money withdrawn from my account. God bless my friends!
 

wiener reiny
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Renlove? Should be 'malebuttlove', ya freak. I agree with the guy that said it best: "who talks like that?" Only regular attendees at Comic Book and Star Trek Conventions. You are hilarious. And yeah we did notice someone did impersonate someone else - you did. Thanks for bringing that back up...again. BTW: Why don't you use that Kip Wells 'call sign' anymore. Attracting too much negative attention with a fruity name like that?
 

Commonsense
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Get real, these guys are legit.

All you guys think you got screwed and the cop or the BBB should get involved. No matter what 'Patrolman/Reinhart" says, they don't give a rats about a on-the-street deal where the buyer purchased the goods thinking he was ripping someone off 'because they loaded too many'. If you got ripped off you deserved to because you certainly didn't care that you were ripping someone else off.

Get real people. Instead of warning people not to buy these speakers, tell them to stop being such greedy pr icks.
 

Pigeion
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I recently bought 2 speakers from a green van, and i havent hooked them up yet so im not sure how well they work. I got the same storry about too much merchandise and all. And i agree with both rienhart and the spkr guy, u both make good points....i mean if they speakers work fine than great, but if they dont i was the one dumb enough to buy off 2 guys in a van, these guys were very good at what they do and i think they could con just about anybody with this, it is a good scam and some thought must have been put into it lol....but i also feel like shitt putting money into speakers when i only make $7 an hour lol. Scamming is wrong, but if it gets u your money, good work i guess lol.
 

wiener reiny
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No, no, no...according to that fruitcake kip/reinhart, whether you like them or not, you still got ripped off because they are junk and you should have done your research. Don't kid yourself, Kip is always typically right about these things...typically.
 

Roostersss
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Geez, I got scammed in Rhode Island. I didn't realize this kind of stuff is going on all over the world. Not as bad as most of you guys. I only paid $270 for mine. Maybe I can resell them on ebay.
 

spkr
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maybe il buy them off u for $80 canadian what kind of set is it?
 

Roostersss
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LOL, Thanks but I was looking at least break even.
 

Pete Newton
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Wow, I feel like a knob. Same story as you guys.

I got two DR-1620 speakers the other day as well as a Divinci 2098 receiver. I spent $860 Canadian ($700? American). I thought I was getting a great deal. I have hooked them up and I am quite pleased with the sound. I know almost nothing about sound though. How badly did I get ripped off?

I don't remember anyone saying anything about receivers...is that a different scam?
 

Pete Newton
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PS For all you people who lie to customers regarding the reality of the product, you are pathetic low lifes. Everything in this world has a way of evening out. I certainly can't stop you from stealing from people, but I hope there is a hell because there is no uncertainty that you will be there.

I hope you enjoy your dishonest life. I know every kid wants to grow up to be a theif, liar and a cheat. Congrats on your life's accomplishments. There is more to life than money.

 

Flaxseed Oil
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Lookout for two people in the chicago area/Oak Lawn area. One is a short mexican with a crazy attitude. He talks like he's on speed or something. The other is a girl with brown hair with sunglasses who drives a big chevy truck. They sell the Millennium Sound Labs Home theater systems. Don't know if there real or not but I got scammed and I feel like an idiot because I'm reading now about how this has been going on for a while and down to a T too. ALl the talk with "You owe us a beer" and stuff. Can anyone tell me if these are even real systems or if this is manufactured in a 3rd world country and the MSRP is totally fake? Thanks and beware.
 

New member
Username: Effeewe

Post Number: 1
Registered: Feb-06
I totally got hosed. I NEVER fall for crap like this....unitl now. I was actually in the market for speakers and this guys routine was perfect. If I could find him, I would hire him to sell for my company. I gave away $200 for some crappy speakers that will now just sit in the corner of my office to remind me that some people are just scum. DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO GET INTO CONTACT WITH THEIR CORPORATE OFFICE? Since most of the sales tactics are the same..i.e. "you owe us a beer", there has to be some publications regarding how to do this. Plus, someone is wholesaling this garbage to the "salesmen." I want to find them. Can anyone help. I feel a class action lawsuit coming on.
 

triple setski
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here is some speaker poetry i wrote i call it the slam;

i like to slam all kinds of men

out the back of my white van

i like to slam all kinds of men

and if u cant guess what i am

then straight up im a speaker man
 

Jamster
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or a h0m0

"i like to slam all kinds of men" ?


Dude.
 

truckman2200
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I GOT SCAMMED TOO... well, sorta... Wrote them a check for $200. Realized i got scammed and then put a stop payment on my check. all i had to pay was the $28 stop payment fee. Not bad, a pair of $1680 Digital Research 2800 speakers for $28. I SCAMMED THE FOCKIN SCAMMERS
 

topvan6+400dd200
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CAN U SAY CHECK FRAUD? LOL U REDNECK U JUST BROKE THE LAW .GROSS MIS 6 MO TO A YR IN JAIL..LOL DUMB a s s !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

F rogmanDuluth
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well, i have you all beat. They scammed me out of 1500 dollars not any more than 3 hours ago. yes 1500 not 150. all i can say is i feel like the biggest loser. i am a sucker for good speakers and made these fellows wealthy. They too were driving a white minivan. I even wrote down the plate numbers. why? if i had even one inkling that they were ripping me off i could have said no right away. they even followed me to the bank. how stupid am i. i called in sick to work cuz im so bummed. all i can say is, if your reading this forum, its probably too late and youve already been scammed
 

New member
Username: Lmnopqwerty

Post Number: 1
Registered: Mar-06
to frogman and all others like us,
i was recently scammed out of $480 for a pair of dr-1620's. Like you frgo i thought something was up so i wrote down the license plate number of the vehicle. luckily for me my mother is a deputy sheriff dispatcher and she ran the license plate for me and she ran the phone number of the kid who scammed me. well now i have this dips#@$%ts home address and i am getting what's mine. Anyway frog et all, there us hope...contact the local authorities and say this because doing so makes them liable and leaves you out of the clear and in the right: "i thought they were legitimate salesman and that i was getting a good deal because i know a bit about speakers and thought i was getting a great deal. when i went home i looked up the ACTUAL value of the speakers and discovered that i had been scammed, i also found this website and found out that this is a nationwide scam." by doing this you leave yourself free because you did not say that you knew they were extras and you open up the opportunity for a civil lawsuit because you entered in a civil exchange. this means you can take that piece of d1ck to court and let them get ehat's coming to them and make sure that you get ehat is yours. lastly, this seems to happen at a lot of banks, as such they have cameras and are more than willing to cooperate with you THEIR CUSTOMER so that you feel "safe" going there. the key thing to keep in mind is that you must stick to your story and lie the whole time in court and elsewhere just like these f!@#$ers do so that you get what is absolutely deserved and that they lose out. ALWAYS WRITE THEIR LICENSE PLATE DOWN. even if it comes back as a rental vehicle as mine did, you can still get the name of the company and get theirs in turn....you can even lie and say that you think that they sell coke out of their rental vehicle. fight fire with fire. lastly, always always always get a phone number because you can pay $8 like i did and get even more information such as: home address, parents address, e-mail address, phone numbers, criminal records, etc. the point is is that even the best scammer cannot conver all of these aspects and are likely to screw up somewhere. don;t give up and take a chance, you will most likely get what you deserve.
 

Leverty
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Stop wasting your time bickering and whining back and forth in order to make you seem more self righteous than the other. This is LEverty, I was scammed by 2 guys in a white van at the Wells Fargo bank in minnesota. Fortunately, I was only being half of a dumbass cuz i only shelled out $120, a pac man doll and a led zeppelin cd, all easily replacable. But I'm pissed, and mad as hell at you speaker rejects who think your going to get somewhere by taking advantage of people with real lives, who are trying to get by and make a profit. You can laugh, pick on and make fun of us as long as you f%cking want but your faulty business is going to catch up with you. Youve dug yourself a hole and for most of you, its far to late to climb out. I'm going to find the guys who did this to me, who do this to other people, and who think they are so much more intelligent than the rest of society. This has nothing to do with money, but integrity, the salvation of society and the justice which the legal system has failed to bring us. The longer you sit and laugh, the more time your giving us to find you. Your finished.
 

Leverty
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Frogman and jake the snake,if you guys or anyone else is interested in finding a way to take these morons down, email me at Leverty778@email.com or im me at leverty0021 on aim. Frogman, you live in duluth which means those guys are running all around minnesota. I live in hastings and was scammed at the wells fargo here. They claimed to live up near edina( lie or not these guys know the area somewhat). So i definitely need you to send me an email and give me some more detail about your story, the guys descripion, anything youve got as information to do this. I may not have lost a lot of money compared to the rest, but as of now i make about 650 a month so its quite a sum for a guy whos trying to start his life on his own within the next 6 months. Im behind this whole heartedly to find these guys and bring them to justice, and i PROMISE if you stay optimistic with me you and anyone else who was scammed will get every dime back. We can do this as a group effort, that im sure. So please guys, email me at Leverty778@email.com and fill me on. Lets Do This.
 

Leverty
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Jake, I need you to contact me as well. Youve got quite a lead and some good ideas and i need you in this as well. Email me.
 

leogreene
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I'm a newspaper reporter from the Inland Empire in Calif., including eastern L.A. County and San Bernardino and Riverside counties. Anyone scammed in this area - or if you're a former salesguy from this area, e-mail me at l_greene@dailybulletin.com.
 

New member
Username: Honest_worker

Post Number: 1
Registered: Mar-06
I was just scammed today im soo mad becasue my very and let me repeat last words as I started to realize I might be getting scammed was "This isnt any kind of scam is it i've heard about this whole fake magazine with fake prices and invoice?" and the lowlife scum replied dude these speakers are piano style laqured finish on them TRUST me your getting quite a deal for $220.00 AHHHHH im usually so much smarter than this I tried to look on the bright side since I have a fairly new 3 month old Sony 5.1 system and thought when I got home from work I would try them out but to my dissapointment they dont even compare to my $160.00 legitimate Sony system. Word of mouth will not be enough to stop these guys, who knows what will but I know one thing for sure as long as we all have any bit of greed in our lives this will continue. I will look on the bright side though as I am an optimistic and know that at least I have learned one of lifes lessons. And I will pray for all Speaker guys and gals and hope that they realize that what they are doing is wrong and that they are not truley earning their money like us HONEST AMERICANS!
 

New member
Username: Youknowwho

Post Number: 7
Registered: Mar-06
Bro ..COREY we have been doing this before you had pubic hair........ITS LEAGAL u know buiz lic sales permits.......and pay TAXES!!!
so go beat up your carsalesman that made all that money off u and then slamed u 4 the warrenty lol.....or better yet go to your place of work and tell the owner to give you free health ins. oh wait he cant because he is a honest americain........That only buys americain goods and all his employes are UNION (right?)Did not think soooo!!! so quit your crying.......because like the rest of u.......u thought u were ripping off THE(BOSS) free speakers...... they cost some1 some money!!!!!!! so exactly who did u think got riped off to be able to get them so cheap??????U let yourself belive they were hot .....so in reality ..u were the only theif in the sale..we only do what this country has been doing for 200 yrs (BUY LOW _ SELL HIGH)
 

New member
Username: Dr_2810

Post Number: 1
Registered: Mar-06
I got screwed. I havent listend to them yet- I got the DR-2810 Digital Loudspeaker Towers. I paid $300 cash for both. But, I managed to get their licence plate number..Ontario: AXTH 610. Its a Red piece of junk van. They told me they were delivering them, and too much was loaded into their van by mistake, so they were selling it off to keep the cash for them-selves...i stashed them away, and wont be able to test them. Does anybody know if they actually work, and if they sound good at all?
 

New member
Username: Jblanchett

Post Number: 1
Registered: Mar-06
my husband came home from school all happy because he got this stupid home theater system.
Now I was kind of excited okey realy happy. well he starts doing some research on this home theater system and we find this. How stupid are we. And I watch the toledo news every day and the better buisness bureau is always on there saying if it sounds to good to be true it is. I guess my husband doesnt listen to life rules.
Beware they are in toledo driving a green suv by the name of jeremy. we herd his name like three times reading these messages. he came from chicago.
 

New member
Username: Evil_toad

Post Number: 1
Registered: Apr-06
I just got hit for the DR-2810's. I only paid $160 total for the pair though, so I don't feel as bad.
When I got home, I went to hook them up and had a few problems. There are two sets of hookups in the back, so as if to seperate the bass from the mids/highs, so I went to hook up the bass seperately. Turns out that two plugs were just dummy plugs, and not even wired up to anything. Nothing a screwdriver, speakwire, and a little solder (sp?) couldn't fix.
I have them hooked up to my JVC radio, and they don't sound bad. Because I have the 10's hooked up seperately, I was able to turn down the bass a little.
I feel that with a little rewiring, they were worth the $160.
Toad
 

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Username: Greenwood69

Post Number: 1
Registered: Apr-06
Greenwood indiana
Outside of HHGregg those fochers in a white van thought they could outsmart a home theater guru like myself. I am not a retard, I know home theater and have been selling it for years. I called bullshit when they came up to me and my friends. However we played along a little bit, and told them we would hit the bank and be back.... we hit up the internet and went back after finding this website. Instead of calling the police... like i said... my friend decided that he was going to teach them a lesson. So he hit the first dude right in the mouth when we walked back up on them. We continued to scrap (3 on 3) for about 2 minutes before one of them yelled they had a gun in the van, and we were gonna get shot. I called bullsh it again, but we broke it up for a second. My friend then grabbed the baseball bat out of my car and smashed the sh!t out of the windows on the van. They rolled out foched up and with a broken as s van, and we got away with a dr 1000 set up, which by the way looks pretty and sounds like sh!t... it was a good day for us and a bad day for the bad guys.... dont foch with greenwood thanks for the website
 

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Username: Blacbeard

Post Number: 1
Registered: Jun-06
I too have been scammed.
But it was a teal van.
So I was out on my lunch, and this guy drives up asking me if I wanted to buy some speakers, they ordered too many for an install job and a casino (standard canned approach). We haggle and I get hooked for $250 for a set, $120 in cash and $130 in a check that he accepted. I go back to my office and research these speakers so I can flip em and make a profit. Realizing then, I had been ripped off. Next day after one stop check fee, one call to the attorney generals office, a followup call to the Snohomish County Sheriff's office, and a call from my bank telling me this guy just tried to cash the check. I'm out of $140 ($120 cash, $20 stop check fee).
The cops admonished me to not buy sh!t out of vans. I gave the cops, his name and license plate number. But, folks be wary of a hefty mexican dude named Gordon driving a teal minivan in the north seattle area.
I realize I got off easy, but I was still a dumb sh!t whose eyes got greedy.
so anyone want to buy some sh!tty speakers for $140? ;)
 

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Username: Backpacker

Post Number: 1
Registered: Jul-06
I just recently been scammed as well. I was sitting in my car eating a hotdog when the guy pulled up next to me in a green Chevy Blazer. He asked if I wanted to buy some speakers, and he saw that I was wearing a NOFX shirt and had the Misfits air freshener in my car so I must know my music. He opened the trunk, and immediately pointed out the MSRP as $2999.99. I didn't even look at the brand name which was no one I ever heard before. He wanted $500 but I talked him down to $200. Yea, some deal I got. I did my research online, and I came up to this message board. I took a look at the speakers a few days after getting them, and they actually aren't half bad. If I could have controlled myself, I would have brought it down to $50 for them. I think it's a valuable life lesson. Costly, but a good lesson nonetheless. Ohh, and I have his phone number if anyone wants it: 980-254-5126. I know it's such a dick move, but he put it on himself.
 

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Username: Backpacker

Post Number: 2
Registered: Jul-06
Oh, he was near Durham, NC if anyone needs to know location. And his area code is from Charlotte, so anywhere outside of Charlotte is potential for him.
 

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Username: Jackboy

Post Number: 1
Registered: Jul-06
I was just got scammed on July 06 at Plano, Texas. The setting was very similar to what you all told. The guy told me that his boss gave him a extre set of speaker, each one cost $1699. He also gave me the catalog with the speaker price on it. I paid them $350 because I was greedy at that time. I'd like to pass this information around to everyone. He gave me his cell phone number. I called him before I gave him the money. I tested it, and he had that phone with him. The next day, I tried to called him back, but he did'nt answer it. I maybe a re-paid phone. The phone number is 214-883-6187. Is there a way to track them down to stop this scamm. Please pass this info around to your friends.
 

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Username: Kollapze

Post Number: 1
Registered: Aug-06
looks like they are back hustlin poor college kids now..Gainesville, FL - Aug 06.... at LOWES....same story as everyone else dont even feeel like repeating it..got scammed for 2 digital research pt1100s for $300.. white van with temporary license guys name was Jimmy(904-334-4380) and some other spanish looking guy...can someone explain to me how this company is still getting away with this nationwide?
 

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Username: Adminatron

Post Number: 1
Registered: Oct-06
yeah its chill because i deservd getting ripped.

simple as this, someone feeds you a line about how they sent them double the order, and they want to make some easy cash before the boss finds out - thats helping them steal, i knew that - and lost 200 wazzoos over it - so i figure karma bit me for even trying.


not that they were any better than me, but then again, that doesnt mean im any better.







im an 18 year old male trying to live on my own, work fulltime and afford fulltime community college(while attending) and i WAS currently in the market for more amplification, saw the deal, and knew that i was gonna get screwed... luckly i got that "2500$" system for only 200... well, when my stomachs growling later this week ill remember why i usually dont help ppl steal.
 

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Username: Juniortc

Post Number: 1
Registered: Oct-06
Carmel, IN

AHHHHH.. Well ad another sucker to the list. Same story here. Walking out of a Golf Galaxy 2 guys rolled up in a green minivan. The claim was that they were delivery guys for their company (Digital Research) & taking a load to an electronics convention happening at the RCA dome. Supposedly the sales guys get the extra sets to sale so he wanted to offer them to me. Hook fricking line and sinker. I paid $450 for a set of DR-2810 speakers + a Divinci 6.1 home theater system. Break that out and paid about $150 for each box. Trying to research them online and found this site. Wow.. what an idiot I am. Glad I'm not the only one. I haven't hooked these up yet but I guess I have $450 worth of decent looking crap. Ha, & I thought I negotiated pretty well with that a*shole. I guess we can tell who the real a*shole is now!
 

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Username: Fistpittingnork

Post Number: 1
Registered: Nov-06
It's funny how all of the speaker salesmen are typing their sentences with total disregard to proper grammer and puncuation. Kind of reflects what type of person they are.

You brag on how you don't even need a G.E.D. to have this job, yet you make $1000 or more a week. Don't even need a G.E.D.? Since when is being a worthless human being an even trade for a decent paycheck? Well these type of ghetto-trash jobs aren't going to last forever. You're as disposable as the toilet paper your boss uses to wipe his a$s. Soon enough you'll be out on the streets without both your paycheck, OR your G.E.D.
 

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Username: Shagorian

Post Number: 1
Registered: Nov-06
Might as well go after the one that provides these....

(read below)
http://www.ripoffreport.com/view.asp?id=178330&view=printer

Submit a BBB Claim.....

FYI - I ran into two of these guys in Elkhart, IN - Black SUV (two guys) one told me his name was "joe"
 

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Username: Shagorian

Post Number: 2
Registered: Nov-06
Precision Transducer Systems
1950-B South Grove Mailbox 201
Ontario, CA 91761

Contact: Cristina (Shen) Liu
(909) 930-0028
 

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Username: Shagorian

Post Number: 3
Registered: Nov-06
Also see:

http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff205753.htm
 

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Username: Sergio_vestigio

Post Number: 1
Registered: Nov-06
I am glad the scammers are gone from the thread, Reinhart, I am with you all the way.

Speaker scams may teach someone a lesson about the hard knocks about how distorted our economy is by corrupt individuals that see fit to deceive people and take their money. Just because it teaches them a lesson, which isn't the intent, does not make it right.

That is how the cookie crumbles.
 

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Username: Toobad

Post Number: 1
Registered: Nov-06
You speaker guys are a fu**ing joke you know that. I'm happy that when you got fired from Burger King you found something you're good at to keep you off welfare. I appreciate that. But to be proud of what you do and brag about it . . . that makes me feel sorry for you. You're a bunch of worthless scrubs who have only a mild talent for low level deception. If any of you guys have a family I hope you're smart enough to send your kids to college so one day they can come to work for someone like me and have the right to be proud of what they do. (If you haven't spent all their college money on 3rd hand 10 year old luxury cars) Take care. Keep doing what you do and give the real players something to laugh at.

deuces
 

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Username: Adminatron

Post Number: 2
Registered: Oct-06
you guys arent getting anywhere either... telling them their garbage isnt helping - because they arent going to read it/ and if they do they're obviously ok with that...

im getting email notification after email notification from another person whining, stop whining and go track one down... honestly - at this point you're saying you feel sorry for them, but i feel sorry that you're all wasting even more time on these low lifes... people steal, been that way for centuries... just let it go and focus on the rest of life.
 

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Username: Matt27

Post Number: 2
Registered: Mar-07
i met a guy who was doing that work, he was making sooooo much $$$ and he had a brand new paid expedition, maybe it's a scam, but it's a HUGE money makin' machine!!
 

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Username: Project6

Post Number: 13422
Registered: Dec-03
Yup, it is easy to get a fool to part with his money. And someone out there is capitalizing on this.

It is fruitless to do research after the fact. Most of the time these fools do their research to try and find out about these speakers thinking they really made out with a great deal and get ticked off that they were the ones who got scammed.
 

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Username: Adi1234

Post Number: 1
Registered: Jul-07
These guys were in Deaborn, MI in a Lexus SUV yesterday (July,03,2007).
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