Project revive door stoper : free channels with new provider

 

Platinum Member
Username: Plymouth

Canada

Post Number: 12466
Registered: Jan-08
Mission Statement:
Dish There are estimated over 20 million free to air satellite receivers located in homes throughout the U.S. and Canada. Our intention is to take advantage of this massive viewer network lying dormant waiting for the product we are about to make available to them. The digital encryption method will run in the clear for all channels containing commercials. Receiver requirements are a digital satellite receiver. A card slot will be required to receive PPV broadcasts.

With factory software the following receivers should work.
Ariza, AZBox, Captive Works, Conaxsat, C00lsat, Drake, Dreambox, Fortec, GEOSat Pro, Icon, I-Link, K-Box, Neosat, NFusion, Pansat or clone, Silverbullet, Sonicview, Sonysat, Viewsat, XTC or any FCC approved FTA receiver.
Taking commercial television to a whole new level.


# Transmission Date: TBA
# Transponders: TBA
# Requirements: FTA Satellite Receiver and 22 inch dish (minimum), (33 inch dish recommended).
# Transmission foot print: North America, including Canada, United States and Mexico.

Transmission will begin with 18 to 20 digital channels in the clear, PPV sports, comedy, and other events will be announced (cards will be required for PPV) available from your local satellite dealer.

This organization is dedicated to the Free to Air Community. We appreciate all your support.

The buck stops here : Founding member Paul Lock

Good new news for us!


http://freedbs.org/news.html
 

Platinum Member
Username: Plymouth

Canada

Post Number: 12467
Registered: Jan-08
Some news for the project:

News Release: 1/13/2010

Response to Emails:
We have been receiving multiple inquires about the satellite and transponders that will be used. The board has decided not to release this information at this time, while negotiations are in process.

Canadian Search:
FreeDBS is in search of a Canadian station that would like to broadcast within this network, If you have a favorite Canadian station, that may be willing to upstream with this network please ask them to contact our program manager Leon Napier

Non-Profit:
FreeDBS will be applying for non-profit status.




News Release: 1/15/2010

From Mr. Napier:
We are a G-rated organization, only family oriented material will be transmitted on the free channels. Does not apply to PPV.

We need your support:
We are working on an independent satellite dealership/installers signup page. We will also have a search page that will allow users to enter a zip code and search for installers/sales close to them.

Thanks for Support:
We wish to thank the many forums and individuals for your support. Special thanks to:
Satelliteguys.us
sadoun.com
FTAbins.net
abadss.com
ecoustics.com
satfix.net
www.legalfreetoair.com
www.hypermegasat.com
www.aaafta.com
primefocusantenna.com





News Release: 1/16/2010

Dealer Signup Page:
We are working on a dealer signup page. The information you give will be made available to users searching for receivers, dishes and installation.




News Release: 1/18/2010

This is a news update from one of the three board members that started this org. We would first offer thanks to the LORD for the help and recommendations of the FTA supporters that have contacted us.

After the board meeting today we have decided that we will support the MPEG-2 format for at least a year. Our first option was MPEG-4 due to the 20 channel capability. We will be going to MPEG-4 in the future ,This is more cost effective to us.

We will have a guide for all channels. Not all Fta"s will work correctly with this guide.

Dish size 30 inches is the nominal size., But I will not rule out a smaller one. If you go much smaller your reception will not be reliable.

We need more stations signed on. We are also starting up some stations with other organizers.

We have been in contact with other Studios and uplinkers that have offered their help. If a deal can be worked out with these people we will have a much larger channel lineup with these studios that are currently on cable and pay satellite.

George Metcalf :Retired NASA engineer that helped send up the first DBS satellite. George has advised us on uplinking issues and is a friend.

He has also put us in contact with other persons that have the same thinking on the FTA / TVRO market.

Our goal is at least 40 channels, with a 100 channel maximum capability.




News Release: 1/19/2010

Site Changes:
This site was put up in a hurry seven days ago. We are now creating an easy navigation menu, and a few extras. Please be patient as we move some of the clutter off the front page.

Dealer Signup:
We have created a dealer sign up page to gather data to be made available to the FTA public. The search page for users remains a work in progress, we are adding code to allow displaying dealers from Canada, Mexico and the Islands.




News Release: 1/20/2010

Channels:
A board member has been in contact with a foreign language broadcaster.
A Polish Channel is under consideration after the initial line up.

We wish to welcome Jack Bills as the new owner of the Aviation Channel.

Dealer Advertising:
We have had a few problems with the free advertising on the "find an installer" page; It seems random selection is just that. You can flip a coin ten times and it may come up heads every time, the odds of it coming up tails on the next flip is fifty percent. The page will now show up to five ads randomly selected. This will allow the user to select an internet company if they can't find a dealer in their area.




News Release: 1/22/2010

We have been receiving an over whelming number of emails, one of the board members has not slept in two days. We will attempt to respond to as many as we can.

Proposed Channel:
Arabic, Polish and other ethnic television channels are under consideration, more information to come, contact us (Don Weaver rep)

We are Considering a veterans channel in the line up. If you desire for this type of channel please contact us.




News Release: 1/23/2010

We would like to welcome Jack Bills the new owner of The Aviation Channel. Jack has been in aviation for many years he owns an aircraft restoration facility and was a personal friend to astronaut Gus Grissom.




News Release: 1/24/2010

We have begun importing some of the hundreds of hours of videos we have received, You can view one of the first ones by clicking on the car for the Race Channel. We will add links to other channel provider samples or streams as we receive permission to do so.

We have added another video to the Race Channel with a never before seen video of the Rigsby crash on August 31, 1952. The entire race in full resolution will be broadcast when the channel is up.


Happy to ear that eCoutics support this project!
 

Silver Member
Username: Cntrlaltdel

Post Number: 305
Registered: Nov-06
They'll have to be lisensed by both the FCC & CRTC... the later being more difficult with the horsesh1t content regulations in Canada.
 

Gold Member
Username: Saqeeb9000

Post Number: 6727
Registered: Oct-07
so basically providers have enough ..
they can't stop people for using fta recs..
 

Platinum Member
Username: Plymouth

Canada

Post Number: 12473
Registered: Jan-08
Bill

You are right but Globecast do same thing, I could not see why they can't have their license!


 

Platinum Member
Username: Plymouth

Canada

Post Number: 12474
Registered: Jan-08
Sada

It could be tough for Dn and Bev if many little providers do like it!

Dn paid to remove many true FTA channels with a very good $$$!

They will not kill our FTA as soon as they think!
 

Gold Member
Username: Saqeeb9000

Post Number: 6730
Registered: Oct-07
so plymouth is this from goverment? or some tv companies?
 

Platinum Member
Username: Plymouth

Canada

Post Number: 12476
Registered: Jan-08
Sada

Are you talking about who started this project?
 

Platinum Member
Username: Plymouth

Canada

Post Number: 12480
Registered: Jan-08
News Release: 1/26/2010

The number of dealers advertising has increased, the lookup page will now randomly select up to five dealers to be displayed, in a random order.
 

Platinum Member
Username: Plymouth

Canada

Post Number: 12481
Registered: Jan-08
For those who want to know who started this project, they are Radio Operators

Program Manager: Leon Napier KB9PGU
# Leon is an amateur radio operator and has been familiar with the FTA industry for many years.


Station Rep: John Bryant
# John is a former C-band and small dish dealer. Mr. Bryant will be our contact with commercial broadcast stations.


Business Manager: Tony Herron
# Tony has been a business owner in southern Indiana for many years. He is our contract negotiator and in charge of funds.


Founding member: Paul Lock

Founding member: Edward W Raisley KB9OXV

Station Manager: Carlos York KB9KOI
# The Mountain Music Channel


Station Manager: Mike Levato KB9UFG
# The Free Fight Channel


Station Manager: Jack Bills
# The Aviation Channel, Race Channel


Assistant Director: Mike Spencer KB9ZWC
# Hunting Fishing Channel


Channel Liaison: Brittney
# Direct Broadcast Satellite News


Web Editor: Kevin Mudd N9ZXA
# Internet support


WebMaster: Web and IT Support
# Website and IT support


Other supporters that represent our organization:
Ed Polly N9RFD
Kevin Norman KB9YMZ
Mellisa Hendrix KB9SET
Lisa Napier KB9VQO
Mark Mauk KC9DFV
 

Silver Member
Username: Bernardmi

Post Number: 758
Registered: Dec-07
Quoted: There are estimated over 20 million free to air satellite receivers located in homes throughout the U.S. and Canada. End of quote.

I doub't this number. My number estimate would be a tenth of that and half of it ended up in the garbage can.

And for the remaining million, their receivers wouldn't be good to receive HD channels. Don't tell me FTA watchers will stay on standard 4:3 format forever...

Remember one thing please. The objective from the satellite operators is to scramble everything. And I mean everything. Even the religious channels. They want to make sure everybody in the street knows that nothing can be seen on FTA. Period. And they are quickly in the process of succeeding !

The solution for this group of ham radio's should be to openly collect millions and offer them to coders so we can use a cardless solution !!!
 

Gold Member
Username: Runnerguy

Pluto

Post Number: 2016
Registered: Sep-06
The original post of this thread is a big bunch of crap
 

Silver Member
Username: Asplover

Post Number: 248
Registered: Jun-06
I like this idea Plymouth. Though, i live in Canada and i know CRTC is very much in favor of only BEV.

Though i hope they will get clearity on this and it will be up soon. Though i do hope they will get some Paki and indian channels for South Asian people who are in real large number in this region.
 

Platinum Member
Username: Plymouth

Canada

Post Number: 12483
Registered: Jan-08
Asp Lover

Few Asian channels are on their project!

Like you know many true FTA International channels are gone on Dn now, they buyed it to kill FTA.
 

Platinum Member
Username: Plymouth

Canada

Post Number: 12522
Registered: Jan-08
News Release: 1/27/2010

Today's board meeting was informal attire. It consisted of ethics, filming and reporting practices. Included at our meeting were some of our staff members. In the picture to your right is Norval Robertson on the left, and Tom Kutter on the right. Norval is one of our reporters. He is an experienced interviewer and has spent many years in the car business as a salesman. Tom is six foot four and can get a camera over the top of a crowd. He has experience with the camera and spent some time in the racing industry as a cameraman at Churchill Downs in Louisville, KY. If you see these guys at your local track, you may find yourself on the Race Channel. Staff members
 

Platinum Member
Username: Plymouth

Canada

Post Number: 12637
Registered: Jan-08
News Release: 2/1/2010

The search for installers from Mexico is now working.

A Spanish forum has also been listed in the support area it is ftapuertorico.webs.com


News Release: 1/31/2010

FreeDbs.org concerns,

#1. We do not want to have any misconceptions!!! Please read Twice if you are new to the Free To Air market . Channels that you can receive now. "Click here" Our channels are not up yet, though we will be streaming in the coming months. From: Mark Mauk : Assistant Program manger, Mike Spencer :Assistant Director.
#2. How long does it take for you to put your channels up ? For us to lease a transponder on a current satellite and not counting other Logistics - 3 hours quoted.
#3.Where is your signal going to be ? This is information that will be released later. Satelliteguys.us and other Sites are very knowledgeable on this subject.
#4. Please read all the information on our site and remember , We are very, very, very conservative. God bless all that read . Leon Napier : Program Manger
#5. From the Executive Producer : Please be patient as we organize our channels.


News Release: 1/28/2010

Zipcode Search:
The Search for installer/Dealer page is currently not working for the country of Mexico. Mexico Dealers may continue to enter information into the system, we will have it working soon.
 

Silver Member
Username: Bernardmi

Post Number: 766
Registered: Dec-07
Quote:

#2. How long does it take for you to put your channels up ? For us to lease a transponder on a current satellite and not counting other Logistics - 3 hours

:Unquote

Do these guys realize renting a satellite transponder is a million dollar contract job.... And renewed years after years... And that is only for one transponder... that could carry at maximum about 12 stations !

What a pile of BS... these guys are daydreaming !
 

Platinum Member
Username: Plymouth

Canada

Post Number: 12650
Registered: Jan-08
Bernard

You are wrong!

Since few year they send many new satellite in the sky then many transponder are empty, the cost is not as much as you think!

Here is a sample, but can be lower than this price today!

Source: http://www.satsig.net/ivsatcos.htm


Internet VSAT access via satellite: Costs

The numbers below are all approximate assumptions. The figures given are not intended to be representative of any particular system. Contact appropriate service providers in your satellite beam coverage areas for quotations.
1. Space segment charges

A satellite costs $300 million to build, launch and operate and has 15 transponders. Over 10 years the cost is then $2 million per annum per transponder.

One transponder is leased and used to provide a high power 34 Mbit/s outlink carrier (hub to remotes). Cost = $2,000,000 per annum
One quarter of another transponder is leased to provide a low power high sensitivity return link capacity (remotes to hub). Cost = $500,000 per annum

In July 2003, in ViaSatellite, SATMEX V at Phoenix Teleport, was advertising C band bandwidth at $3,500 per MHz per month. (equivalent to $1,512,000 per annum for a 36 MHz bandwidth) so the above estimates are not far out but you should be aware of large variations due to power, frequency band, length of lease, pre-emptibility, priority in the rare event of transponder failure etc.

( If you want to buy Ku band satellite transponder capacity from me the price is around $7,000 per MHz per month. This applies to NSS7 Ku band satellite service in Europe, North Africa and Middle East and Ku band operation in the Caribbean areas )

Assume that dedicated capacity assigned to a particular remote = 1 Mbit/s outlink, 250 kbit/s return link. This remote VSAT might have 100 PCs connected in its local LAN.

Cost per remote (outlink) = $2,000,000 / 34 = $58,823 per annum plus:
Cost per remote (return link) = $500,000 / 34 = $14,705 per annum
So..
1000k/250k link will cost $73,528 per annum (dedicated)
or 100k/25k link will cost $7,353 per annum (dedicated)

Smaller capacities, such as 32 kbit/s each way, will be proportionally lower cost and higher capacities, like 2 Mbit/s outlink and 500 kbit/s return link, will be proportionally higher cost.

Very substantial price reduction per VSAT is possible if the bandwidth is shared, typically with contention ratios of 1:5 to 1:100, giving an average bit rate per VSAT terminals of 10kbit/s down and 2.5kbit/s up, giving prices like:

1000k/250k link will cost $175 per month (shared, contention ratio 1:50)
100k/25k link will cost $87.5 per month (shared, contention ratio 1:5)

You pays your money and you get what you pay for !

( satellite-bandwidth-costs bookmark starts here )

Added new 24th November 2005:

Assume satellite transponder bandwidth costs $5000 per MHz per month.

So, if you rent 100 kHz of bandwidth the monthly charge is $500 per month. You could use your 100 kHz for two dedicated carriers, one each way. The first carrier would be the outlink, the second carrier the return link.

Added 30 April 2008:

Global teleports are charging around $6500 - $7000 per month per Mbit/s including termination into the terrestrial internet and assuming QPSK modulation, 3/4rate FEC and operation on a highly reliable Ku Band spot beam satellite. If you use a large dish obviously you get to to use higher order modulation methods like 8PSK or 16QAM and perhaps higher FEC ratios like 7/8, 0.95 which result is much lower space segment charges. Choosing less popular beams, C band an inclined satellite will also gte the cost down, as will longer lease periods, like 1 or several year lease contracts.

If you have capacity to sell please say in the transponder capacity for sale section of the satellite internet forum.

What bit rates are possible?.

If you use (1/2 rate FEC QPSK) and smallest dish then you may squeeze in is about 80 ksps or 80 kbit/s information rate (note: 2 transmission bits per symbol and 1 information bit per symbol).

If you spend more on a large antenna (say 10 times larger) and buy an advanced modern 16-QAM modem with 0.95 turbo FEC then you may be able to achieve 4 transmission bits per symbol and 3 information bits per symbol. So you might get a total of 240 kbit/s information rate.

You could use 240 kbit/s to provide 200 kbit/s downlink speed and 40 kbits/s return uplink speed. This would be good for 1 VoIP phone call (12k each way) plus 28k/188k for web browsing using up to 18 PCs.

Assume hub costs and internet connection amount to $100 per 100kbit/ per month.

Summary: 200k downlink + 40k uplink = $700 per month

There is a further improvement possible. Your outlink should be a tiny share of a giant outlink carrier that occupies a whole transponder, operating at saturation (output back off approx 0.5 dB). Such a carrier is approx twice the power of a multitude of small carriers when the transponder has to be operated backed off to keep intermodulation noise down.

So please use high cost bigger dishes, high cost low phase noise LNBs, high cost PLL locked BUCs and high cost modern modems, and everyone will benefit from the lower monthly costs.

If you agree or disagree with this logic please don't keep quiet about it - contribute your views to my forum at http://www.satsig.net/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=any1

2. Remote terminal vsat equipment costs - price list - for sale

Indoor Electronics (indoor RCST box, cables) = $900

Outdoor dish and RF equipment: Dish, plus feed, omt, transmit reject filter, LNB and BUC = $900 (typical)
Prices will vary with dish size and transmit power (0.5, 1, 1.5, 2, 4, 5W) required.

Delivery, install, taxes etc: $1500 (rough estimate) - makes total = $3300 !

Notes:

Mount: You need a mount pole or non-penetrating (non-pen) mount. A non-pen mount typically has a rectangular frame on which you need to lay many concrete blocks. Is is suitable for a strong flat roof in area without excessive wind speeds.

Polarisation: Some C band systems use circular polarisation in which case you need a C band polariser between the feed horn and the OMT.

Frequency band: Ka, Ku and C band feed parts and LNBs and BUCs are all quite different.

LNB s need to be selected according to frequency sub-band and according to the frequency stability of the local down-converter oscillator e.g. +/- 150 kHz to +/- 500kHz for DRO types or +/- 5 kHz to +/- 25kHz for PLL types.

DRO means Dielectric Resonator Oscillator, which is a free running oscillator depending on the resonant properties of a short cylinder dielectric material. PLL means Phase Locked Loop, this is where transistor circuitry oscillates at the high microwave frequency and by dividing down and comparing with a very stable lower frequency reference oscillator (e.g quartz crystal) a high stability on the microwave frequency is achieved. You need the low stability DRO type to receive high bit rate wide band DVB-S type carriers. You need the PLL type if you are receiving low bit rate low bandwidth SCPC type carriers - otherwise you may never find the carrier ! +/- 500 kHz stability is pretty useless if you are searching for a 10 kHz wide SCPC voice carrier !

Installation: If you are really patient and skilful at setting the elevation angle accurately by calculation and inclinometer (or weight on string) measurement you can find the satellite with the receiver alone. A simple satellite finder signal detector ($75) is the next best thing but does not tell you if you have the right satellite.- If you can afford it a spectrum analysers, e.g. AVcom at $2800, you can easily find the satellite and peak up perfectly and rotate the feed polarisation perfectly which is essential if the uplink cross polar interference performance is to be acceptable.
3. Teleport Hub charges

The cost of the large teleport hub dish, hub rack equipment, site land, buildings, staff, power, internet backbone connection, government licence etc all need to be added and divided over the lifetime of the project. Licensing of the remote terminals (if required) may be either paid centrally by the service provider or by each individual remote user according to the local country tax arrangements. In the above assumption the cost of the hub, network licence etc is approx the same as the space segment charge, but the ratio will vary a great deal according to use.

Typical hub prices are: 8.1m dia antenna $200K
Hub equipment racks and control computers: TDM/TDMA Hub $450K
Remote terminals (wholesale price) 200 VSATs $200K ($1000 each)

Return web site links:

VSAT satellite internet

Page 28 Feb 2005. Updated: 30 April 2007
 

Silver Member
Username: Bernardmi

Post Number: 767
Registered: Dec-07
Plymouth.... they forget to mention that suppliers will probably charge twice the amounts to allow for replacing the satellite since it only lasts for 10 to 12 years. Yes when a satellite dies, its replacement is usually all paid up cash !!!!

Oh and I forgot profit. Companies will charge at least 15 to 50 percent more for pure profit. Otherwise companies would not exist.

Second.... to carry a half decent image, you need at least a 4 mbps channel. Otherwise you end up with sh_tty image such the ones seen on Galaxy 19 where they put more than 18 channels per transponder. I have even seen 34 channels on some transponder. When the preacher wave his hand, you get pixels 3 inch square around his hand !!!

So if we have 36mbps per transponder available for12 customers we end up with 3mbps per customer. You still end up with almost $200K per year for that channel.

Will any broadcast station pay $200,000 per year just for FTA viewers ??? I doubt...
 

Silver Member
Username: Bernardmi

Post Number: 768
Registered: Dec-07
Oh... and prices for satellite transponders go up. Always.

Never down.
 

Silver Member
Username: Hannity

MAYBE I CAN ASK TO, ADM FOR BAN YOU

Post Number: 242
Registered: May-09
Can I get Turner Classic Movies TCM with this setup?
 

Silver Member
Username: Birdwatcher

Post Number: 828
Registered: Jul-06
cough cough...bullshiot!!! lol
 

Platinum Member
Username: Plymouth

Canada

Post Number: 12673
Registered: Jan-08
News Release: 2/2/2010

Jack Bills is part owner of the Race Channel, Aviation Channel and the Farm Channel. The films he has provided to the Race Channel begin in the 1940s at Vigo County (Terre Haute), Indiana. Many of the races such as the Crosley Races in Louisville Kentucky have never been filmed accept by him. The copyrighted value of the films he has provided to us is estimated at three hundred million.


News Release: 2/1/2010

The search for installers from Mexico is now working.

A Spanish forum has also been listed in the support area it is ftapuertorico.webs.com
 

Platinum Member
Username: Plymouth

Canada

Post Number: 12736
Registered: Jan-08
News Release: 2/11/2010

We have added a few sample video streams to The War channel, Cowboy TV, Laugh Network and The Kids Television Network.


News Release: 2/10/2010

We have been upgrading security with user PCs to prevent Hijacking, this process may slow some of our response to emails please be patient.

We have also been working with the many content providers who have contacted us and reviewing content as it comes in.


News Release: 2/8/2010

We have added the Free sports channel to our line up.

There will also be several audio sub carriers including book reading and talk radio.
 

Silver Member
Username: Wakenbake

Post Number: 416
Registered: Mar-06
With factory software the following receivers should work., blah , blah , blah...


Transmission will begin with 18 to 20 digital channels in the clear, PPV sports, comedy, and other events will be announced (cards will be required for PPV) available from your local satellite dealer.


Now how can factory software support cards..would all receiver makes and models need new factory software or would i put ppv card in a fortec and it would work.
 

Platinum Member
Username: Plymouth

Canada

Post Number: 12741
Registered: Jan-08
Wakenbake

I have VS Ultra which has a slot for a card, with the factory, I can't see why it will not work since it's standard feature!
 

Platinum Member
Username: Plymouth

Canada

Post Number: 12825
Registered: Jan-08
News Release: 2/18/2010

The proposed orbital position for our satellite will be between 80 and 100 degrees west.


News Release: 2/14/2010

We ask our Viewers to bare with us as we get our channels organized. Some things have gone a lot faster then expected and others like the free fight channel and the hunting and fishing channel have been slower. We were planning to put up all the channels up at once but, due to slow processing of some material we will be making changes to accommodate everyone and to speed up our transmission.

The Channels that signed up first will have priority. We do not wish to duplicate their material.
 

Platinum Member
Username: Plymouth

Canada

Post Number: 12973
Registered: Jan-08
News Release: 3/2/2010

We have been in contact with the Senior Editor of The Real News Network, (Paul Jay) he has expressed an interest in providing content for our news channel, and requested that we announce this.

Our negotiator for transponder access is still working on our lease contracts at this time. He is working to acquire three of the wider transponders on a satellite between 100 and 80 degrees. We have discussed a target date for operation but will not release this until contracts are complete.
 

Platinum Member
Username: Plymouth

Canada

Post Number: 12974
Registered: Jan-08
They have 15 channels contract closed!

Include CBS, FOX, NBC and ABC!

http://freedbs.org/Channels.html
 

Silver Member
Username: Shenanigans

Post Number: 336
Registered: Sep-06
I wonder if the major networks being on that system will really materialize. Each affiliate has exclusive rights to their specific markets in the US. That has been a huge problem for satellite delivered network signals all along. It will be interesting to see if their programming will be delivered FTA for all to see for free. Somehow I have a feeling it's not going to be allowed. But hey, maybe I'm wrong. I hope I am. lol
 

Silver Member
Username: Ei_toro_the_great

Post Number: 123
Registered: Feb-10
Some dam good channels are listed only if they
can break ground Closed Contract don't
mean a sure thing who knows what in the
hell is written in those contracts.

First they need the chicken and then comes the egg.

Good Luck, I hope they get it to work
I will be their first customer
Hill Billy and CowBoy Television
For us USA redneck Boys who could ask
for more


NBC Affiliate Super Station
Reserved Space for a NBC Super station
Closed

CowBoy Television
All westerns all the time.
Program Advisor: Joe Renck
Contract - Closed

Hunting Fishing Channel
Contact Mike Spencer
Being organized

Mountain Music Channel
Hill Billy TV at its finest. Something different than country, with down home musicians and music videos like you have never seen or heard before from Whitesburg, Kentucky. Contact: Carlos York
Contract - Closed

The Farm Channel
Up-to-date market prices, when to plant, what to plant and market predictions. Information and documentaries on live stock, dairy, and crops. Being organized
 

Platinum Member
Username: Plymouth

Canada

Post Number: 13163
Registered: Jan-08
News Release: 3/10/2010

We are currently working on the DVPs and the video database that will deliver the content to the multiplex (MUX) system. We have plenty of commercial time but few commercials to place in the system. Before our official broadcast date we will have free space available. If you would like to take advantage of free advertising time available or plan to purchase advertising time in the future please send in your commercial videos to Advertising at Freedbs.org

The commercials must be fifteen, thirty, forty five or sixty seconds long. We can except almost any video format but prefer (DIVX) due to the faster transition within the system. Please provide a resolution of 640x480 NTSC or higher. If you have satellite equipment sales, or are a distributer or installer, it would be in our best interest to grant free advertising to help you reach our potential viewers, your customers. Advertising space will be made available on a first come first serve bases.
 

Platinum Member
Username: Plymouth

Canada

Post Number: 13177
Registered: Jan-08
Update channels closed:

Diamond Billiards Channel
Direct Broadcast Satellite News
The Aviation Channel
CowBoy Television
Direct Broadcast Satellite Information
Mountain Music Channel
Home Builder's Channel
The Race Channel
The Free Movie Channel
Free Sports Channel
The Horse Channel
CBS Affiliate Super Station
FOX Affiliate Super Station
ABC Affiliate Super Station
NBC Affiliate Super Station

"Transmission will begin with 18 to 20 digital channels in the clear"

They are very close to their previous need with 15 channels!
 

Platinum Member
Username: Plymouth

Canada

Post Number: 13300
Registered: Jan-08
News Release: 3/22/2010

Image One of our board members spent most of the day Thursday, all day Friday and Saturday, then most of Sunday watching our cowboy channel video data player. Wayne also quickly got tired of watching a limited set of commercials that were placed in the database. The transition times between film, to commercials then back to film was close to instant, and saved us a few valuable seconds that was our first fears with the system. A few staff members were introduced to some of the in-house software designed to maintain the programming for the channels under control of Freedbs.org.

March 18th 2010: Started inhouse equipment test.

March 21st 2010: Completed equipment test.
 

Bronze Member
Username: Pancho_vili

Post Number: 55
Registered: Feb-10
C/P
http://freedbs.org/news.html
News Release: 3/22/2010
One of our board members spent most of the day Thursday, all day Friday and Saturday, then most of Sunday watching our cowboy channel video data player. Wayne also quickly got tired of watching a limited set of commercials that were placed in the database. The transition times between film, to commercials then back to film was close to instant, and saved us a few valuable seconds that was our first fears with the system. A few staff members were introduced to some of the in-house software designed to maintain the programming for the channels under control of Freedbs.org.

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Bronze Member
Username: Sfh99

TorontoCanada

Post Number: 50
Registered: Jun-06
please enlighten me plymouth . How can I watch these channels. I have sonicview s4000 and with two dishes pointed at west (one is small and one is a big dish i guess 33 inch). Do i have to buy a software to load on my receiver. how this thing works
 

Platinum Member
Username: Plymouth

Canada

Post Number: 13322
Registered: Jan-08
Farhan

Your receiver and your 33" dish can get those channels but a linear LNB is require, all receiver with factory bin or not can get those KU channels not encrypted!
 

Bronze Member
Username: Never_on_sunday

Post Number: 42
Registered: Feb-10
Farhan................How can I watch these channels.

You can't you will need to wait, don't waste your money

Here read this...........they don't even have a lease
on a Satellite Transponders.

Our negotiator for transponder access is still working on our lease contracts at this time. He is working to acquire three of the wider transponders on a satellite between 100 and 80 degrees. We have discussed a target date for operation but will not release this until contracts are complete.

After the board meeting today we have decided that we will support the MPEG-2 format for at least a year. Our first option was MPEG-4 due to the 20 channel capability. We will be going to MPEG-4 in the future ,This is more cost effective to us.

We will have a guide for all channels. Not all Fta"s will work correctly with this guide.

Dish size 30 inches is the nominal size., But I will not rule out a smaller one. If you go much smaller your reception will not be reliable.

http://freedbs.org/news.html
 

Silver Member
Username: Wakenbake

Post Number: 425
Registered: Mar-06
How can I watch these channels

You can watch some of the channels contents.

http://freedbs.org/StreamSIFI.html
 

Platinum Member
Username: Plymouth

Canada

Post Number: 13555
Registered: Jan-08
News Release: 3/30/2010

We are now estimating a broadcast date from 3 to 12 months, many of our channels are coming together but the process is slow do to the massive amount of content and limited personal we have to assembly it.

If you are sending in MMA, wrestling or boxing films please contact Charlie Mattingly with the Amateur Mixed Martial Arts Organization. We will be broadcasting MMA fights for up to twenty MMA clubs, along with wrestling, and boxing on the Fight channel during prime time. The channel will run 24-7 with many of the martial arts movies produced during the 70s and 80s airing after hours and non-primetime. You may click here to view a Sample Video created by Shooter Russell.

We have a conservative estimate of 2 million viewers when we begin broadcasting; our advertising time has been priced at a competitive. Contact Rebecka Green for pricing.
 

Silver Member
Username: Pancho_vili

Post Number: 123
Registered: Feb-10
C/P from
http://freedbs.org/news.html

News Release: 3/30/2010 and same old Sh1t
We are now estimating a broadcast date from 3 to 12 months,
N3 could be crack before they go on air.

No Desi channels for the brothers
 

Platinum Member
Username: Plymouth

Canada

Post Number: 13556
Registered: Jan-08
Hombre

They never mentionned to be up in i month!

I'm a white men native in Canada, so Desi are my friends like the others!
 

Silver Member
Username: Bernardmi

Post Number: 784
Registered: Dec-07
Plymouth !

Quote ---
Canadian Search:
FreeDBS is in search of a Canadian station that would like to broadcast within this network, If you have a favorite Canadian station, that may be willing to upstream with this network please ask them to contact our program manager Leon Napier
---Unquote

Héhéhé maybe we could suggest them V channel.... They are even bringing back Call-TV in a few months....
 

Platinum Member
Username: Plymouth

Canada

Post Number: 13561
Registered: Jan-08
Bernard

LOL! I don't think they want a French channel, Call TV is the worst program diffused on V!

Sais tu quand Radio-Québec diffusera en HD, l'antenne est installe depuis l'automne passe?

C'est long avant d'avoir du HD a Quebec!
 

Silver Member
Username: Bernardmi

Post Number: 785
Registered: Dec-07
Crime ca devrait pas etre long... je te c/p un texte que je viens de lire dans leur rapport annuel:

Dans la région de Québec, un émetteur numérique sera en opération en février 2010. Et d'ici la date butoir du 31 aout 2011 imposée par le CRTC, la Société transformera au numérique l'ensemble de ses antennes.

Donc ils sont en retard de 2 mois ! Et le CRTC vient tout juste, aussi, de refuser la demande de tous les autres diffuseurs de reporter la date du 31 aout 2011. Le CRTC refuse en disant que les postes de TV auraient du avoir le temps de procéder a l'installation durant la période de 3 ans qu'ils ont eus pour le faire !!!!
 

Silver Member
Username: Chaff

Post Number: 131
Registered: Jan-10
Is the site free-dbs or freed-bs,

20 million receivers lying dormant and their first choice is mpeg4 platform--what a bunch of retards, it took a board meeting for the nitwits to figure out that the 20 million receivers are mpeg2...


If you don't have mpeg4 receiver or put up a dish for FTA sats , I wouldn't bother with this freedbs, as they intend to change to mpeg4 and who would buy an HD receiver to watch their SD content ?
 

Platinum Member
Username: Plymouth

Canada

Post Number: 13595
Registered: Jan-08
Chaff

Read the complete thread!

You will not need a HD receiver but a SD!
 

Silver Member
Username: Chaff

Post Number: 132
Registered: Jan-10
News Release: 1/18/2010

After the board meeting today we have decided that we will support the MPEG-2 format for at least a year. Our first option was MPEG-4 due to the 20 channel capability. We will be going to MPEG-4 in the future ,This is more cost effective to us.


Why wouldn't they start off with mpeg4 - because then they couldn't claim 20 million receivers and 2 million potential viewers to their advertisers.


We have a conservative estimate of 2 million viewers when we begin broadcasting; our advertising time has been priced at a competitive. Contact Rebecka Green for pricing.
 

Platinum Member
Username: Plymouth

Canada

Post Number: 13662
Registered: Jan-08
News Release: 4/12/2010

Our most recent tests ran into a few problems that have now been corrected. Leon was the tester for a three channel network placed in his home. He was given the cowboy channel, The Fight channel, and the Kids channel. After four days we swapped out the Fight Channel for World War TV. At Leon's request we have made changes to the software to insert a popup graphic at the bottom of the screen to display the next film coming up, this feature is optional and will be displayed 30 seconds before the end of a previous film, just before a commercial break. (This process is used by other networks)

We have gone over our programming line up to make the best use of a prime time that spans across multiple time zones. Some programming may be repeated during the day to allow everyone to have access to the film.
 

Platinum Member
Username: Plymouth

Canada

Post Number: 13811
Registered: Jan-08
News Release: 4/27/2010

The Free Fight Channel is sponsoring an Amateur Mixed Martial Arts event "Havoc on the Hill" at the Waverly Sanitarium May 16th from 5pm to 8pm. You may purchase tickets in advance at WaverlyEntertainment.com. Cost is $30 per person; your tickets may be upgraded to front row seats at a cost of $45 per person on the day of the show. This is an outdoor event but seating is limited. This event will be broadcast over satellite live to members of the armed forces in Europe and the Middle East courtesy of Center-Net. (Satellite and transponder will be made available when we receive it)
The Address is 4400 Paralee Lane in Louisville, Ky.
Military, Police and Fire Department personnel may purchase tickets at half price at the National Guard Armory on Crittenden Drive.
 

Platinum Member
Username: Plymouth

Canada

Post Number: 13974
Registered: Jan-08
News Release: 5/11/2010

Freedbs is currently working on the Race channel. We are in talks with the Salem Speedway and U.S.60 raceway in HARDINSBURG, KENTUCKY. We are also working with Jack Bills on his films of Daytona Beach, Dayto Ohio, Salem In, Indianapolis speedways. These old videos of the some of the first speedways in the 40s,50s and 60s have never been made public. Charles Mattingly with the Fight Channel has studios and green rooms set up for editing and for making movies. He has been making Video tapes of MMA fights for a few years or more. He is now becoming a promoter for the MMA amatuer League.
 

Silver Member
Username: Chaff

Post Number: 353
Registered: Jan-10
Really?
 

Platinum Member
Username: Plymouth

Canada

Post Number: 14053
Registered: Jan-08
Really!
 

Platinum Member
Username: Nydas

Post Number: 18966
Registered: Jun-06
Absolutely.
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