Dish align question

 

Bronze Member
Username: Deptrai_cachon

Post Number: 78
Registered: Jan-08
hi guys i have a dish currently pointing to 119w . if i want to add another lnb for 110w , my question is do i put them on the right or left or the current lnb (assumming i'm look in the front of the dish.

do I have to adjust the dish or just the lnb for 110w ..??

please help !! thanks
 

Bronze Member
Username: Deptrai_cachon

Post Number: 79
Registered: Jan-08
can anyone help please
 

Silver Member
Username: Plymouth

Quebec city, Quebec Canada

Post Number: 943
Registered: Jan-08
Ken you put to right when you are in front of the dish
 

Silver Member
Username: Madflea168

Post Number: 348
Registered: Jan-08
check with dishpointer.com for alignment, than bring tv/box for easier fine tune.
 

Gold Member
Username: Tapeman

New York City in-HD, NY

Post Number: 2601
Registered: Oct-06
No plymouth

If already pointed to 119
Facing front of dish
Put 110 on left of 119
facing front 110 on left 119 on right

You must skew dish to get both sats
Looking at back of dish
Unskrew for skew
East cost rotate clockwise
West cost rotate counter clockwise
Skew dish plate always looking at back of dish
http://satcalculator.freehostia.com
 

Bronze Member
Username: Deptrai_cachon

Post Number: 80
Registered: Jan-08
king tapeman , so i put the lnb for 110 on the left right ..?

what's skew dish ??

do i have to move the dish ??
 

Gold Member
Username: Kirankumar

NO Bashing

Post Number: 2185
Registered: Oct-07
let me make it very simple for you guys,
if you are standing BEHIND the dish 119 goes on the LEFT
 

Gold Member
Username: Tapeman

New York City in-HD, NY

Post Number: 2602
Registered: Oct-06
Yes
110 on left
119 on right

There are three positions
- Azmith: Side to side angle
- Elevation: Up and down angle position
- Skew: actual dish rotation when multiple sat applies

Use this link for exact calculation:
http://satcalculator.freehostia.com
 

Bronze Member
Username: Deptrai_cachon

Post Number: 81
Registered: Jan-08
ok ... African ..now i'm confuse....if i'm standing in front looking at the dish facing with me .. current 119

where do i put it left of 119 or right ?
 

Silver Member
Username: Plymouth

Quebec city, Quebec Canada

Post Number: 944
Registered: Jan-08
Sorry Ken, KING has the good answer.
African too.

!"/%%$?% With my motor,i dont have this problem
 

Bronze Member
Username: Deptrai_cachon

Post Number: 82
Registered: Jan-08
king , so i have to mess around with the dish ?

man i'm afraid to move that dish .. i don't want to lose the 119 signal ...(someone helped me get that signal..

can't I just move the 110lnb until i get it ..? b/c the dish is already at 119
 

Gold Member
Username: Tapeman

New York City in-HD, NY

Post Number: 2604
Registered: Oct-06
African is right but I agree is confusing

But let me make it clear to everyone
Yo wanna teach a newbie yo must teach'm correct

Follow my rule of thumb:
Rule#1
- When yo add new LNBs yo add from front of dish not from the back
- When yo skew dish yo skew from back not from front

Therefore when yo advice someone to add LNBs yo must tell him where to add in front of dish and when yo tell him to skew yo skew dish plate from back

Rule#2
High order Sat# always on right (HOS)
Low order Sat# always on left (LOS)
i.e. ( L )110 and 119 ( R )
If yo got a bounch of sats: 105/110/118/119/129
Looking in front of dish
from left to right:
105/110/118/119/129 (LOS on left HOS on right)

Stick to King's rule of thumb and yo won't confuse no one

Is like if I ask yo where is your left ear?
If yo use right hand to point to left ear is like getting right answer with wrong hand

Please make sure yo follow my standard procedure
 

Bronze Member
Username: Deptrai_cachon

Post Number: 83
Registered: Jan-08
this is my current dish pointing at 119w

ok , king or african ..can u look at the pic and tell me where to put the lnb for 110W please

(it's now screwed and pointing at 119 Upload
 

Gold Member
Username: Tapeman

New York City in-HD, NY

Post Number: 2605
Registered: Oct-06
If afraid to move anything
Take a sharpie marker
draw a straight line for part yo are moving
Yo can always put back again

Look Ken
There is nothing I can't handle when it gets to pointing dish I'll help yo but draw a marker line so if yo make a mistake yo can put it back

Yes yo'll need to tweak few things to get 2 sats
 

Bronze Member
Username: Deptrai_cachon

Post Number: 84
Registered: Jan-08
how much skew do i have to do ?

how far

ok thanks king .. let me try then i'll let u know

thanks
 

Gold Member
Username: Tapeman

New York City in-HD, NY

Post Number: 2606
Registered: Oct-06
from your photo
110 will be (L)

Can yo place LNB and move LNB itself instead of dish? Yes but a lot of trial and error

- First if on East cost yo must have 110 lower than 119
- If on east cost and place 110 without lowering yo won't pickup 110

-If on west cost yo must slightly raise 110 above 119

- If midwest (I'll say about even hight)


Also make sure yo use a sat finder or at least turn beep option ON receiver if got one
Avoid using DISEqC switch until yo get sat 110 yo can use a coax coupler until yo lock and scan sat 110
 

Bronze Member
Username: Kayoss

Post Number: 19
Registered: Feb-08
So would yo put the sharpie marker line on the right or the left? This is like "pin the lnb on the donkie". Yo cant get it right even without the blindfold! The situation is hopeless but not too serious!
 

Gold Member
Username: Tapeman

New York City in-HD, NY

Post Number: 2609
Registered: Oct-06
"Yo cant get it right even without the blindfold"
Oh yeah...is that right?
If I say yo could get it must be cuz I know yo can without moving the dish Kayoss
It's a reflection angle
Basic elementry physics

I told him how to find the angle without moving the dish it's up to the user to choose the technique from both options
 

Bronze Member
Username: Deptrai_cachon

Post Number: 85
Registered: Jan-08
rehi king.. ok .. i'll try and keep you post ..it's too cold over here ...can't do anything now .. thanks again king
 

Bronze Member
Username: Tasmanian_satellite

Post Number: 37
Registered: Jun-07
what does 119 have to offer than 110..thanks
 

Silver Member
Username: Dimwitt

Post Number: 497
Registered: Aug-06
http://ekb.dbstalk.com/110list.htm


http://ekb.dbstalk.com/119list.htm
 

Gold Member
Username: Kirankumar

NO Bashing

Post Number: 2195
Registered: Oct-07
Ken,
please go to www.dishpointer.com
and enter your address and 119
it will give you exact direction from your house to pint to
at the bottom it will give you exact skew and elevation,no guesswork involved
and if you are standing in front of the dish 119 goes to your right
 

Platinum Member
Username: Lklives

Post Number: 14738
Registered: Jan-06
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Gold Member
Username: Kirankumar

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Post Number: 2198
Registered: Oct-07
LK,
very good picture,
i have a question for you
if someone has a small single lnb dish with NO skew adjustment is it possible to get 91 and 82 ? right now getting 91 or adjust dish and get 82
thanks
 

Platinum Member
Username: Lklives

Post Number: 14740
Registered: Jan-06
sure is possible...same way as above...Poormans dish..just strap on another LNB...the 82-91 aligns just like the 110-119
 

Gold Member
Username: Kirankumar

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Post Number: 2199
Registered: Oct-07
ok,
but should it be strapped at a different height to compensate for the skew,is that right
 

Silver Member
Username: Drmunna

Post Number: 313
Registered: Oct-07
SUCH A SIMPLE aNSWER GOT MESSED UP. thks LK i was trying to find poor man's Dish post for him

African I do have same setup for both bev's.
looking from front i got 82 on proper struture, on its right about inch down and front is 91 just hanging on single rubber strap,with good Q
 

Gold Member
Username: Kirankumar

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Post Number: 2202
Registered: Oct-07
thanks a lot that is what i needed
 

Platinum Member
Username: Lklives

Post Number: 14742
Registered: Jan-06
Poormans dish...DTV 18 inch round dish..

Home made 2 sat dish (using dtv dish & lnb)

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These FTA receivers are amazing lil toys. Using a dtv dish and an extra lnb can get you the DN 110 & 119, and/or 82-91 Bev sats (any sats 9 degrees apart) and consequently 800 FREE DN channels. I have done this myself and it's so easy, I can't believe they make dish's with skew adjustments. I literally use rubber bands or hair ties to strap an lnb to the existing lnb and get 2 birds very quickly. I will be attaching photos and it's just as easy as it looks. Standing behind your dtv dish thats already pointed at 101, simply turn it to the right a little and drop the elevation about 10%. This is where the 110 sat is. You can use your dtv receiver to find the 110 by going into dish pointing menu and selecting one of these transponders 8, 10 or 12. When you find the 110 you will hear the signal meter rise and you can then fine tune it. Attach an extra lnb to the right (facing the dish) by using rubber bands or hair ties or wire ties, about 2 1/2 " above the other existing lnb (see photo) Attach the cable from it to the dtv receiver and in dish pointing change the transponder to one of these 23, 25, 29 and you'll probably aready have some signal, slide it up or down, keeping it flush with the other. Once she's dialed in epoxy or super glue to the original lnb. This is soo easy!
When done you now have a single existing dtv dish that will pull many DN channels or all Bev channels, for your NEW FTA receiver!

Hint: I also use wire tie or string around the lnb horns to draw them together and focus on center=better quality.


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Platinum Member
Username: Lklives

Post Number: 14743
Registered: Jan-06
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Bronze Member
Username: Pulpfiktion

Post Number: 17
Registered: Mar-08
When you face the Dish and the backs of the LNBs are seen by you, the lowest longitude value is on the left and the highest is on the right.
LEFT TO RIGHT - LOW TO HIGH - AS YOU LOOK AT THE DISH'S REFLECTIVE SURFACE.
 

Gold Member
Username: Tapeman

New York City in-HD, NY

Post Number: 2610
Registered: Oct-06
If yo got one sat and want to get second
Yo can get without skew dish at all
But yo may have to raise or lower second LNB

Depending on where yo live
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Gold Member
Username: Kirankumar

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Post Number: 2203
Registered: Oct-07
great info King,
this is what i have been trying to experiment for a long time
will post results when done
thanks
 

Bronze Member
Username: Deptrai_cachon

Post Number: 88
Registered: Jan-08
thanks King .... you been a great help ... I now know what to do .. and will let you know when i get it ..

thanks ..
 

Silver Member
Username: Plymouth

Quebec city, Quebec Canada

Post Number: 963
Registered: Jan-08
The experience of a KING easy simple and cheap to make.
 

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Username: Postergirl1

Post Number: 46
Registered: Mar-08
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Bronze Member
Username: Tasmanian_satellite

Post Number: 38
Registered: Jun-07
how do you know if your on 110 or 119..is there a channel to see if you have the correct satellite.
 

Bronze Member
Username: Kayoss

Post Number: 20
Registered: Feb-08
Yo have to have yo house pointed in the right direction. If yo can see the satellites with yo naked eye, 119 will be the one on yo right. It is simple physics!
 

Gold Member
Username: Tapeman

New York City in-HD, NY

Post Number: 2611
Registered: Oct-06
"Yo have to have yo house pointed in the right direction"
Great question
Cuz his first sat is already pointed to exat satellite location
the second is relatively few inches away

But physics has simple laws
And I do understand it and apply it correctly
 

Bronze Member
Username: Deptrai_cachon

Post Number: 89
Registered: Jan-08
tasmanian , i think 119 has espn , espn2 and cnn and all that sport channels ,

110 has more PPV , big 10 network something like that ...
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