Say Ciao to FTA
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Bronze Member Username: CaliPost Number: 100 Registered: May-06 | http://www.forbes.com/markets/2007/12/04/echostar-att-broadband-marekts-equity-c x_ra_1204marekts19.html |
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Gold Member Username: Ke5aqnIF I DONT KNOW THE ANSWER, I WILL FIND... Post Number: 1557 Registered: Sep-06 | That is a nice story about the upcoming auction of the 700mhz radio frequency band. That band had been designated for a new WiFi service. Echostar being announced as a qualified is interesting. They will be bidding against google, at&t, among others. This latest development in the echostar story tells me they will be saving funds for this upcoming auction and not doing a mojor hardware change with their Dish Network DBS. So FTA should be fine for a long time....thanks for the info |
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Silver Member Username: CaliPost Number: 101 Registered: May-06 | I heard, Nimiq doesn't work with the latest test bins, yet Dish and DirectTv do. |
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Gold Member Username: Ke5aqnIF I DONT KNOW THE ANSWER, I WILL FIND... Post Number: 1560 Registered: Sep-06 | Cali if you are getting Direct Tv with a FTA receiver you are the only one I ever heard of.. |
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Silver Member Username: RunnerguyPluto Post Number: 837 Registered: Sep-06 | While reading the above story, saying that EchoStars stocks fell 4.8% last Tue,I remembered that the previous day they were up 4.5% amid rumors that XM-Sirius merger had showed some possibility of happening. I'm pretty sure that wouldn't be a great thing for FTA. |
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Silver Member Username: CaliPost Number: 102 Registered: May-06 | I didn't say I was, I heard... this dude is!  |
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Gold Member Username: Ke5aqnIF I DONT KNOW THE ANSWER, I WILL FIND... Post Number: 1562 Registered: Sep-06 | XM_Sirius will murge I am sure. I have them both in diferant car's LoL......that merger having anything to do with echstar combating us harder I fail to see a connection. |
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Silver Member Username: CaliPost Number: 103 Registered: May-06 | It's back up $2+ after hours. |
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Gold Member Username: Ke5aqnIF I DONT KNOW THE ANSWER, I WILL FIND... Post Number: 1563 Registered: Sep-06 | So thats what it would like to try to compete with a motorized set up....LoL |
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Silver Member Username: RunnerguyPluto Post Number: 838 Registered: Sep-06 | T FTA T That should have been Sirius and Direct TV with a possible merger not XM, my bad. If this merger happened over a period of time Sirius would have Direct TV signal security. When the merger was first mentioned back in July many experts felt that the Feds wouldn't allow this to happen because of a possible monopoly. |
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Bronze Member Username: BushdamanPost Number: 28 Registered: Nov-07 | for one sirius and xm radio are at odds as of now. if one where to lets say buy into another company lets say dn thats a monopoly and the fcc im sure would not let them. if you do remember dave tryed to buy dick and all he ended up was fruity(hey they wouldnt let me say g0y. another reason the fcc wouldnt let this happen is because they subscribe to dave and get it free lol |
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Silver Member Username: CaliPost Number: 104 Registered: May-06 | I see FTA Tester... (Copied and pasted) This is how the ECMs work... and there are a few. For DTV there is what they call the BIN. This is your subscription number basicly. What DTV hackers did was share that bin with hundreds of people so everyone was "activated". When DTV was awair of this bin people used, they turned it off. To turn off a bin they "black listed" that bin. The satallites would broadcast these blacklisted bins down the stream and if it matched the one on your card, it looped your card and made it unusable. Hackers found a way to un-loop the card. Then people would have to find a new bin to use.... a bit of a pain... but recoverable.DTV is no longer an issue because they now released an unhacked card. Dish Network is a little different from the way I understand it. Dish sends down bins too... but they dont call them bins.... and they dont send down the black listed ones. They only send down valid ones. If your valid bin matches the one in the data stream, then your activated. Dish network picks people at random and does this test on them: (because its a one way deal, its an order to the recever) The recever is asked if it is subscription number XXXXXX and if it is, is it subscribed to HBO, and if it is he is not supost to be on that channel. The ECM then takes place. For a better example with dish lets take this situation. The following is purely an example:<br><br>My buddy steve subscribes to DISH. I barrow his card for 5 minutes and copy it. I now have whatever he subscribes to on my TV (its not this easy, but basicly true... just slightly more complicated than that). I then change on my card that I subscribe to everything, including PPV and Pporn. Now my TV has every channel ever on my buddies subscription. Lets say I also have a TSOP lock on my IRD. The box never gets hurt, the only damage I might suffer when I get an ECM is to my card itself. Dish would then loop my card and i have to reprogram it with the same info (takes 10 seconds). No long wait in this case. Some people have fully hacked the card so they understand the encryption fully. They dont require somebody's subscription code to activate, as they can generate their own working one basicly. If you happen to have one of the earliest cards, what they call a Rom 2 card, it cant be looped so you are never down as long as buddy steve keeps subscribing his basic 60 channels. <br>If you dont have a rom 2 card then you are forced to add a little extra data to your card called a blocker. Under this case you might have to wait for someone to make a working blocker and release it and your good for another few weeks. A hasle but manageable. For people in the case where their subscripion activation is not shared by many people they can basicly have no problems. Black bird is what they call a FTA (Free to air box) FTA boxes such as the black bird are available online from places like FTA boxes are legal and widly sold all around. They are intended to pick up all the free channels that already exist on any satalite but mostly from the KU and C band satallites. These are channels like feeds from news companies, infomercials, episodes of TV shows edited without commercials so local stations can record them and fill in their own commercials, as well as thousand of audio only subcarriers. All and all there are probably about 1000 of these free channels with no or little encryption (now about 850 of these channels are blank and unused and the ones that are used, are crap you wouldnt want to watch). These are what FTA boxes are intended for. They are not advertised as being able to hack dish network. What someone figured out how to do is flash the EPROM sections of these boxes so they can decode the signal of dish network. The boxes can then recieve everything from any of echostar's satallites. What makes these boxes illegal is that their eprom has been flashed with this illegal code. Because the FTA boxes require no card, they cannot be be ECMed by data being written to the card. Because FTA boxes are not designed the same way normal dish recievers are, they dont have a TSOP for an ECM to damage the box. Basicly no known ECM can damage this box... and they probably do have one but its a question of legality if dish is able to legally permanatly disable your FTA box that they dont own even though your stealing their signal. As soon as dish swaps out all these old cards and replaces it with these new cards (the ones that were just starting to be hacked) FTA boxes will no longer work... and a workaround for this is estimated to take another year from where we are today. yeah now that you say that percentage .2 or something I have to be way low. I didnt want to guess an extremely high number and look like a fool. Its probably closer to 2-3 % maybe more. ALl i do know is that dish rarely sues somebody for stealing their signal and dtv sues thousands of people a week for their theft, or at least they did. DTV would raid these places that sold illegal equipment, get their customer database list, and mail everybody a letter that basicly said Send us 2000 dollars to settle or we will sue you (blackmail). People that bought lagatamate stuff from these companies.. and stuff that wasnt related to hacking still got these letters because DTV was sloppy. They have yet to win a case in court, but have reportatly made millions from these blackmail letters.... and now that they have completly defeated hacking (what they said drives up the cost for lagatamate customers) they have yet to lower their cost. thats why I hate them. when Dish network sues somebody.. which is rare.. they always win. They know they have the person nailed to the tenth degree when they go after them. Thats why I respect Dish, they arnt sloppy |
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Bronze Member Username: BushdamanPost Number: 30 Registered: Nov-07 | and of course a copy from john go figure |
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Gold Member Username: Ke5aqnIF I DONT KNOW THE ANSWER, I WILL FIND... Post Number: 1568 Registered: Sep-06 | http://www.siriusmerger.com/ XM and Sirius have already merged from what I have just read...its pretty much a done deal..they have already announced pricing for the subscribers even.. |
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Silver Member Username: RunnerguyPluto Post Number: 839 Registered: Sep-06 | Sirius has Viewtech and a couple of other FTA box makers in litigation now and I don't think they are doing so well except to drains some funds from the box makers pockets with court fees and lawyers. That might be why we are seeing these current ECM's ......You can bet that Sirius is going to try and do something. In Canada alone there are over 600,000 FTA users. I don't know how many there are in the US but it should be at least the same. That would be a 36 Million dollar a month loss for Sirius doing the math with a $30.00 USD a month bill. |
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Silver Member Username: CaliPost Number: 105 Registered: May-06 | That's your's John? Here's the link. http://messages.finance.yahoo.com/Stocks_%28A_to_Z%29/Stocks_E/threadview?m=te&b n=5222&tid=60955&mid=-1&tof=-1&rt=1&frt=2&off=1#-1 Are you a day trader? |
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Silver Member Username: RunnerguyPluto Post Number: 840 Registered: Sep-06 | Did someone leave the door open and let in a fly? |
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