Solution for recover viewsat autoroll and freeze from Plymouth
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Silver Member Username: PlymouthQuebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 693 Registered: Jan-08 | Go to Code menu Nagra and on Dish 01 06 00 Dish 00 01 00 dish 01 01 00 Delete this 3 provider with F3 switch off 10 secs on back panel and load last bin turn autoroll on Thats erase bad data in the box ENJOY TV TESTED and work fine New issue for problem on Viewsat Thanks |
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Gold Member Username: NydasPost Number: 8898 Registered: Jun-06 | Good post, Plymouth. Congratulations. |
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Silver Member Username: PlymouthQuebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 695 Registered: Jan-08 | Thanks Nalin |
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Gold Member Username: KirankumarKenya Post Number: 2018 Registered: Oct-07 | Plymouth, how long has it lasted for? |
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Silver Member Username: PlymouthQuebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 696 Registered: Jan-08 | African i have problem since 2 months, i lost Dn each time keys change, since yesturday i test all who bust my box and no freeze and box is a little bit faster Not a joke Guys That work fine and autoroll recover the keys by itself |
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Silver Member Username: PlymouthQuebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 697 Registered: Jan-08 | That last the time of the bin |
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Gold Member Username: KirankumarKenya Post Number: 2019 Registered: Oct-07 | that is good news good job Plymouth |
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Silver Member Username: PlymouthQuebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 698 Registered: Jan-08 | Thanks African |
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Gold Member Username: Saqeeb9000Mughe dard rehta hai, ..., Mujhe bhook ... Post Number: 2735 Registered: Oct-07 | good job plymouth... keep up the good work..  |
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Platinum Member Username: LklivesPost Number: 14333 Registered: Jan-06 | For 2 months the VS has been working fine with AR and latest bins... |
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Gold Member Username: NydasPost Number: 8902 Registered: Jun-06 | And this time round it has not and Plymouth has the solution. Accept defeat from an amateur. |
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Silver Member Username: PlymouthQuebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 699 Registered: Jan-08 | Thanks Sada The autoroll may take 5 minutes to recover keys on 200 (cnn) |
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Silver Member Username: PlymouthQuebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 701 Registered: Jan-08 | LK I think the virus come from bad bin that why not all box have this problem, but since 2 months agree with me we see bizarre problem on some viewsat box |
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Silver Member Username: PlymouthQuebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 702 Registered: Jan-08 | That seems to be a problem with box have Dn and Bev |
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Gold Member Username: NydasPost Number: 8906 Registered: Jun-06 | plymouth: What do we say in French? |
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Silver Member Username: PlymouthQuebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 703 Registered: Jan-08 | Touche is touche in french |
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Platinum Member Username: LklivesPost Number: 14336 Registered: Jan-06 | Plymouth ....There is no virus...and Viewsats and AR have been working perfect for the past few months...U had an isolated incident and corrupted receiver, which just needed to be flushed out.. nalin... grab all the friends U can get, U need em...to stay here...cause U have lost ALL credibility with all your wrongful bogus posts here...people no longer believe 1 word U say...they are NOT stupid as U may think.. |
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Gold Member Username: NydasPost Number: 8910 Registered: Jun-06 | That's exactly what I meant and you can say it!! |
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Platinum Member Username: LklivesPost Number: 14337 Registered: Jan-06 | IN English we call nalin...douche |
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Gold Member Username: NydasPost Number: 8913 Registered: Jun-06 | LK: Menopausal women like you need a douche. |
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Silver Member Username: PlymouthQuebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 705 Registered: Jan-08 | LK i'm programmer for automate, It's very easy for everyone with experience to corrupt this box This box and all use a Micro-controler use in the industry just the programme change. When i programme automate if not paid totally i insert a (virus)create by me, who bust the machine after 2 months (use in eeprom for shure no reset is made by hard reboot) Never forget this, what you see on display is not all the time what this is in realty. |
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Silver Member Username: PlymouthQuebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 706 Registered: Jan-08 | Guy please respect this post |
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Gold Member Username: NydasPost Number: 8917 Registered: Jun-06 | Plymouth: I absolutely respect your post and knowledge. Some other conceited persons may not. |
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Silver Member Username: PlymouthQuebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 707 Registered: Jan-08 | If you went we may created a new thread just for you guys  Joke Thanks |
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Silver Member Username: PlymouthQuebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 709 Registered: Jan-08 | Work fine again |
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Bronze Member Username: Jaz06Post Number: 88 Registered: Nov-06 | Sorry in advance, but can you tell me step by step how to do this, since I have also been having problems with my ultra. thanks. |
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Silver Member Username: PlymouthQuebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 710 Registered: Jan-08 | Read the first post and said me, what you dont understand All is there which viewsat you have? |
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Bronze Member Username: Jaz06Post Number: 89 Registered: Nov-06 | I have viewsat ultra. Where do I find code menu and not sure how to delete and what exactly to select to delete. |
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Bronze Member Username: Jaz06Post Number: 90 Registered: Nov-06 | Okay I looked again so far, found code menu, selected Nagra (where it says CAS) and found the dish numbers. but you said delete 3 I have 5 lines for 010100,4 lines for 000100, and 4 lines for 010600. Which ones do I delete?? |
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Gold Member Username: NydasPost Number: 8938 Registered: Jun-06 | I have 5 lines for 010100, - box 1 to delete 4 lines for 000100, box 2 to delete and 4 lines for 010600 - box 3 to delete |
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Silver Member Username: RekmanMntl-Quebec-... Post Number: 337 Registered: Jun-06 | Hi PLYMOUTH.... is The explanation at the beginning only for VIEWSAT?? can i do this on my Cools*t 5000?? |
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Silver Member Username: PlymouthQuebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 712 Registered: Jan-08 | Sorry i'm comeback guys Delete only on DN |
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Silver Member Username: PlymouthQuebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 713 Registered: Jan-08 | KMK maybe write all keys before, i dont know youre box |
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Silver Member Username: PlymouthQuebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 714 Registered: Jan-08 | Nalin on viewsat i deleted the provider complitly not just the line |
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Silver Member Username: PlymouthQuebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 715 Registered: Jan-08 | Nalin on viewsat i deleted the provider completly not just the line |
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Silver Member Username: PlymouthQuebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 717 Registered: Jan-08 | No freeze on Bev and Dn |
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Bronze Member Username: Jaz06Post Number: 91 Registered: Nov-06 | So what lines should I delete and how? |
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Silver Member Username: PlymouthQuebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 719 Registered: Jan-08 | Jaz dont delete lines, after select nagra, with left arrow, choose Dn 01 01 00 and 2 other, dont enter in keys change, in low you must see orange button F3 (delete provider) Delete 3 provider dish Do a hard reboot (10 secs off) load last bin Keep the autoroll on goto channel 200(cnn)on 110w autoroll take +-5 minutes The only freeze i see, is on remote and display and you do a hard reboot and it's ok |
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Bronze Member Username: Jaz06Post Number: 92 Registered: Nov-06 | okay, but does it matter what channel I put it on to autoroll, I only have set up to 61.5. |
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Gold Member Username: Way2smartWww.Desifta.com Post Number: 1377 Registered: Oct-06 | jaz its only the keys you delete thats it.....no need to worry about what channel....delete the keys and new keys will autoroll in . |
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Gold Member Username: TapemanNew York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 2561 Registered: Oct-06 | Plymouth is right Yo started few days ago asking basic questions I never doubted yo Plymouth and respected yo Even if yo were wrong We all make mistakes And when yo told me yo got 35 years of electronics It's when I knew we are both from same school And I think yo and I got many things in common Great job Plymouth I never thought of that I did try to turn off auto roll and auto TP It reseted my receiver to factory default over night It's when I realized it has some kind of a time delay function Besides the time delay on the PID frequency I also tried filling FF or 00 in each location I agree it's like a virus It's a time delay obstructive codes hidden within hashed keys like a virus designed against selective receivers like VU-sat products I was searching for those type of back engineering situations since last October Nobody here knew what the heck I was talking about There is also many multiple analog frequency shift on each channel channel by channel known as the PID I believe is what yo were searching for few days ago In the old days in 2007 When yo change one digit yo lose all reception Stay in touch pal We got a lot to discuss I finally found a true tester Feel free to ask me anything yo are missing I take any question very serious |
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Silver Member Username: PlymouthQuebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 721 Registered: Jan-08 | That work on all channel, the difference is the time |
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Bronze Member Username: Jaz06Post Number: 93 Registered: Nov-06 | okay I'm going to try it now, thanks. |
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Silver Member Username: PlymouthQuebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 723 Registered: Jan-08 | Thank Very much King, you respect all us, good or bad, i'm moved by this answer(i dont know if good word). Test since 2 months!! Ask to my wife? King and all, i appreciate your help and good exchange for this Hobby very captivating. |
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Silver Member Username: PlymouthQuebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 727 Registered: Jan-08 | King, i noticed with autoroll off after factory default and factory bin, the keys comeback with same info, that why, i presumed all data bad or good stay in box. This is what bring me to delete provider. And my box work fine again without freeze on picture. The only freeze is on remote and display. A hard boot recover it. Now what Dn and Bev axpect for next. I dont know? The nagra 3 come but not in service again because implant not finish. |
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Gold Member Username: TapemanNew York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 2562 Registered: Oct-06 | Deleting the provider is a temporary condition When they roll new keys yo'll get a black screen And your receiver won't update auto roll Yo'll have to load new bin wait for auto roll The worst thing I noticed New rolled keys are actually obstructive opcodes causing selective receivers to act strange part of Nagra's back engineering Second worst thing I noticed operated service channels change freuency cooardinates thru key update in what's known as PID this makes channels to drop out, freeze or even deleted I think the worst wave is yet to come against VS Very important what I gathered Old ECMs disabled old receiver bios can't boot up without j-tag But these VU-Sat they must have a mirror backup bios and can not be disabled don't require j-tag However I was surprised Nagra thru changing keys able to causes mouth function to VS I also want to tell yo Deleting provider keys still must be stored in some other register or some how still latched in memory perhaps enough to prevent mouth functions with just a simple loss of signal as they'll continue change keys Nagra3 What I noticed since last January 2007 They added a second satellite with 2 identical streams They later had one stream with N-1 and second N-2 Now it's N2 & N3 side by side I detected N3 test on selective test channels Later on satellite 77W I believe they are done with 77W I have been tracking their moves for over a year now Many don't make too much sense to me |
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Silver Member Username: PlymouthQuebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 732 Registered: Jan-08 | I agree with you King on several what you said. The base program is in microcotroller, but be change by the bin, like menu display, internal fonction and channel and sat info. in all time the operating System may be altered. The only think (i think) may not change is the tuner but freq may be assigned to different internal connection. My solution clear data not wanted, but doesn't replace the bin that i know and mention. For nagra3, what i think is(personnel): The n2 & n3 side by side is for the time of integrating n3 without destroy old box, provider need more band for HD and war of new channel. Note maybe i'm in error |
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Silver Member Username: PlymouthQuebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 733 Registered: Jan-08 | (King) I note too, on other sat like Galaxie 26, service channel (for news and direct tv)they frequently change freq and cut emetting. That why we need to test. |
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Gold Member Username: TapemanNew York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 2564 Registered: Oct-06 | Galaxy 26 Well yo are talking about feeds I know exactly what is that Don't waste your time I actually had to talk to many broadcasters to fully understand what's that all about in my last SATCON 2007 I also was able to get many feeds that blind scan can't pickup I can show yo how as I learned all first hand These are called feeds Feed is like an open satellite network link Meaning...for instance FOX News Is covering a wild fire in Californa non-stop Local Fox in each city/state pickup live broadcast Record and re-broadcast to smaller cities in all states or even internationally Or sometimes use it for live coverage It cost them about $2000 per month per feed To broadcasters is like a pocket change This is also how they destribute edited and un-edited special coverages Is like a quick video upload/download like internet This is why they are not always ON all the time Coverage is not always on Or just before Morning/after noon/evening news Some feeds are encrypted Many others are not encrypted As far as N3 I'm positive They are side by side seperated by few kHz apart 2 full streams Either coming from 2 seperate Sats or 2 Tps next to each other I'm almost certain 2 seperate Sats based on many data/freq I collected last year Was supported by lyngsat Later was changed on lyngsat I spent several weeks I will never spend time on something I would imagine fruitless I'm so certain that I would even bet my house For one reason I know how to scan them Here is a proof timed and dated: https://www.ecoustics.com/electronics/forum/home-video/341734.html Few weeks after my post Lyngsat confirmed my tests Much later they combined 2 sats information on one as yo find today on lyngsat If yo are interested I'll show yo how to test it It's old news now But las year I had no clue what was that all about but to conclude some kind of ECM |
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Silver Member Username: PlymouthQuebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 735 Registered: Jan-08 | King Sorry, yesturday when i wrote, we lost electric power in the tempest, power comeback only this morning,that why i answers now. I went to thanks you for this good info on FTA, would be assured, if i need info, i will ask. Now concerning N3 Viewsat is ready for 2 freqs side by side. The VS PRO had been conceived for that with 2 tuners and converted in recorder by USB port, but it's only program inside who change. Dont worried with this. yes, you can show me how test. |
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Silver Member Username: Guanajuatos_bestPost Number: 200 Registered: Jul-07 | do you think this would help? my problem is that my locals are on echo 119. and when i tune to the channl there is picture for about 10 seconds then the screen goes black and it says in the screen that that channel is on echo 110. that also happens with radio channels (sirius) vs. xtreme |
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Platinum Member Username: LklivesPost Number: 14429 Registered: Jan-06 | REBOOT the receiver...change the switch..recheck antenna settings.. |
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Gold Member Username: NydasPost Number: 8995 Registered: Jun-06 | LK: Plymouth is doing a fine job. You don't need to interfere. |
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Gold Member Username: TapemanNew York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 2571 Registered: Oct-06 | Plymouth I couldn't decrypt N3 This is awaiting for either card swap or equipement change Or perhaps DN waiting on new encryption programmers They announced a new summit on May 17th 2008 I don't know what the summit is all about I can only guess introduction of new products, new sevice or just an annual picnic I know that from watching channel 999 3 months ago I think yo are misunderstanding something about the 2 side by side streams Any tuner can get an average of 4000 to 5000 differnet frequency by manual entry or by preprogramming don't matter if one two or ten streams This is what I gathered so far 2 sources of suppling same idntical programs 2 different encyption systems Coming from 2 side by side satellites Too close to each other by few frequencies I don't know if both DN strams will always stay together or one will drop upon full service of the other. If money has a lot to do with it I will only guess second stream will eventually drop out after a successfl N3 service So many things don't make sense about DN I have a feeling they miscalculated entire situation On the other hand it can't be that hard to stop the coders if they change logic encryption system Or maybe last minute technical issues. We all know for sure BEV is going forward with N3 I just don't know what to conclude anymore |
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Silver Member Username: PlymouthQuebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 738 Registered: Jan-08 | THE ONLY PAISA LEFT yes, you may try it, you dont lost any info on sat. |
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Silver Member Username: PlymouthQuebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 749 Registered: Jan-08 | King Sorry for late reply, i lost phone line and DSL from yesturday afernoon to this morning. For side to side streams only the time us will say it. |
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Silver Member Username: JaysonPost Number: 209 Registered: Aug-06 | yeah......you congratulate him but you called him an amateur.......I hadn't have no freezing on my VS......I think those of you who do have problems are getting bad files from bad websites.....download from ftaforall.net or other good or official website.....I have solved any issues lately just by hard reboot or in the worst case scenario loading factory bin.......I say you are getting bad files which are getting you freezing issues.... |
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Silver Member Username: PlymouthQuebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 753 Registered: Jan-08 | Jayson we know all that. Fta florall take the first bin out like other. |
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Silver Member Username: PlymouthQuebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 785 Registered: Jan-08 | update: work fine, no freeze on remote and display since 1 days No picture freeze since i started this thread. Autoroll work fine |
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