Help with hooking up dishes
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New member Username: CrashprimePost Number: 1 Registered: May-11 | I am working on upgrading/tweaking my current setup and here is what I need to acomplsih, along with what I have. I have a Dish 1000.2 pointed at 110/119/129 working perfectly on a 4x1 DiSEqC into a single reciever. I also have a SuperDish 121 pointed at 82/91, going into another 4x1 DiSEqC which I have a seperate cable run for. This also works perfectly, but obviously I need to unscrew/swap the RG6 coax from my reciever to get these two satallites working. So I have an "either or" setup on two seperate cable runs. I would like to run my Dish 1000.2 (Echostar 10/11, 14, and Ciel 2) and, and my SuperDish (pointed at Nimiq 1 & 4) both at the same time. Not only that, but I want to run this 82/91/110/119/129 signal into an additional dual tuner reciever. So I need 3 "real" outs, allowing for all 3 tuners to be on seperate birds at the same time. I have 2 dishes (SuperDish 121, 1000.2), 2 4x1 DiSEqC's, and 2 recievers (one single tuner, one dual tuner). What do I need, and how do I hook it up? |
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Bronze Member Username: Duffy_losers_barPost Number: 13 Registered: Mar-11 | Crashprim.......There is only one person here left that can help you but she may be on a break or combing the web for your answer. I would like to help, but I am still a Rookie. |
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Diamond Member Username: NydasPost Number: 21100 Registered: Jun-06 | I am not sure if this will work. However, here goes.: Cascading two DP44s Two DP44 (I prefer these to DP34) - DP44 #1. One input gets one sat - up to four in from the same Dish One output of the first DP44 goes to an input of the second DP44, leaving three more inputs. The other three inputs of the second DP44 get one, two or three inputs from the remaining LNBs The 4 outputs of the 2nd DP44 go out to 4 receivers. It is expensive, but if you have satellite store nearby or can mail order and return for a refund, it is worth a try. I do not anticipate any damage to LNBs or receivers, if all the connections are done with power off. Do post again with the experience, if you you attempt or in any case, with any other suggestions you succeed with. |
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Silver Member Username: ParillaEl Paso, Texas Post Number: 240 Registered: Mar-11 | That is very poor information nydazz. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzyouare trying to blow up his system | |
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Bronze Member Username: DjsmithPost Number: 21 Registered: May-11 | try a 4 & 5 Input multi-switch | |
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Bronze Member Username: DjsmithPost Number: 22 Registered: May-11 | http://http://www.satellitedish.com/cata0045.htm | |
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Silver Member Username: ParillaEl Paso, Texas Post Number: 241 Registered: Mar-11 | Nydaz has been banned from ALL reputable FTA sites because of her ignorant attitude and personality of a rattlesnake | |
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Diamond Member Username: NydasPost Number: 21101 Registered: Jun-06 | crashprime New member Please igonore Diego Garcia I do not post at any other FTA forum, and I have never been banned from any forum. |
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Silver Member Username: ParillaEl Paso, Texas Post Number: 242 Registered: Mar-11 | YES YOU HAVE You lying scoundrel | |
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Gold Member Username: RunnerguyPluto Post Number: 2343 Registered: Sep-06 | Nydas has been banned from my site and will NOT be allowed back . She is unwilling or unable to debate topics constructively or objectively and uses many many other nics in an effort to answer her own questions and make her false info sound legitament. | |
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Gold Member Username: RunnerguyPluto Post Number: 2344 Registered: Sep-06 | Nydas has been banned from my site and will NOT be allowed back . She is unwilling or unable to debate topics constructively or objectively and uses many many other nics in an effort to answer her own questions and make her false info sound legitament. | |
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Bronze Member Username: FournoPost Number: 25 Registered: Mar-11 | Crashprim..........Try this setup.  |
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Diamond Member Username: NydasPost Number: 21102 Registered: Jun-06 | This diagram posted by Evil Eye does not allow five LNBs - the user wants to "run this 82/91/110/119/129 signal into an additional dual tuner receiver. " To me that means a 5 in - 3 out as a bare minimum requirement. By cascading two DP44s, he is getting 7 in - 4 out scenario. |
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Bronze Member Username: Blue_mondayPost Number: 86 Registered: Aug-08 | Talk is one thing doing it is another. Now show us a diagram |
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Silver Member Username: ParillaEl Paso, Texas Post Number: 243 Registered: Mar-11 | That is just 1 example of why nydas is banned from many sites | |
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Diamond Member Username: NydasPost Number: 21103 Registered: Jun-06 | I am sure crashprime understood what I meant by cascading.. I do not have very good picture drawing tools installed right now. However for the benefit of "The Shadow" and for the idiot "Diego Garcia", I am attaching a combination diagram/picture and text file "Cascade1.zip" which contains "cascade_1.doc"
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Silver Member Username: ChaffPost Number: 703 Registered: Jan-10 | was going to mention a 0/22 tone switch , but I do not know if it will work remove all diseqc switches , take output of super dish and connect to 0\22 switch , connect that to the input port of the dish 1000.2. dish1000.2 has output for three receivers |
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Bronze Member Username: Duffy_losers_barPost Number: 15 Registered: Mar-11 | But Chaff, nydas already said that. He is also sure that Crashprime would understood. And I'm sure that Crashprime said grace and left this place  |
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Diamond Member Username: NydasPost Number: 21104 Registered: Jun-06 | Rookie: Chaff had a different suggestion from mine. However, it would not work, 1. because the method suggested would nullify the internal switching. 2. because the 82 and 91 need to be separately connected with two cables, and there is not enough inputs available. In short, we are looking at genuine 5 inputs, and three outputs. |
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Silver Member Username: ChaffPost Number: 709 Registered: Jan-10 | #1 - was unsure of. #2 - was thinking that the output of superdish 82, 91 would connect to that switch then to input on 1000.2  C/P 22khz switches and DiSEqC switches can work well together, with one restriction, the 22khz switch must come AFTER the DiSEq switch. So you can hook one 22khz switch to two LNBs then hook the output of the 22khz switch to port 1 on the DiSEq switch. So instead of 4 LNBs you could have 5 LNBs hooked up, you can add a 22khz switch to each DiSEqC port for a total of 8 LNBs hooked up to one receiver. Have not tried this. |
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Diamond Member Username: NydasPost Number: 21107 Registered: Jun-06 | Five LNBs |
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Bronze Member Username: MoutsounaPost Number: 15 Registered: Feb-11 | If you got the money this bad Boy has the time.   |
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Diamond Member Username: NydasPost Number: 21109 Registered: Jun-06 | Naxian: If you sead the client's first post, you might recognize that he has "a Dish 1000.2 pointed at 110/119/129" and "SuperDish 121 pointed at 82/91" the first one is Dish network and the second is also Dish network type, since the Bell LNBs and system is mostly Dish type. You are proposing a special direct TV multiswitch, which WILL NOT work on Dish equipment.. |
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Bronze Member Username: MoutsounaPost Number: 17 Registered: Feb-11 | Sorry Crashprime, if you still want to spend the money here is the correct one, my time your money Cheers Satellite USA Electronics DMK55124F Dish Network DishPro Compatible 12-Way Cascadable Multiswitch (DMK55124F) Model: DMK55124F Availability: Usually Ships Same Day The DMK55124F is a passive cascadable multiswitch tap for the distribution of four SAT-IF polarities and terrestrial or CATV signal to up to twelve outlets.Must be used DMK55124F System Launch Amp guarentee proper dB levels. a-- Terrestrial amplifier using push-pull technology a-- The passive distribution is return path compatible (5 ' 862MHz) a-- SAT-IF amplifier precompensating 4 dB slope Our Price: $469.99 |
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Diamond Member Username: NydasPost Number: 21123 Registered: Jun-06 | Why are you bent upon giving him information on expensive four input switches, when he has specifically asked for a switch for Five LNBFs? he has specifically asked for a switch for Five LNBFs The switch you are prposing is good for a small aprtment building or a small motel, feeding 2-4 LNBs to 12 different rooms he has specifically asked for a switch for Five LNBFs |
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Diamond Member Username: NydasPost Number: 21124 Registered: Jun-06 | Multi sats setup by using DP switches This setup either for DP44 or DP34 swicth This method incorporates some of my suggestions and those of Chaff's.  You will have to use two more Ecoda 22 Khz to connect to three receivers. There are free outputs for two more receivers on each of DP33. I would recommend DP44 and not DP33. You may get away with using only one more 22Khz, but might as well do it properly. I am NOT saying that it will work, but it is something that the Gurus have done in the past. Best of luck. |
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Gold Member Username: RunnerguyPluto Post Number: 2347 Registered: Sep-06 | Nalin...crashprime got a good answer to his question on my forum. Your chart is BS | |
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Silver Member Username: Boss_hogPost Number: 281 Registered: Oct-08 | nydas....not bad a Jerry rig for one receiver but the man said he has two receivers and wants to add one more btw......read his post......nothing on 118.7 I wouldn,t spend anymore time searching he started this thread 5 days ago and hasn't been back since. smart man he knew his answer wasn't here. |
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Diamond Member Username: NydasPost Number: 21127 Registered: Jun-06 | I said "There are free outputs for two more receivers on each of DP33. I would recommend DP44 and not DP33. You may get away with using only one more 22Khz, but might as well do it properly. " That allows for three receivers. |
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New member Username: BaffinPost Number: 7 Registered: Mar-11 | The diagram shows two DN receivers connected to two Power Inserters and one 22Khz switch connected to one VS 8000 HD receiver. only a day late and a dollar short. Zulu took care the man.Zulu good piece of work. we need a few good men here. |
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Diamond Member Username: NydasPost Number: 21131 Registered: Jun-06 | Baffin New member Username: Baffin Get out of here - you were suspended, remember! Zulu does NOT have a site any more. I said very clearly to duplicate the setup for one connection to two more places, but you do not have proper eyesight to read or perhaps, you never learnt to read and your Mama is writing for you. |
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Bronze Member Username: Blue_mondayPost Number: 87 Registered: Aug-08 | nydas..............You will have to use two more Ecoda 22 Khz to connect to three receivers. Why? your drawing above is showing three Dish Network receivers connected. |
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Diamond Member Username: NydasPost Number: 21132 Registered: Jun-06 | I got the diagram from my hard drive storage. I don't know whether I made it before or I downloaded it. I do not usually like 22Khz switches, therefore it is unlikely that I drew it. Earlier on May 13, I had said "I do not have very good picture drawing tools installed right now." With the diagram, I said "There are free outputs for two more receivers on each of DP33. I would recommend DP44 and not DP33. You may get away with using only one more 22Khz, but might as well do it properly. " I have done as best as I could with pictures and text. I also want you and all the needle pricking guys here t know that the switching capacities of a DP33/34 and DP44 far exceed those of the 22Khz switch, which is just a toy in comparison to the more sophisticated switches. That is why I had recommended the cascading setup in what It Posted on Friday, May 13, 2011 - 10:31 am: The problem with you guys is that you are too seeped in some old ideas and connections., You do not want to look at the actual technology and technical feasibility built into a complex device. A desktop and its CPU were not built for Internet communications, but people saw the capabilities and turned the use into use of Internet, so much so that I have one old computer dedicated solely to receive certain emails and ring a bell. The other problem has always been since the days of separation between universities and technical schools. The technical school guys were taught "how to" and the University guys were taught "Why"s of situations. The end result has always been that the University guy is eventually better, much better, at problem solving, because he is taught to preferably think with his head before attacking a problem with his hands. A hundred posts in this and other forums shows that That is why a facio-maxillary surgeon is always better than a dentist extending his capabilities to rest of the face. That is why a doctor at the receiving end of an emergency center is always better than the para-medics just trained in life saving techniques. That is why a university guy can devise guidance systems with his brain, leaving it to technicians to implement his ideas. |
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