ECM & FTA Status Update News

 

New member
Username: Kishan2006

Post Number: 6
Registered: Jul-06
Here is C/P from the recently update new for the ECM & FTA Status

ECM Status

Latest Info From TDG C&P

"The routine is known! Files being compiled! This is good and NOT good. Once providers see how quickly this was figured out, undoubtedly NEW even harder routines will follow, BUT it also will tell on the fact that their maprom & sysrom are known. It may be time for releases to originate at yahoo or someplace other than homesites for these box makers. The heat is def on, and coders have stepped up, but now one has to question the wisdom of releases. Hang tight, it's gonna get interesting for sure."

Maybe 10 to 12 hrs.

Should see files in about a dozen hours from now.

Info from :http://www.electronicguru.net/forum/index.php
 

Gold Member
Username: Ke5aqn

IF I DONT KNOW THE ANSWER, I WILL FIND...

Post Number: 1145
Registered: Sep-06
intersting thanks
 

Silver Member
Username: Leafs

Post Number: 111
Registered: Oct-07
hopefully true... should be here by noon ET then...
 

Silver Member
Username: Chrisduclo

Post Number: 108
Registered: Aug-06
here is what i found at dsscommunity

c/p
Viewsat and Pansat Update

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This is a C & P from a very reputable site.
Sure hope it is true.
Even if the fix only lasts for a short time, it will send a strong and expensive message(more coding to do) to the two providers and hopefully keep the cost of plastic down.



Quote:
Here is the conversation

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<moderator> We have video/audio! Coder has family crisis, but bin is being compiled. And yes, it works. This was a tuff 1: IS actually to see if we have all the maprom
<moderator> They're gonna sh** when they see it fix'd this fast. Problem is 2 fold: this is surely a legalistic move to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that companies like vs & ps exist to provide pirate boxes.
<moderator> vs & ps will have a fix : all I can tell you for now. Other companies will be moving to an aux solution due to their lack of good encryption specialists coders.
<moderator> this is really tricky. Pattern is known now. They're using 9 bytes of the card that are rarely ever used. The least used 9 bytes. Also 4% error margin built in.. But we don't even need it. They will change this up quickly tho. Fixes won't last more than a day or 2. But we will be up even quicker next time.
<moderator> and they will see once again, resistance is futile, card swap is required to stop us. They need to tighten their %@*& up to stop us.. PERIOD. Even if they have to change out all hardware. Then korea marches on, business as usual...


BTW...ALL OF BEV IS DEAD NOW!!!!!!!
 

Silver Member
Username: Chrisduclo

Post Number: 109
Registered: Aug-06
what is an "aux" solution. how would it work?
 

Silver Member
Username: Chrisduclo

Post Number: 110
Registered: Aug-06
here is what i found at dsscommunity

c/p
Viewsat and Pansat Update

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This is a C & P from a very reputable site.
Sure hope it is true.
Even if the fix only lasts for a short time, it will send a strong and expensive message(more coding to do) to the two providers and hopefully keep the cost of plastic down.



Quote:
Here is the conversation

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<moderator> We have video/audio! Coder has family crisis, but bin is being compiled. And yes, it works. This was a tuff 1: IS actually to see if we have all the maprom
<moderator> They're gonna sh** when they see it fix'd this fast. Problem is 2 fold: this is surely a legalistic move to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that companies like vs & ps exist to provide pirate boxes.
<moderator> vs & ps will have a fix : all I can tell you for now. Other companies will be moving to an aux solution due to their lack of good encryption specialists coders.
<moderator> this is really tricky. Pattern is known now. They're using 9 bytes of the card that are rarely ever used. The least used 9 bytes. Also 4% error margin built in.. But we don't even need it. They will change this up quickly tho. Fixes won't last more than a day or 2. But we will be up even quicker next time.
<moderator> and they will see once again, resistance is futile, card swap is required to stop us. They need to tighten their %@*& up to stop us.. PERIOD. Even if they have to change out all hardware. Then korea marches on, business as usual...


BTW...ALL OF BEV IS DEAD NOW!!!!!!!
 

Silver Member
Username: Chrisduclo

Post Number: 111
Registered: Aug-06
sorry for the double post....
i have no idea how it happened.
 

Gold Member
Username: Ke5aqn

IF I DONT KNOW THE ANSWER, I WILL FIND...

Post Number: 1152
Registered: Sep-06
Coolness......loved the part about other brands than VS and PS will not get this as easy...
 

Bronze Member
Username: Drmunna

Post Number: 86
Registered: Oct-07
this is from one of guy @ ftatalk (where mingo show-up last time with fix)

" updates on bev and dn ecm latest news

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As we all know DN and BEV beef up their game, and took a punch at FTA testing community with new mapcalls 4e and 4d along with the use of dynamic code to retrieve the control words.
The difficulty all supports team are facing right now is Timer function, it required alot of time to test and figure out the timing on how mapcall process. It could be days or weeks, but it workable, in the mean time be patience and wait it out and let the supports team to do their job, which they are best for.

PLease Do Not ask when fix will be done and Do Not bash any supports team

Let take advance during the black out and go do some shopping, it a season of giving. When there are a fix, it will be post it here

""
 

Bronze Member
Username: Koko_wawa

Post Number: 91
Registered: Aug-07
it looks like the good news are coming soon
 

Silver Member
Username: Tigger_woods

Flutopia

Post Number: 197
Registered: Jun-07
Maybe 10 to 12 hrs.

Should see files in about a dozen hours from now.

SOMEONE TOOK THE LIBERTY OF ADDING THIS TO TDG CP

HE NEVER MENTIONS THE 10-12 HOURS or anything of the sort on a time frame.
 

Gold Member
Username: Nydas

Post Number: 5418
Registered: Jun-06
Tiger Woods: Yesterday you were saying you are leaving the forum. Today you are posting as if nothing has happened.
 

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Username: Oleg1474

New port richey, Fl Usa

Post Number: 420
Registered: Aug-06
November 1, 2007
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- Instantly start downloading all the latest WORKING Software, Files, Upgrades, Key Codes, & Firmware to keep your FTA Receiver up and running all the time.

All receivers are now up and running from the recent ECM. Thanks for your patience.
 

Gold Member
Username: Nydas

Post Number: 5453
Registered: Jun-06
Do not beleive one word of oleg.

It is a spam.
 

Silver Member
Username: Kirankumar

Post Number: 142
Registered: Oct-07
Oleg ,
why dont you get lost from this forum,you are tring to mislead people.don't need jerks like u here.get lost
 

Bronze Member
Username: Plks4432

Post Number: 13
Registered: Nov-07
Hi Nalin,
If you have any connection with any coders, can you share with us some news. Otherwise, according to Drmunna info, we could do shopping not for hours, but for days, from now on...
 

Silver Member
Username: Kirankumar

Post Number: 143
Registered: Oct-07
Pavel,
no one can discuss information like this,so be patient and enjoy the channels u r getting now
 

Silver Member
Username: Jojogun

Fairfield, CA United States

Post Number: 316
Registered: Apr-06
Let's hope the fix will hold for the Hatton/Mayweather fight. That should be a goodie
 

Bronze Member
Username: Plks4432

Post Number: 14
Registered: Nov-07
H-mm ..
Interesting situation..
So many people are waiting for coders to succeed with their efforts and there is no info or connections at all? Is it for safety reasons?
 

Silver Member
Username: Tigger_woods

Flutopia

Post Number: 204
Registered: Jun-07
#62 2 Hours Ago
Veracity
Status: Offline
Official Bystander Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 902

They got it!

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They got it! We have picture & sound and the routine IS KNOWN & Defeated! More to follow, Just letting you all know, waiting for test files now. By this evening releases will come! Nice TRY Charlie!
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Please don't PM me, ask questions in forums. I don't condone signal theft, in fact, sub to a provider for the best TV experience, I do!!
 

Silver Member
Username: Runnerguy

Pluto

Post Number: 824
Registered: Sep-06
Shut Up TW
 

Silver Member
Username: Oleg1474

New port richey, Fl Usa

Post Number: 423
Registered: Aug-06
 

Silver Member
Username: Tigger_woods

Flutopia

Post Number: 207
Registered: Jun-07
Nalin Nyda
Gold Member
Username: Nydas

Post Number: 5418
Registered: Jun-06
Posted on Saturday, December 01, 2007 - 09:56 am:

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Tiger Woods: Yesterday you were saying you are leaving the forum. Today you are posting as if nothing has happened.

You are hijacking a thread Nalin!!!

Yes a lot has happened since yesterday. I learned that MOST of the people attacking me yesterday where from THE HATE AMERICA CROWD.

I gave you the chance to say you supported the liberation of about 50 million Muslims in Iraq and Afghanistan by the US military...and you remained silent...

I won, you lost...get over it...you support the terrorists, I support the US Military.
 

Gold Member
Username: Nydas

Post Number: 5466
Registered: Jun-06
Tiger Woods : YOU were attacking me, and admitted it.

"Posted by Tiger Woods on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 04:21 pm:

Just wanted to sign off and say what a bunch of hypocrites most of you are. Coming down on me for being silly a few times. First off my joke after the airplane crash was funny....I said I hope there was no coders on board, it was a funny joke!!

I first said God Bless them all, none of us knew anybody on the plane. It was a terrible tragedy.

What was it even doing on this forum for starters, thats what Nalin would have said if I had put the story there.

Yes I am Deb Odair as well as dirty democrat. I have been here atleast 4 years, probably more???

I mostly posted only on sat matters but occasionally got silly. This Deborah Odair could have been a real person. You had no idea it was me and she really did nothing wrong.

I wonder how many really nice people have come by only to be treated badly...the Bible says we might one day be talking to a real angel and not be aware of it.....

Bearing false witness is pretty serious stuff... It is still true that I never swore or used bad language here ever??

I never did!!!

I call you losers now(the ones that attacked me that is)

OVER AND OUT"
 

Silver Member
Username: Oleg1474

New port richey, Fl Usa

Post Number: 427
Registered: Aug-06
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FTA Satellite Source offers private nagra2 bin file memberships for ALL FTA satellite receiver models!
 

Gold Member
Username: Nydas

Post Number: 5467
Registered: Jun-06
Tiger Woods: No amount of lying and false accusations will get you out of this. You are a racist and you know it. There is not HATE AMERICA CROWD here and there was a small HATE MUSLIMS crowd here and you tried to make as if I was part of it. In fact, you are one big skunk orchestrating the Hate Muslim crowd here.

TIGER WOODS - GET OUT OF THIS FORUM
 

Gold Member
Username: Ke5aqn

IF I DONT KNOW THE ANSWER, I WILL FIND...

Post Number: 1178
Registered: Sep-06
Oleg their are NO NEW BINS on that forum I am on it now!
 

Silver Member
Username: Bill038

Post Number: 210
Registered: Sep-06
Nalin, are you trying to run everyone off that does not agree with you? Just a observation.
 

Gold Member
Username: Nydas

Post Number: 5468
Registered: Jun-06
Bill Vickers : There are different levels of disagreement, and I have had minor disagreements with you in the past.
This matter is direct and a personal attack against me.
Attempting to frame me, a person of Indian Origin, and a non-muslim, in a way as if I am a Muslim hater, is a very serious matter. And it is all admitted by this person, Tiger Woods, who did it posing as somebody else.
I therefore suggest you stay out of it.
 

Silver Member
Username: Bill038

Post Number: 211
Registered: Sep-06
It seems to me that you want everyone out of here that does not adhere to you and your BS
 

Gold Member
Username: Nydas

Post Number: 5470
Registered: Jun-06
Bill Vickers: From the tone of your post, it seems you do not want to stay out of it.
 

New member
Username: Winterpeg

Winnipeg, MB Canada

Post Number: 1
Registered: Jan-07
Hi everyone...this is my first or 2nd post perhaps but you will be hearing more from me from now on. I just wanted to express my sentiments regarding Oleg and his stupid website he keeps tryng to plug. If he really likes it as much as he seems to, then what the hell is he doing here??? Enough already!!
 

Gold Member
Username: Ke5aqn

IF I DONT KNOW THE ANSWER, I WILL FIND...

Post Number: 1183
Registered: Sep-06
HIs forum needs members bad is why.....almost no post's their today under 10
 

Silver Member
Username: Bill038

Post Number: 212
Registered: Sep-06
I just thought you could give me a answer. Do you want people gone that do not agree with you or your BS? Can you answer that in a yes or no and then I will leave.
 

Gold Member
Username: Nydas

Post Number: 5473
Registered: Jun-06
Bill Vickers : You can stay if you want to, and leave if you want to. I do not give orders here. You old friend LK used to try and give orders, and people like you danced to her orders, and developed a master to slave mentality.
I do not give orders, only opinions or advice.
 

Silver Member
Username: Oleg1474

New port richey, Fl Usa

Post Number: 439
Registered: Aug-06
Posted on Saturday, December 01, 2007 - 06:53 pm:

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Folks as of 12/01/07 there are lots of channels that are down like ppv and adults etc. on dn and bev. There are some channels still up on dn and bev like A&E and LMN etc. Please do not start numerous posts about this problem. Go to the file section for your receiver and check to see if there is a new file out and if not then we will just have to be patient and wait. The coders are working hard to come up with a fix for this problem. As soon as new fixes come out they will be posted ASAP. Also please do not post questions in the file section about where are the new bins because they will only be deleted. Like I said before if a new bin comes out we will get it out ASAP. Thanks.

Just a little foot note. In the summer of 2006 most receivers were completely down for almost two months or better before a fix came out at the time. The only thing we could get was local channels so it is always good to have a back up if possible which for me is digital cable. You just never can tell how long something like this may last. (EURO666/ECU12-01-2007)
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OlegPHD
 

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Username: Saqeeb9000

Post Number: 357
Registered: Oct-07
oleg how many times u are going to post this......
 

Silver Member
Username: Oleg1474

New port richey, Fl Usa

Post Number: 448
Registered: Aug-06
NOTICE Over the past year or more, a new trend has emerged that is probably too good to be true. You may have heard names like "BLACKBIRD", "SILVERBIRD", "SILVER BULLET" and others, applied to MPEG-2 receivers that claim to be capable of receiving subscription programming free of charge. Certain promoters have even claimed the idea that such reception is legal. Numerous receivers have been modified by unscrupulous people hoping to make a fast buck on the greed of certain folks that still believe that you can beat the system and that premium television is something that you should not have to pay for. Common sense should tell you otherwise. Laws are now on the books in both the United States and Canada that list heavy fines and even prison time for stealing programming. It's not a joke any more, and if you are foolish enough to buy into the idea that you can permanently avoid paying for satellite channels that normally require payment of a subscription, an expensive lesson may be in your future. If this is not enough to make you think twice about beating the system with modified equipment, think about this: Two of the largest companies affected by such hacking (Bell ExpressVu in Canada and DISH Network in the United States) are continually updating their security systems, so the prospect of getting these channels without cost in the future will be quite limited. Rest assured that both companies will eventually get their "leaks" under control, just as DirecTV did after implementing tougher security measures.
 

Gold Member
Username: Ke5aqn

IF I DONT KNOW THE ANSWER, I WILL FIND...

Post Number: 1266
Registered: Sep-06
Upload
 

Gold Member
Username: Nydas

Post Number: 5495
Registered: Jun-06
SONICVIEW and
VIEWSAT and
C00LSAT and
PANSAT and
CW600 checked at three sites.

NO new BINs.
 

Bronze Member
Username: Mzakcat

Post Number: 51
Registered: Aug-05
"cookie monster analogy".

If you recall the analogy, it goes something like this:

Nagra 2 is considered a secure fortress (or house) with a cookie monster as the sole occupant. Nobody is allowed in or out of this house and the cookie monster's job is to bake cookies according to the secret recipe given to him by the providers. Without this recipe, nobody else can bake these cookies.

A subscriber comes to the door and requests video authorization for a particular channel. The cookie monster checks his books to make sure the subscriber is paying for that channel. If he is paying, the cookie monster gives the subscriber a cookie that he can use to decrypt the signal and watch TV for about 15 seconds. This process is repeated after 15 seconds or every time the subscriber changes the channel.

Now, without the cookie recipe or without being able to break into the N2 fortress, nobody can get get free cookies (i.e. free TV).

The difference betweeen the Nagra 1 fortress and the Nagra 2 fortress was that the former fortress had a lot of windows which could be broken (i.e. glitched) to gain access to the N1 fortress and steal the cookie recipe or the cookies themselves. With N2, all the windows were completely boarded up and the cookie jar was moved to the basement for added security.

So what is No1b4me to do now? If you recall, No1b4me was the kid breaking all the windows in the neighbourhood. Now there were no more windows to break and it would be impossible to gain access to the N2 fortress. Or would it?

No1b4me had an idea. Why not enter the fortress through the sewer system? If the providers hadn't sealed off the sewage system going into the fortress, it just might be possible to "INTERCEPT" the cookie monster in the toilet!

It WORKED! You can imagine how startled the cookie monster was sitting on the throne and all of a sudden No1b4me pops out of the toilet! That one did not go down too well (no pun intended) with the security providers who had built the N2 fortress. At any rate, No1b4me was able to steal the cookie recipe from the N2 fortress. Now with the cookie recipe known, anyone could decrypt the N2 video stream. Soon enough, cookie factories all over the slums of East Beijing started baking their own brand of cookies (i.e. FTA) according to the original cookie recipe!

Talk about being trapped between a cookie and a hard place? What were the security providers going to do now? For a while, they didn't do much. They tried modifying the cookie recipe every once in a while (i.e. key changes) but this proved futile as the new recipe could be gotten the same way the original one was through the sewer.

Interestingly enough, the security providers recently started to bake their cookies with chocolate chips! They instructed the cookie monster to "RANDOMLY" add a few chocolate chips to each cookie prior to baking. So now, the subscriber needs a chocolate chip cookie to decrypt video! Since only the cookie monster knows how to randomly place the chocolate chips on the cookie, the FTA cookies won't work anymore. For you see, it is still possible to enter the N2 fortress and steal the new recipe and the chocolate chips too and take them back to Beijing, but by the time the Beijing factory bakes the FTA cookies with the chocolate chips and sends them overseas, the cookie monster is instructed to "RANDOMLY" change the location of the chocolate chips on the new cookies and so on!

You see, now you have to ALWAYS be present in the N2 fortress to know how the cookie monster will randomly place the chocolate chips. Sort of like a quantum mechanics thing where all events are statistical instead of deterministic.

In short, that is why you are all watching black screens on one provider. The second provider will follow shortly as soon as the cookie monster is ready.

And that is the story of how the cookie monster learned quantum mechanics and why you won't be watching free TV anymore.

Whatever happened to No1b4me? He decided to go down the street and play. There is another fortress on the same street owned by a chap named Murdoch. Guess what? That bumbling fool forgot about the sewer too! You'll see...
 

Bronze Member
Username: Mzakcat

Post Number: 52
Registered: Aug-05
that's an old c/p but it gave us hope then ???
 

Bronze Member
Username: Dmc0923

Post Number: 14
Registered: Feb-07
so what you are saying is there is no fix out there and it will be awhile before there is one?
 

Gold Member
Username: Ke5aqn

IF I DONT KNOW THE ANSWER, I WILL FIND...

Post Number: 1280
Registered: Sep-06
Look that was posted in this forum in 2006

https://www.ecoustics.com/electronics/forum/home-video/231062.html
 

Silver Member
Username: Pulp_fiction

Post Number: 446
Registered: Nov-07
Look that was posted in this forum in 2006

https://www.ecoustics.com/electronics/forum/home-video/231062.html


yeah but..

No1


is the man...

he was like the first to figure out this current ecm and a work around
 

New member
Username: Chadap

Post Number: 6
Registered: Nov-07
Sonicview files are going to be out in next 2 hours or atleast by 4pm EST. By late evening all of the major fta sites will have sonicview new bins.
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