I may incorrect, but I'm reading the channels that kbox has open on IKS seems to be much higher than anybody else out there. I keep hearing their PVR is great, their support is great, their video quality is great, they normally support standalone and IKS...etc
Maybe it's just me, but I can't fork over 180 dollars for something that's not even HD. I know that the HD FTA boxes cost twice the price, but if I'm able to get the 150 HD channels that DN is broadcasting, then I'd like to have HD FTA box as well.
The majority of people I talk to only want to buy their new FTA box if it's HD. I don't hear as much about HD boxes on forums for some reason....
But my question really is............... does Kbox plan on every releasing an HD box anytime soon?
Any hint on thief offical website? I see a lot of info on ftaconcept's board, but I'm guessing that's not kbox's official site?
The channel list I saw posted
105 USA 107 Comedy Central 110 Food Network 111 DIYN 112 HGTV 120 The History Channel 122 Sci-Fi Channel 124 Black Entertainment 129 Bravo 135 BBC 136 FX 138 Turner Network TV 139 TBS 140 ESPN 142 ESPNews 145 ESPN Alternate 146 ESPN 2 Alternate 147 ESPN Alternate 148 ESPN U 149 Fox Soccer Channel 150 The Speed Channel 153 The Outdoor Channel 162 Video Hits-One 168 Spike TV 170 Nickelodeon 171 Nickelodeon 172 The Disney Channel 173 The Disney Channel 175 Boomerang 176 Cartoon Network 178 NickToons 179 Discovery Kids 180 ABC Family 182 Discovery Channel 183 The Learning Channel 184 Animal Planet 186 National Geographic 191 G4 193 The Science Channel 194 Planet Green 195 Military Channel 200 CNN 202 Headline News 203 Bloomberg TV US 205 Fox News Channel 208 CNBC US 209 MSNBC 213 NASA 215 The Travel Channel 216 ION 239 WGN America 240 NPS 241 WXIA TV 11 (NBC) - not working (gone to n3) 242 KNTV TG 11 (NBC) - not working (gone to n3) 243 WGGL TV 45 (CBS) - not working (gone to n3) 244 KPIX TV 5 (CBS) - not working (gone to n3) 245 WSB TV 2 (ABC) - not working (gone to n3) 246 KGO TV 7 (ABC) - not working (gone to n3) 247 WAGA TV 5 (FOX) - not working (gone to n3) 248 KTVU TV 2 (FOX) - not working (gone to n3) 262 Angel One 300 HBO East 301 HBO 2 East 302 HBO Sig 303 HBO West 304 HBO 2 West 305 HBO Family 307 HBO COmedy 310 Cinemax East 311 Cinemax Wst 312 MoreMax 329 330 341 342 343 344 345 346 400 The Tennis Channel 401 The Golf Channel 487 Shorteez 492 Spice Xcess 495 penthouse 496 ten xtsy 498 Playboy Espanol 825 Azteca America 827 Univision East 828 Univision West 830 Telefutura East 831 Telefutura West 833 Galavision East 835 Telemundo East 836 Telemundo West 838 Mun TV 840 TV Espanol International 841 TV Columbia 843 Hispanic INFO 845 Discovery Espanol 846 V-Me 850 History Espanol 852 DePel USA 853 DePel 854 ESPN Espanol 855 Fox Sports Espanol 859 CNN Espanol 865 Cine Latino 867 Bandamax 868 Telehit USA 870 HITS TV 872 MTV Espanol 874 SiTV
And the DN Internationals, NOTE some from 61.5 have moved permanently to 118:
here a list channels for 118, 574-NDTV [N2] 575-SAB TV [N2] 577-PFC INCTERNACIONAL 579-INTER + [UKRAINE] 588-BLUE MUSIC CHANNEL 589-ANTENNA GOLD 598-RTPI [BRASILERO] 599-SIC NOTICIAS 603-ERT WORLD 605-ANTENNA SATELLITE 622-ALPHA PUNJABI 659-DUBAI SPORTS 663-ARY THE MUZIK 674-INDUS MUSIC 676-JIANGSU INTERNATION 677-DRAGON TV 678-INDUS VISION 679-PHOENIX INFONEWS 680-PHOENIX TV 681-CENTRAL CHINA TV 682-ETTV DRAMA 683-ET GLOBAL 684-ET NEWS 685-ET CHINA 686-BEIJING TV 687-YOYO TV 688-JET TV [TAIWAN] 689-TAIWAN TV 690-CHINA TV [TAIWAN] 691-CHINESE TV SYSTEM [TAIWAN] 692-SKY LINK TV 2 693-SKY LINK TV 694-CHINA CENTRAL TV 9 695-CHINA CENTRAL TV CE 696-CHINA CENTRAL TV 6 697-CHINA CENTRAL TV 3 698-ASIA TV LTD 699-CHINA CENTRAL TV 11 700-GUANDONG TV 701-FUJIAN TV 706-CHINA YELLOW RIVER 707-PACVIA TV 708-HUMAN SAT TV 709-SANLIH ENTERAINMENT 710-I-CABLE TV [HONG KONG] 713-VIVA TV PHILIPPINES 714-NBN-4 715-RADIO PHILLIPPINES N 716-STAR PLUS 717-GMA PINOY TV 718-STAR ONE 719-STAR CHINESE CHANNEL 720-GMA LIFE TV 721-STAR CHINESE MOVIES 727-VIDEO ITALIA 728-RAI ITALIA 2 729-CHANNELS V [TAIWAN] 730-LOANARDO WORLD TV 733-POLSAT 2 734-TVN 24 736-ITVN 737-KINO POLSKA 738-RUSSIAN TV 740-HTB AMERICA 741-CENTER TV 744-PYV [GLOBAL] 745-GEO TV [URDU] 746-ARY DIGITAL USA [URDU] 747-ARY ONE WORLD [URDU] 749-RADIO KINO POLSKA 753-XIAMEN TV 754-ZHEJIANG TV 758-ART AMERICA 759-ART MOVIES 760-LBC AMERICA 761-AL JAZEERA SATELLITE 762-EGYPTIAN SATELLITE 763-NILE [EGYPT] 764-FUTURE TV INTERNATION 765-EMIRATES DUBAI TV 766-MIDDLE-EAST BROADCAST 768-ABU DHABI TV 769-DREAMS TV [EGYPT] 770-NATIONAL BROADCASTING 772-AL ARABIYA TV 774- NEW TV [LEBANON] 784-EURONEWS ENGLISH 787-ZEE TV 788-TV ASIA 789-SONY ENTERTAINMENT 790-ZEE CINEMA 791-BOLLYWOOD 4U 793-SET MAX 794-AAJTAK 795-SUN TV [TAMIL] 796-KONDATTAM TV [TAMIL] 797-SAHARA ONE 798-SAHARA SAMAY RASHTR 804-NTV BANGLA 805-RTV [BANGLEDESH] 806-CHANNEL I [BANGLA] 808-B4U MUSIC 809-JUS 812-MUSIC HITS ONE 813-HEADLINES TODAY FRO 814-TV GOLBO INTERNACIO 815-RECORD INTERNACIONA 816-RTP INTERNACIONAL 817-SPT TV 818-ANT BANGLA 900-EURONEWS [ENGLISH] 901-EURONEWS [ENGLISH] 902-GEO NEWS CHANNEL [URDU] 903-AAG TV [URDU] 918-THUAN VIET [VIETNAM]
Here a list for 61.5
577-PFC INCTERNACIONAL 588-BLUE MUSIC CHANNEL 589-ANTENNA GOLD 596-TV GLOBO INTERNACIO 597-RECORD INTERNACIONA 599-SIC NOTICIAS 603-ERT WORLD 605-ANTENNA SATELLITE 659-DUBAI SPORTS 716-STAR PLUS 718-STAR ONE 769-DREAMS TV [EGYPT]
james www.kboxteam.com is the official site for kbox, yes u are right kbox is rocking, but their is reason behind it, good support, knowledge about iks , how it works,usb pvr, good picture , effective cost.. because we are testing it for 1 yr now and it took them a while to make iks stable, if u look in past yes they had ups and down, kbox team upgraded k1hero ( to k1plus) on their cost, (one way shipping was paid), they made their investment secure enough so that no one (koolsat) or other;s make clone, now yes sales are rocking, well the one store that i like best is transat electronic, guys who are working their are awesome and no wonder their sales are rocking, but again if u look in past transat electronics in particular stop selling the nfusion box in order to create market for k1plus, (again that time no one was talking about k1plus)... so now with ur question about hd, yes they will think about it with the huge money they are making and to compete in fta, right now they are making existing investment to be # 1, u can definately send an email to kboxteam.com and u will get the answer about hd , so u can the real answer (as far as i know , no news about hd), but u can definately send them email, (may be something changed ) etc...
offcourse james. www.dssrookie.com (word of advise u can't talk about bell ,bev or what ever u nick u wanna call it).. www.ftabins.net also have good support forum but official site is dssrookie.com
Quick questions, is kbox considered IKS or ICS, because I'm reading that it's really more of a ICS than IKS and that it will probably never get PPV or PPV events with the IKS./ICS option. Just wanted to get feedback
Sada, I keep hearing people call kbox's system IKS and not ICS, which I saw this post on the board you linked that had information about IKS versus ICS.
Copy and paste below:
K S and I C S are different forms with the same result.
They both use internet connections to share "keys", but these are not the keys that "autoroll", they are called Control Word "keys" or CWs, each channel on each provider has its own CW that is valid for approx. 5 minutes, this CW is an 8 byte number, this 8 byte number is used to unscramble the digital Video/audio packets for the 1 channel, so every time you change channels you need the Decrypted CW for that channel, and this is what I K S/I C S provides your receiver via the internet connection.
The way a standalone bin works is that when you select a channel to view, the bin sends the Encrypted CW packet, found in "the stream" on that channel, to the "softcam" in the bin, the softcam Decrypts the CW packet and uses the Decrypted CW to unscramble the Video/audio for that channel. Softcam = a software duplicate of a DN smartcard, an N2 duplicate card at this time, because no one has been able to "open" an N3 card to get the information inside to make a software duplicate of it to use in a bin file. This is why there is no "N3 fix" bin.
With I C S the receiver is connected directly to the shared N3 card, there is an interface that allows more than 1 receiver to connect to the one card, each receiver gets the Encrypted CW packet from "the stream" for the selected channel, it sends it to the shared card via the internet, then gets back the Decrypted CW via the internet to use to unscramble that channels Video/audio, so the shared card replaces the softcam in the bin file. I C S groups must be small and VERY private, because each user has direct access to the card, any of them can get the cards CAM ID, this ID leads directly back to the subbed account holders name and address, so DN would shut this account off and prosecute the account holder if possible, these groups would usually only be 10 to 20 users.
I K S doesn't give users direct card access, they are connecting to a server that has all the channels listed by ID, with each channel ID is the latest decrypted CW for that channel, so the card is not being shared directly, the Decrypted CWs are being shared. The receiver still sends the Encrypted CW packet via the internet to the server, the server uses that packet to ID the channel, and sends back the Decrypted CW for that channel, the card is not involved in any of this. If the Encrypted packet has not been "seen" by the server before, so its a new CW, then the server will send that encrypted packet to another location, the card server, where it will be Decrypted by the Subbed N3 card then sent back to the User server to be saved and sent out to any user watching that channel. I K S setups have no limit on users, just the server limits, but more servers can be added to increase port capacity.
As said above none of this is new, card sharing has been going on since the first smart cards were used in Europe. I K S is newer since it is only used if a large sharing group is wanted, the extra cost of servers just doesn't make sense with smaller groups. nFusion used I K S because FTA ECMs were occurring more and more often, by switching from standalone bins to an I K S setup they could use an N2 card(hacked) to avoid the "cardless" ECMs that were effecting standalone bins, it was a good selling point for their models.
Any Subbed card based setup, I C S or I K S would, of course, only be able to provide Decrypted CWs for those channels that are paid for on that subscription, which is why PPVs and PPV adult channels are not available, some I C S groups do order PPV movies or Adult channels on a preset schedule, so users can record it for future viewing, everyone pays in these groups so that is doable, once every one agrees on the cost, with I K S the cost of PPV/adult channels would fall to the I KS provider, because there is no extra way to get money from the users, the cost of the monthly subscription would come from current sales, so not sure if doing once or twice a week PPV nights would be cost effective for them, but it would be doable, problem in that would be DN could get a limited idea of which sub accounts might be being used for the I K S, and each week of ordering PPVs on specific days would narrow down the I K S sub account until there were only a few targets left, this is the problem with public I K S setups, DN has full access to all info that is public, like PPV schedules, lol.
Yes any internet use can be traced back to you, but this includes downloading bin files, the risk is always all yours, always has been. An IP address is forever, doesn't matter if you are connected 24/7 or for 10 seconds, the IP address is logged and saved for as long as the owner of the server wants it. You could get a legal letter 3 years from now about a file you downloaded today, or 6 months ago, lol.
james i remember this correctly from official people from kbox, all internationals are up via iks and then they told us that adult chanenls are up via ics, so definatley they are using both system..