jason you need an iso loader from all accounts from things that i read. most newer loaders that can program both h cards and hu cards can be switched to an iso loader. you can see that i dont have many posts on here its cause i dont tend to talk much just read and listen beacause if someone says anything in the forums and the masses disagree with it. they get attacked and called down. if you read the forums you will find that. most people dont care that testing takes time and skill and most just want to get something from someonelses work. it will be months before a legit program becomes avaliabe and you will know for sure which loaders work and dont work. it is harder now than before cause of dave's security to get whats needed out there the posts make it worse.