One mans opinion

 

Silver Member
Username: Psychmonster

Chi town, Il USA

Post Number: 156
Registered: Jul-06
seems like DN and Bev are resorting to the pain in the a-ss but not serious morphs and may implement them every 2 weeks or so to try and burn our coders out...thats all they have..the more peps that learn basic codes will thwart these conglomerates for years to come....learn ,my friends and use the unasked signals from sats that are in your house and radiating through your food and children...steal them...I did not ask DN to radiate me...so F__K em....I will use those unasked for and not paid for radiation from sats of Married with Children that rain down uopn my kitchen and covert it to my own use...those b_astards never showed a warrant to be busting into my domicile with thier unasked for radiation...so I will use it for my own entertianment
 

Gold Member
Username: Tapeman

New York City in-HD, NY

Post Number: 1911
Registered: Oct-06
I say everyday
Maybe even several times a day
 

Bronze Member
Username: Razzorwyre

Post Number: 17
Registered: Dec-07
I would love to learn the basic coding. Not sure where to start tho.
 

Silver Member
Username: Psychmonster

Chi town, Il USA

Post Number: 158
Registered: Jul-06
its alot more invoveled then one might think...a degree in coding is tough...but their are shortcuts...basic knowlege of simple DN applications will give you a big head start, and JVH has laid the foundation that even rudimentery novices can hit and miss and finally find the correct formula for at least the 1 mg simple 2500-2700 conversion formulas...its basically a couple tweaks and then run it before publishing it....its a hit or miss but u will find it easy after 3-4 tries...now chancey and others are running with the ORIGINAL jvh code...and tweaking becomes fairly easy once the basic code is established...DN is just playing with variations of the same code..I thank u for all your dedication JVH , Chancey,and others... I am almost ready to contribute...just need to do some dry runs, but at least I am learning and will be the next generation of coders...at least for the 2500-2700 conversions...gotta start small...then Nyda can critique my work instead of taking credit for finding the first bin untested that she he it sends out to the poor suckers that load it and burn out thier machine...test before you crow!~!!but that was one mistake and we all burned u for that...I actually think you are an asset ri this site...and I think LK is top notch and Doreen might be coming around also...it is a new beginning...lets start this new year with good will and not good jabs
 

Silver Member
Username: Pulp_fiction

Post Number: 560
Registered: Nov-07
DN is just playing with variations of the same code..

Not even close... Whole new ball game ...

JVH and Chancey master of their games but this out of there reach.. they only edit bins to remove clone killer code.. they have nothing to do with any type mecm related coding..
 

Silver Member
Username: Psychmonster

Chi town, Il USA

Post Number: 159
Registered: Jul-06
the 225 bin works for conversions...genuine 2500a to 2700 works with this bin...expain why his bin works
 

Silver Member
Username: Pulp_fiction

Post Number: 563
Registered: Nov-07
the 225 bin works for conversions...genuine 2500a to 2700 works with this bin...expain why his bin works

it don't work !! and this is why...

over at *****.*** Viewsat does NOT have the map22 stuff.. all they bought was 3b/57
He even gave kudos to you guys here fro being the main group of people that all the fixes since have beenb copied from...
If you don't know him, he is one of the BEAST over at ****.*** I have seen, when he talks he knows his 'chit!!!



Dec 5 15:17:15 [nagra.ecm] Code
Dec 5 15:17:15 [nagra.ecm] 0000: 99 8a 9b b6 0d 88 a4 f7 b7 0d a6 02 b7 48 a6 02
Dec 5 15:17:15 [nagra.ecm] 0010: 8d 00 a8 22 a6 00 c7 0b 92 a6 0b c7 0b 93 a6 a2
Dec 5 15:17:15 [nagra.ecm] 0020: c7 0b 94 5f 4f ad 0b 5c a3 04 25 f9 84 b7 0d 86
Dec 5 15:17:15 [nagra.ecm] 0030: 98 87 89 90 ae 01 32 d8 0b 92 32 d7 0b 92 ad 48
Dec 5 15:17:15 [nagra.ecm] 0040: 4f b7 48 a6 07 cd 38 40 90 5f 32 d6 0b 92 a4 1f
Dec 5 15:17:15 [nagra.ecm] 0050: b7 4a 90 5c 32 d6 0b 92 b7 49 a6 49 b7 16 3f 15
Dec 5 15:17:15 [nagra.ecm] 0060: 3a 15 3f 14 12 16 a6 22 cd 38 40 13 16 ad 19 ad
Dec 5 15:17:15 [nagra.ecm] 0070: 22 ad 04 85 b6 14 81 c6 0b 94 ab 08 c7 0b 94 c6
Dec 5 15:17:15 [nagra.ecm] 0080: 0b 93 a9 00 c7 0b 93 81 c6 0b 93 b7 44 c6 0b 94
Dec 5 15:17:15 [nagra.ecm] 0090: b7 45 81 3f 48 a6 0b cd 38 40 81 83 83 83 83 83
Dec 5 15:17:15 [nagra.ecm] 00a0: 83 83 83 83 83 83 83 83 83 83 83 83 83 83 83 83
Dec 5 15:17:15 [nagra.ecm] 00b0: 83 83 83 83 83 83 83 83 83 83 83 83 83 83 83 83
Dec 5 15:17:15 [nagra.ecm] 00c0: 83 83 83 83 83 83 83 83 83 83 83 83 83 83 83 83
Dec 5 15:17:15 [nagra.ecm] 00d0: 83 83 83 83 83 83 83 83 83 83 83 83 83 83 83 83
Dec 5 15:17:15 [nagra.ecm] 00e0: 83 83 83 83 83 83 83 83 83 83 83 83 83 83 83 83
Dec 5 15:17:15 [nagra.ecm] 00f0: 83 83 83 83 83 83 83 83






This is disassembled Bev Mecm 40 code:


00:0100: 99 sec
00:0101: 8A pushcc
00:0102: 9B sei
00:0103: B6 0D lda $0D
00:0105: 88 pusha
00:0106: A4 F7 and #$F7
00:0108: B7 0D sta $0D
00:010A: A6 02 lda #$02
00:010C: B7 48 sta $48
00:010E: A6 02 lda #$02
00:0110: 8D 00 A8 22 jsrp #$00, $A822
00:0114: A6 00 lda #$00
00:0116: C7 0B 92 sta $0B92
00:0119: A6 0B lda #$0B
00:011B: C7 0B 93 sta $0B93
00:011E: A6 A2 lda #$A2
00:0120: C7 0B 94 sta $0B94
00:0123: 5F clrx
00:0124: 4F clra
00:0125: AD 0B bsr $132
00:0127: 5C incx
00:0128: A3 04 cmpx #$04
00:012A: 25 F9 bcs $125
00:012C: 84 popa
00:012D: B7 0D sta $0D
00:012F: 86 popcc
00:0130: 98 clc
00:0131: 87 rtsp
00:0132: 89 pushx
00:0133: 90 AE 01 ldy #$01
00:0136: 32 D8 0B 92 eor [$0B92:$0B93:$0B94], Y
00:013A: 32 D7 0B 92 sta [$0B92:$0B93:$0B94], Y
00:013E: AD 48 bsr $188
00:0140: 4F clra
00:0141: B7 48 sta $48
00:0143: A6 07 lda #$07
00:0145: CD 38 40 jsr $3840
00:0148: 90 5F clry
00:014A: 32 D6 0B 92 lda [$0B92:$0B93:$0B94], Y
00:014E: A4 1F and #$1F
00:0150: B7 4A sta $4A
00:0152: 90 5C incy
00:0154: 32 D6 0B 92 lda [$0B92:$0B93:$0B94], Y
00:0158: B7 49 sta RC2
00:015A: A6 49 lda #$49
00:015C: B7 16 sta $16
00:015E: 3F 15 clr $15
00:0160: 3A 15 dec $15
00:0162: 3F 14 clr $14
00:0164: 12 16 bset1 $16
00:0166: A6 22 lda #$22
00:0168: CD 38 40 jsr $3840
00:016B: 13 16 bclr1 $16
00:016D: AD 19 bsr $188
00:016F: AD 22 bsr $193
00:0171: AD 04 bsr $177
00:0173: 85 popx
00:0174: B6 14 lda $14
00:0176: 81 rts
00:0177: C6 0B 94 lda $0B94
00:017A: AB 08 add #$08
00:017C: C7 0B 94 sta $0B94
00:017F: C6 0B 93 lda $0B93
00:0182: A9 00 adc #$00
00:0184: C7 0B 93 sta $0B93
00:0187: 81 rts
00:0188: C6 0B 93 lda $0B93
00:018B: B7 44 sta $44
00:018D: C6 0B 94 lda $0B94
00:0190: B7 45 sta $45
00:0192: 81 rts
00:0193: 3F 48 clr $48
00:0195: A6 0B lda #$0B
00:0197: CD 38 40 jsr $3840
00:019A: 81 rts
 

Silver Member
Username: Psychmonster

Chi town, Il USA

Post Number: 160
Registered: Jul-06
interesting...I have a lot to learn...thanx
 

Gold Member
Username: Nydas

Post Number: 5743
Registered: Jun-06
The disassembled pnwumonics - Where can I find the write up on the assembly code and which CPU is it?
i½-Pulp Fiction-i½
By looking at some of them, i can understand, e.g.
popx and pushx probably mean pop into or push register x and incy means Increment register y.
I need the register layout and the instruction set. Could you please point to where I can get this info?
 

Bronze Member
Username: Plks4432

Post Number: 15
Registered: Nov-07
So, let's start to learn Assembler!!
Why not?
There are bunch of tutorials in Internet.
But even after you got some knowledge and be able to run disassembler and get pnewmonic code, you'll definately need access to documentation where you could find out how they code and decode signal, which may be not so easy..
Anyways, why not try?
Minwhile, who can explain what ECM stands for?



 

Bronze Member
Username: Hi09

Post Number: 39
Registered: Aug-07
psychmonster - well said well said
 

Bronze Member
Username: Hi09

Post Number: 40
Registered: Aug-07
psychmonster - well said
 

Gold Member
Username: Tapeman

New York City in-HD, NY

Post Number: 1914
Registered: Oct-06
I looked at your subprogram post #563
I don't know what is your source or how sure to trust

I can tell yo this is not what Nagra charges Millions of dollars to lease their encryption protction

But if it will make yo happy this an 8 bit subprogram from an old 8 bit MP z80 or Intel 8085 was designed mid 1970(s)

If that is what yo want yo can learn assembly in 2 weeks
If this is indeed how to create a spoof program
 

Silver Member
Username: Pulp_fiction

Post Number: 572
Registered: Nov-07
But if it will make yo happy this an 8 bit subprogram from an old 8 bit MP z80 or Intel 8085 was designed mid 1970(s)

If that is what yo want yo can learn assembly in 2 weeks
If this is indeed how to create a spoof program



Yeah okay mister low level analog fluctuation signal (on secret tp's know only by you)

you wouldn't know what a snake was if i bit U on the nose...

It's just like what I said it was
a disassembled of the latest Bev Mecm
dealing with map22
 

Silver Member
Username: Pulp_fiction

Post Number: 578
Registered: Nov-07
shouldn't be that long now for dvbcard solution once again the GREAT coder No1 has a handle on it....


I think I got it:
Code:

input is D
exp = $4a
shift = $49
x = (1<<128) - D;
x = (x*x) % D;
y = x
for(i = 1; i < exp; i++) {
x = (x * y) % D;

B = (x << shift) % D


I've tried it on lots of inputs and it seems to work all the time.
Still need to find the cycle counts though.}
 

Gold Member
Username: Nydas

Post Number: 5752
Registered: Jun-06
King: The program is neither Z80 nor 8086 code. I would have recognised it as such. There is reference only to Registers A and X and Y.
It has to be another CPU.
If i½-Pulp Fiction-i½ can give me the pneumonics and Instructions set, fine, otherwise, I am just accepting it at face value based on what he says about it.
 

Silver Member
Username: Pulp_fiction

Post Number: 587
Registered: Nov-07
seacrh for st19
 

Gold Member
Username: Nydas

Post Number: 5753
Registered: Jun-06
Thanks. I will try. Right now I can't get into St19.com website.
 

Silver Member
Username: Pulp_fiction

Post Number: 588
Registered: Nov-07
not a web site

U asked for referenace on which opcodes


st19
 

Gold Member
Username: Nydas

Post Number: 5754
Registered: Jun-06
STMicroelectronics - Smartcard ICs - Smartcard ST19 Platform ICs
ST's ST19 platform of enhanced security, multi-application smartcard MCU's offers a wide range of devices for low-cost and high performance applications ...
www.st.com/stonline/products/families/smartcard/sc_sol_ics_st19.htm - 35k
The above is not responding.

BYTE.com
The new ST19 IC offers low-power logic for smartcards, plus mechanisms to ... This allows the ST19 to use a ready-made library of secure functions. ...
www.byte.com/art/9706/sec4/art4.htm - 34k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this

Byte.com is responding. I will go into it in detail for my own learning process.

Thanks for the info.
 

Bronze Member
Username: Perycles2005

Post Number: 42
Registered: Mar-05
Where can we find more info to learn...please share
 

Bronze Member
Username: Perycles2005

Post Number: 43
Registered: Mar-05
Thanks
 

Gold Member
Username: Tapeman

New York City in-HD, NY

Post Number: 1915
Registered: Oct-06
When I google
This is what I find for Nagra-2

http://www.qztvw.com/article/view.asp?id=29
 

Gold Member
Username: Tapeman

New York City in-HD, NY

Post Number: 1916
Registered: Oct-06
This is a site for testers
http://id-discussions.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=12
 

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Username: Gspot6977

Seattle, Wa Usa

Post Number: 16
Registered: Sep-06
And On the 8th day God said "Let there be free TV"
 

Silver Member
Username: Pulp_fiction

Post Number: 603
Registered: Nov-07
can tell yo this is not what Nagra charges Millions of dollars to lease their encryption protction



Okay king yo care to tell me know how


This


This is disassembled Bev Mecm 40 code:
00:0100: 99 sec
00:0101: 8A pushcc
00:0102: 9B sei
00:0103: B6 0D lda $0D
00:0105: 88 pusha
00:0106: A4 F7 and #$F7
00:0108: B7 0D sta $0D
00:010A: A6 02 lda #$02
00:010C: B7 48 sta $48
00:010E: A6 02 lda #$02
00:0110: 8D 00 A8 22 jsrp #$00, $A822
00:0114: A6 00 lda #$00
00:0116: C7 0B 92 sta $0B92
00:0119: A6 0B lda #$0B
00:011B: C7 0B 93 sta $0B93
00:011E: A6 A2 lda #$A2
00:0120: C7 0B 94 sta $0B94
00:0123: 5F clrx
00:0124: 4F clra
00:0125: AD 0B bsr $132
00:0127: 5C incx
00:0128: A3 04 cmpx #$04
00:012A: 25 F9 bcs $125
00:012C: 84 popa
00:012D: B7 0D sta $0D
00:012F: 86 popcc
00:0130: 98 clc
00:0131: 87 rtsp
00:0132: 89 pushx
00:0133: 90 AE 01 ldy #$01
00:0136: 32 D8 0B 92 eor [$0B92:$0B93:$0B94], Y
00:013A: 32 D7 0B 92 sta [$0B92:$0B93:$0B94], Y
00:013E: AD 48 bsr $188
00:0140: 4F clra
00:0141: B7 48 sta $48
00:0143: A6 07 lda #$07
00:0145: CD 38 40 jsr $3840
00:0148: 90 5F clry
00:014A: 32 D6 0B 92 lda [$0B92:$0B93:$0B94], Y
00:014E: A4 1F and #$1F
00:0150: B7 4A sta $4A
00:0152: 90 5C incy
00:0154: 32 D6 0B 92 lda [$0B92:$0B93:$0B94], Y
00:0158: B7 49 sta RC2
00:015A: A6 49 lda #$49
00:015C: B7 16 sta $16
00:015E: 3F 15 clr $15
00:0160: 3A 15 dec $15
00:0162: 3F 14 clr $14
00:0164: 12 16 bset1 $16
00:0166: A6 22 lda #$22
00:0168: CD 38 40 jsr $3840
00:016B: 13 16 bclr1 $16
00:016D: AD 19 bsr $188
00:016F: AD 22 bsr $193
00:0171: AD 04 bsr $177
00:0173: 85 popx
00:0174: B6 14 lda $14
00:0176: 81 rts
00:0177: C6 0B 94 lda $0B94
00:017A: AB 08 add #$08
00:017C: C7 0B 94 sta $0B94
00:017F: C6 0B 93 lda $0B93
00:0182: A9 00 adc #$00
00:0184: C7 0B 93 sta $0B93
00:0187: 81 rts
00:0188: C6 0B 93 lda $0B93
00:018B: B7 44 sta $44
00:018D: C6 0B 94 lda $0B94
00:0190: B7 45 sta $45
00:0192: 81 rts
00:0193: 3F 48 clr $48
00:0195: A6 0B lda #$0B
00:0197: CD 38 40 jsr $3840
00:019A: 81 rts




turn into this

https://www.ecoustics.com/electronics/forum/home-video/412215.html


if it was
from an old 8 bit MP z80 or Intel 8085 was designed mid 1970(s)



 

Gold Member
Username: Tapeman

New York City in-HD, NY

Post Number: 1917
Registered: Oct-06
What I meant this is an old OPCode commands from an old Microprocessor

Anyone can trace this program if yo got the blue card and follow the instructions

I don't know where to load them or what they are for
If yo really got questions go to the link and ask programmers
I know MP well but I don't do hack stuff
 

Silver Member
Username: Pulp_fiction

Post Number: 605
Registered: Nov-07
I don't know where to load them or what they are for
If yo really got questions go to the link and ask programmers
I know MP well but I don't do hack stuff


I'm not impressed....I fear I shall soon join the ranks of others on here and write "yo" off as some whack-o...

Did u not read "WHAT it is" I told you what it is.. TWICE

it's a stream capture from BEV and a disassembled version of there last ecm...

Come on guy shift ur model T out of...
parked on stupid....

btw

I and others are still awaiting the Greatest way ever to split a signal to multi stb's..

and of a in-depth description on how dn is able to infiltrate the flash rom on a viewsat via the stream to disable the ablilty to operate a diseqc swith.

Before U going questioning the validity of others post you might like to back up "yo" own.. as to give creditabilty of ur abilty to question anything.
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