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Username: Ez2ctv

Post Number: 117
Registered: Dec-07
Rumors are that CW will have a solution for N3 that will require additional hardware similar to a "dongle" BUT (and this is the key) DOES NOT require internet connection.

Google TWIN protocol currently used in Europe it is guessed as this is what CW is refering to as a NON IKS solution.
 

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Username: Bazuka2020

Post Number: 790
Registered: Oct-05
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Originally Posted by cripet View Post
We have a new feature, twin protocol, for the 3020IR, but what is it for? Anyone can help? Thanks
hi my friend
twin protocol is for GBOX AND card shairing.

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Username: Saqeeb9000

Post Number: 5519
Registered: Oct-07
tony that will be totally amazing,
if its true,
but if its dongle, i will think it will req internet connection,
cnx dongle are also available now..
 

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Username: Ez2ctv

Post Number: 118
Registered: Dec-07
Satellite Key Sharing (SKS)

speculation is that in addition to the "Dongle" you will also need to have a additional dish/lnb pointing at a certain satellite to obtain the key updates.

IKS without the internet Thus SKS
 

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Username: Bazuka2020

Post Number: 793
Registered: Oct-05
Thats very interesting. lets have some more input
 

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Username: Shredd3r

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Post Number: 40
Registered: Mar-09
If CW beats VeiwSat to the fta solution, then CW will be the #1 receiver in the fta industry. Making me happy.
 

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Username: Jayson

Post Number: 339
Registered: Aug-06
I don't like how that sounds...it means more hardware = much more money to spend
 

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Username: Shredd3r

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Post Number: 41
Registered: Mar-09
Ya it might be more hardware but after this N3 fix there probably wont be another one for years.
 

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Username: Waqarkhan1971

Post Number: 67
Registered: Mar-09
what else we want ???????????
so my captive works also will work then
 

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Username: Satgrl

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Post Number: 1817
Registered: Oct-07
what if all the receivers only start working with internet connection first sonicview now nfusion..hmm it would be pretty interesting
 

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Username: Nydas

Post Number: 15401
Registered: Jun-06
Good progress.
Good info, tony pandy.
 

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Username: Saqeeb9000

Post Number: 5547
Registered: Oct-07
sat grl ur post is confusing
 

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Username: Satgrl

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Post Number: 1821
Registered: Oct-07
HAHA sada i mean like what if all receivers require the internet connection thingy:-))...lol i meant first it was sonicview ihub thingy now its captive works haha i messed up
 

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Username: Saqeeb9000

Post Number: 5548
Registered: Oct-07
ok
sattelite key sharing is totally new to me...
 

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Username: Search

Post Number: 8
Registered: Mar-09
I heard that also about CW. Also heard that this will be exclusive to the CW 600P.
 

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Username: Hannity

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Registered: May-09
tony pandy
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Username: Ez2ctv

Post Number: 118
Registered: Dec-07
Posted on Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 03:54 pm:

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Satellite Key Sharing (SKS)

speculation is that in addition to the "Dongle" you will also need to have a additional dish/lnb pointing at a certain satellite to obtain the key updates.

IKS without the internet Thus SKS ................................................................................ ................................................................................ .........Tony, that actually sounds very believable!!! FANTASTIC idea, because the internet connection thing is strictly for losers. A separate dish to constantly update keys, how will they stop us? Sounds awesome!! I AM IN
 

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Username: Riconissan

Post Number: 1481
Registered: Feb-09
I agree. Nice weekend Tiger.
 

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Username: Saqeeb9000

Post Number: 5553
Registered: Oct-07
well this is definately "innovative" to me...

iks
eks
slinger
and
now sks..
where are u king,,,,,,,,,,,,,
they can't stop us now

 

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Username: Hannity

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Post Number: 35
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Thanks Rico, I never really recovered from round 1 weather. Not using it as a excuse or anything, just that I was prepared for US open conditions, and I never quite adjusted. You might have noticed that the top 10 only had one person that played in the bad weather, and that was yours truly.
 

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Username: Riconissan

Post Number: 1482
Registered: Feb-09
Hey make 3 putts and it would have gone another 18. You had to know Barnes would fall apart. And Mickleson the guy just can't finish. Anyway a cool $1/4 mil to come in what 6th?
 

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Username: Bernardmi

Post Number: 512
Registered: Dec-07
If they really mean a "dongle" then this is bad news because a "dongle" can cost anything from $100 to thousands !!!!!

Dongle is a key protection that you plug into a serial or parallel port. Like the ones used to run Autocad software. The software constantly check to see if the dongle is still plugged-in otherwise it stops working.

Dongles cannot be copied and can only be bought from a single source.

Get prepared to pay !
 

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Username: Riconissan

Post Number: 1483
Registered: Feb-09
And that "Source" sounds like it will be Charlie.
 

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Username: Riconissan

Post Number: 1484
Registered: Feb-09
TOL are you sure a dongle cannot be duplicated?
 

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Username: Bernardmi

Post Number: 514
Registered: Dec-07
Nope. Cannot be copied.

Autocad license costs $10,000 and it relies on a dongle. If you could copy the dongle, you would be a rich man !
 

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Username: Riconissan

Post Number: 1485
Registered: Feb-09
But there are Limited "older" versions of Autocad that are out there free. Didn't those hacked copies once use a key?
 

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Username: Jayson

Post Number: 340
Registered: Aug-06
TOL you will need the dongle, a new dish + LNB and if u don't have a CW you'll need one as well....so perhaps you'll have to spend something between $500 to $1000 to be up again???
 

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Username: Riconissan

Post Number: 1486
Registered: Feb-09
Jayson
You would think that every box manufacturer will have this option eventually.
 

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Username: Jayson

Post Number: 341
Registered: Aug-06
of course...I did think of that too Rico...my point an only my opinion is that would end up being costly taking into account that somebody would have to pay for the new sat......
 

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Username: Chumley

Post Number: 372
Registered: Dec-08
Rico = Imbecile
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Username: Riconissan

Post Number: 1487
Registered: Feb-09
Chumley's Father

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Username: Nydas

Post Number: 15402
Registered: Jun-06
SonySat has announced a service similar to Nfusion.
Very soon all manufacturers will be turning to IKS and/or dongle and/or SKS.
I can't keep pace with the terminology.
 

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Username: Jayson

Post Number: 342
Registered: Aug-06
yeap....and that would be scary cause we might think that they have no permanent solution for N3 so they are turning to card/key sharing as the long term fix.......whether it is by internet or sat or whatever...
 

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Username: Nydas

Post Number: 15403
Registered: Jun-06
It would be worth it if it means a service free of ECMs!
 

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Username: Shredd3r

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Registered: Mar-09
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Username: Ez2ctv

Post Number: 119
Registered: Dec-07
This is a picture of a Dongle being used in Europe.

It is not from CW and only to represent what is used for SKS in Europe.

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fact or fiction on what CW will do, time will only tell.
 

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Username: Hannity

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Post Number: 36
Registered: May-09
Speakin as a NON coder, this sounds like the perfect situation. Why would the computer be needed? Isn`t the computer with IKS only needed as a way to deliver the keys to the dongle/whatever? If you are delivering the keys to the dongle/whatever, by way of the extra satellite dish, then no need for computer, in my mind? However if a computer was needed you could use a junker just for that?

My question is this......If we are getting the keys delivered via satellite, what satellite are we using? Is somebody renting a spot on a private satellite? Or is CW having their own satellite launched from kakistan(sp), we could all chip in... lol

But seriously, what satellite is available to us for SKS?
 

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Username: Riconissan

Post Number: 1491
Registered: Feb-09
Like TOL says above. The source of the key may come at a price. Buy the dongle for a few hundred dollars. Charlie sends the keys. And also periodic ECM's.?
 

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Username: Frobi

Post Number: 370
Registered: Aug-06
Ya, buy new dongle every year after ECM. Indirect subscription.
 

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Username: Ez2ctv

Post Number: 120
Registered: Dec-07
My question is this......If we are getting the keys delivered via satellite, what satellite are we using? Is somebody renting a spot on a private satellite? Or is CW having their own satellite launched from kakistan(sp), we could all chip in... lol

But seriously, what satellite is available to us for SKS?


that is the $ 10,000.00 question

I question IF CW has to uplink the "FIX" (key, control words, card etc.) WHO (what company) will lease them the Satellite ????? and will the Satellite be viewable in all of North America ?

To many questions to be answered and again CW & SKS is only a RUMOR at this point. Great concept SKS and IF (IF is the BIG word) it works, supported and cost is minimal then it is a IKS killer.
 

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Username: Hannity

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Post Number: 37
Registered: May-09
I read that SKS was already in Europe, so is it only a rumor?
 

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Username: Jayson

Post Number: 343
Registered: Aug-06
one ECM they could use is hire north korea to fire a missile and destroy the sat that is providing the keys ....Rush your question about not needing the computer is an interesting one...but remember that sat communications are affected by weather so there is another catch for SKS...although if the weather is affecting communication, then you will not have good signal after all...
 

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Username: Getmo96

Post Number: 132
Registered: Jul-08
Does the dongle run a a DOS program?
 

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Username: Riconissan

Post Number: 1520
Registered: Feb-09
No. ROM Basic Like the commodore 64
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