Pansat 2500 or clone or FLU

 

Gold Member
Username: Nydas

Post Number: 3803
Registered: Jun-06
I has a Key Morphing thread twice but jealous people came and ruined it.
I am starting it again.
 

Gold Member
Username: Nydas

Post Number: 3804
Registered: Jun-06
If you have Pansat 2500 or clone of it or FLU, the 2nd number of key 00 and Key 01 does not come through at the time of autoroll.

Let the autoroll work till the 200-300% stops and is off the screen. Yhen go in and you will change the 2nd number of both keys. If you can't get to Internet or do not want to wait. You can change these two numbers, using yopur Windows calcular or a scientific calculator

For 286, 286T, 289, 289T 294, 294T BINs
Real_2nd_number = autorolled_2nd_number XOR 43H

For 293 and 293T BINs
Real_2nd_number = autorolled_2nd_number XOR C5H

You can also use the following table.

If using BIN 294, 294T, 286, 286T
XOR 2nd number (byte) with 43 Hex or use this table.

1st Digit | ------- | 2nd digit
0 <---> 4 | ------- | 0 <---> 3
1 <---> 5 | ------- | 1 <---> 2
2 <---> 6 | ------- | 2 <---> 1
3 <---> 7 | ------- | 4 <---> 7
8 <---> C | ------- | 5 <---> 6
9 <---> D | ------- | 6 <---> 5
A <---> E | ------- | 8 <---> B
B <---> F | ------- | 9 <---> A
E <---> A | ------- | C <---> F
F <---> B | ------- | D <---> E

If using BIN 293 and 293T
XOR 2nd number (byte) with C5 Hex or use this table

1st Digit | ------- | 2nd digit
0 <---> C | ------- | 0 <---> 5
1 <---> D | ------- | 1 <---> 4
2 <---> E | ------- | 2 <---> 7
3 <---> F | ------- | 3 <---> 6
4 <---> 8 | ------- | 8 <---> D
5 <---> 9 | ------- | 9 <---> C
6 <---> A | ------- | A <---> F
7 <---> B | ------- | B <---> E
Estrella has suggested above the use of Windows Calculator. It is available from Start/Programs/accessories/calculator.
Choose Scientific calculator, and then choose HEX in the scientific calculator.

You can use a scientific calculator.
 

Gold Member
Username: Nydas

Post Number: 3808
Registered: Jun-06
For 294T BIN

Correct_2nd_number = autorolled_2nd_number XOR 43 Hex.

Worked every time after allowing the keys to autoroll. You can use windows calculator - put it in scientific mode and change the input to Hex. The use the calculator like any other arithmetic.
You do not need to go to the Internet to get the keys.
Table method is posted in the beginning of this thread.
 

Gold Member
Username: Nydas

Post Number: 3837
Registered: Jun-06
For about two weeks now, I have been using the technique of changing the 2nd numbers without referring to the computer and Internet and it has worked consistently.
 

Gold Member
Username: Nydas

Post Number: 3840
Registered: Jun-06
It is called testing. Of course,I could have looked up the keys. But I had put a piece of information and a formula to use and I wanted to see if it works consistently. And it is working.

It is very good advice. The first sticky in Pansat discussion at
http://www.dssrookie.com and specifically at
http://www.dssrookie.com/forums/img-src-images-pansat-png-border-0-b-font-color- 0000ee-pansat-font-discussion-b/

is about : change keys without searching for it

and initially the instructions were for first byte, but for the past 10 days or so, my instructions have superceded, as the key morphing changed.

Look at page 10 of that thread
http://www.dssrookie.com/forums/img-src-images-pansat-png-border-0-b-font-color- 0000ee-pansat-font-discussion-b/change-keys-without-searching-for-it-146967-10.h tml

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09-16-2007, 01:48 PM - posted by amartin4 sums it up.

"nydas formula

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kapsnp6. Go to Nagravision2 and go to "00". Change very first digit of whole key:0<-->8 (If it is 0 than change it to 8 or viceversa), 1<-->9, 2<-->A,3<-->B, 4<-->C, 5<-->D, 6<-->E, 7<-->FPlease explain in this... I don't have 0..1..2 as my first numbers. It's different.. I am a newbie."


"Kapsnp.
what i see is that you type doomoo's formula. That formula worked for a while few weeks ago. Now the nydas formula is working.see post #189 and use it depending of what bin are you using...."


If you have ANY concerns for the truth, I suggest you leave this thread and let the people who want to use an alternative method use it.
 

Platinum Member
Username: Lklives

Post Number: 12196
Registered: Jan-06
Its MUCH simpler to just SHUT OFF AUTOROLL and manually enter the keys posted here and every other DSS site or keyfinder utility...or upgrade and BUY a newer receiver and DUMP that dinosaur 2500 or its clone...Blacklist told everybody 8 months ago, that its a POS and he will NOT support it any more!
 

Gold Member
Username: Nydas

Post Number: 3851
Registered: Jun-06
When you are watching TV and the new keys come in under 294T BIN, it take about 90-110 seconds for the keys to come in and for changing the second byte.
LK - you do not have a Pansat clone using 294T BIN nor a Pansat using 2500 BIN.
LEARN THAT the keys come in even if the autoroll is off.
LEARN THAT at that time the latest keys are not yet posted.
LEARN THAT by the time one cna get on the internet and copy all 16 numbers and change the 2nd number on the other key and restart it is about 7 to 15 minitues of missed TV.
LEARN THAT and STOP YOUR INSANE POSTS!!!

ALL ABOVE IS FROM TESTING AND PERSONAL EXPERIENCE OVER THE LAST 2-3 WEEKS
 

Silver Member
Username: Flatulant_kitty

Post Number: 373
Registered: Jul-06
This method works perfect.If your still using the afore said bins.
It is much faster than looking up the keys.
Thanks for all your efforts.

Oh and LK....Theres absolutely no reason to turn on autoroll.It still works with it turned off.Always has.Have never had to turn A/R on even when the bins worked.
 

Platinum Member
Username: Lklives

Post Number: 12202
Registered: Jan-06
well then U CHEAP fucuuckers should breakdown and but a newer receiver...u're dealing with a dinosaur, that is NOT even supported anymore!...ANY receiver pays for itself in about 15 days, if U watch ANY premium channels, PPV's or events...CHEAP basta*rds...I guess U need your welfare checks for the trailer rent!...
 

Gold Member
Username: Nydas

Post Number: 3857
Registered: Jun-06
If you have Pansat 2500 or clone of it or FLU, the 2nd number of key 00 and Key 01 does not come through at the time of autoroll. Keys willcome in even if the autoroll is off.

Let the autoroll work till the 200-300% stops and is off the screen. Then go in and you will change the 2nd number of both keys. If you can't get to Internet or do not want to wait. You can change these two numbers, using your Windows calculator or a scientific calculator

For 286, 286T, 289, 289T 294, 294T BINs
Real_2nd_number = autorolled_2nd_number XOR 43H

For 293 and 293T BINs
Real_2nd_number = autorolled_2nd_number XOR C5H

You can also use the following table.

If using BIN 294, 294T, 286, 286T
XOR 2nd number (byte) with 43 Hex or use this table.

1st Digit | ------- | 2nd digit
0 <---> 4 | ------- | 0 <---> 3
1 <---> 5 | ------- | 1 <---> 2
2 <---> 6 | ------- | 2 <---> 1
3 <---> 7 | ------- | 4 <---> 7
8 <---> C | ------- | 5 <---> 6
9 <---> D | ------- | 6 <---> 5
A <---> E | ------- | 8 <---> B
B <---> F | ------- | 9 <---> A
E <---> A | ------- | C <---> F
F <---> B | ------- | D <---> E

If using BIN 293 and 293T
XOR 2nd number (byte) with C5 Hex or use this table

1st Digit | ------- | 2nd digit
0 <---> C | ------- | 0 <---> 5
1 <---> D | ------- | 1 <---> 4
2 <---> E | ------- | 2 <---> 7
3 <---> F | ------- | 3 <---> 6
4 <---> 8 | ------- | 8 <---> D
5 <---> 9 | ------- | 9 <---> C
6 <---> A | ------- | A <---> F
7 <---> B | ------- | B <---> E
Estrella has suggested above the use of Windows Calculator. It is available from Start/Programs/accessories/calculator.
Choose Scientific calculator, and then choose HEX in the scientific calculator.

You can use a scientific calculator.
 

Gold Member
Username: Nydas

Post Number: 3858
Registered: Jun-06
For 294T BIN

Correct_2nd_number = autorolled_2nd_number XOR 43 Hex.


Worked every time after allowing the keys to autoroll. You can use windows calculator - put it in scientific mode and change the input to Hex. The use the calculator like any other arithmetic.
You do not need to go to the Internet to get the keys.
Table method is posted above.
 

Platinum Member
Username: Lklives

Post Number: 12207
Registered: Jan-06
Maybe u should tell them idiot...where to even LOOK in their receivers to find where the keys are, before they do your ridiculous HEX method!...once they're in there, whats the diff between entering 32 bytes or 2...about 10 seconds...screw that BS and HEX stupid formula, thats ridiculous....I guess u bring your car in for an oil change but U change 2 quarts yourself and have then change 3 quarts...LMAO

I say breakdown, and spend $99 and buy a new receiver...U nalin (Joker) who says is wealthy, retired, an administrator, and drives a Porshe, ...sure are CHEAP...
 

Silver Member
Username: Asharfi

Post Number: 857
Registered: Aug-06
"I guess u bring your car in for an oil change but U change 2 quarts yourself and have then change 3 quarts" ..... aaaahhhhhhhaaaa lMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
 

Gold Member
Username: Nydas

Post Number: 3862
Registered: Jun-06
I has a Key Morphing thread twice but jealous people came and ruined it.
This is the third time LK is trying to ruin it.

For 294T BIN

Correct_2nd_number = autorolled_2nd_number XOR 43 Hex.


Worked every time after allowing the keys to autoroll. You can use windows calculator - put it in scientific mode and change the input to Hex. The use the calculator like any other arithmetic.
You do not need to go to the Internet to get the keys.
Table method is posted above.
 

Silver Member
Username: Flatulant_kitty

Post Number: 374
Registered: Jul-06
LK (period)
U STINK (period)
You sound like your on the rag again(period)
The 2500s still work as 2500s and converted to 2700.
Thats what i call support.(period)
Why in the fuucccck would i want to by any other piece of crap at this time.
And when it no longer is supported in any way it still will continue as it was meant to be, FTA.
I could easily stand a few months without all the reruns anyway.So blow it out your azz.

Thanks again nalin.
 

Silver Member
Username: Doreenakadj

Post Number: 530
Registered: Dec-06
ok guys this is part of what i read in nalins first post "If you can't get to the Internet or do not want to wait"......
I personaly think this is great info for some people. Myself I either don't watch TV ( like latety ) I am just to lazy to keep changing the keys.
But I am aware that some people go to an internet cafe and log onto this site because they don't have internet at home. So...... this info that Nalin has provided us with is great for them. Keep up the good work Nalin.
 

Silver Member
Username: Flatulant_kitty

Post Number: 381
Registered: Jul-06
I know someone that has to turn his computer on-wait-wait-wait---then connect through a dial up---wait-buzz-bleep-buzz-wait-then come here and click the new key thread and again that dial up -wait-wait-wait for the page to load,just to get the keys.

Hes thrilled with your graph.
Thanks from him too Nalin.
 

Gold Member
Username: Satscanner

Beaversbush, Sportsmans P... Great White ...

Post Number: 3171
Registered: Nov-06
Damn, I would get dialup for 9 bucks a month before going to a internet cafe.Better yet, go wireless and free internet.
 

Silver Member
Username: Flatulant_kitty

Post Number: 382
Registered: Jul-06
You gotta have a phone to get that $9.00 dial up.
 

Gold Member
Username: Satscanner

Beaversbush, Sportsmans P... Great White ...

Post Number: 3172
Registered: Nov-06
And a roof that has walls to for a phone jack too.
 

Silver Member
Username: Flatulant_kitty

Post Number: 384
Registered: Jul-06
Yeah they won't wire a cardboard box or your car.
 

New member
Username: Flatulant_kity

Post Number: 10
Registered: Sep-07
sorry I take it back.

I meant to say my parents live in a cardboard box, they will not move because the box is made from recycled koran we used for toilet paper.

SADSCANNER # 1

LK # 1

USA # 1

Middle East/India/Pakistan phewwwwccww < - sound of spit hitting the floor
 

Gold Member
Username: Nydas

Post Number: 3866
Registered: Jun-06
I had a Key Morphing thread twice but jealous people came and ruined it.

For 294T BIN

Correct_2nd_number = autorolled_2nd_number XOR 43 Hex.

For 293T BIN

Correct_2nd_number = autorolled_2nd_number XOR C5 Hex.


Worked every time after allowing the keys to autoroll. You can use windows calculator - put it in scientific mode and change the input to Hex. The use the calculator like any other arithmetic.
You do not need to go to the Internet to get the keys.
Table method is posted above.
 

New member
Username: Bull_rider

Post Number: 1
Registered: Sep-07
WHAT DOES ALL THIS MEANS. I NEED A KEY FOR A VIEWSAT CAN YOU HELP ME
 

Bronze Member
Username: Flu_guy

Post Number: 22
Registered: Aug-07
Hi Nalin et al

I already posted this piece in the "How to find new keys" thread, but I thought I would quote it here as well, because this is where it really belongs, hope nobody minds.

I have a FLU running 286T,have been using the method posted by Nalin for some time now and find that it works very well.
Personally, I don't bother to turn the autoroll on, as the method still works even with it off. The trouble is that if, (being forgetful), I don't switch the autoroll off, before watching TV, the corrected keys will end up corrupted again, by the autoroll, after just a few minutes of watching!
 

Gold Member
Username: Nydas

Post Number: 3880
Registered: Jun-06
htiek : That was a very good warning about the autoroll. If it is left on it will corrupt the keys again.

By the way, are you a lawyer?
 

Platinum Member
Username: Lklives

Post Number: 12241
Registered: Jan-06
Buy a new $99 receiver and get rid of those pansat 2500 and clones...they are DINOSAURS and NOT supported anymore.....NO NEW FILES FOR THEM AGAIN.......at the very least, convert them to a pansat 2700 clone...manually input of Keys is primitive and not necessary...especially when they may change 5-6 times a day!
 

Gold Member
Username: Nydas

Post Number: 3885
Registered: Jun-06
If you have Pansat 2500 or clone of it or FLU, the 2nd number of key 00 and Key 01 does not come through at the time of autoroll. Keys willcome in even if the autoroll is off.

Let the autoroll work till the 200-300% stops and is off the screen. Then go in and you will change the 2nd number of both keys. If you can't get to Internet or do not want to wait. You can change these two numbers, using your Windows calculator or a scientific calculator

For 286, 286T, 289, 289T 294, 294T BINs
Real_2nd_number = autorolled_2nd_number XOR 43H

For 293 and 293T BINs
Real_2nd_number = autorolled_2nd_number XOR C5H

You can also use the following table.

If using BIN 294, 294T, 286, 286T
XOR 2nd number (byte) with 43 Hex or use this table.

1st Digit | ------- | 2nd digit
0 <---> 4 | ------- | 0 <---> 3
1 <---> 5 | ------- | 1 <---> 2
2 <---> 6 | ------- | 2 <---> 1
3 <---> 7 | ------- | 4 <---> 7
8 <---> C | ------- | 5 <---> 6
9 <---> D | ------- | 6 <---> 5
A <---> E | ------- | 8 <---> B
B <---> F | ------- | 9 <---> A
E <---> A | ------- | C <---> F
F <---> B | ------- | D <---> E

If using BIN 293 and 293T
XOR 2nd number (byte) with C5 Hex or use this table

1st Digit | ------- | 2nd digit
0 <---> C | ------- | 0 <---> 5
1 <---> D | ------- | 1 <---> 4
2 <---> E | ------- | 2 <---> 7
3 <---> F | ------- | 3 <---> 6
4 <---> 8 | ------- | 8 <---> D
5 <---> 9 | ------- | 9 <---> C
6 <---> A | ------- | A <---> F
7 <---> B | ------- | B <---> E
Estrella has suggested above the use of Windows Calculator. It is available from Start/Programs/accessories/calculator.
Choose Scientific calculator, and then choose HEX in the scientific calculator.

You can use a scientific calculator.
 

Gold Member
Username: Nydas

Post Number: 3886
Registered: Jun-06
Posted earlier today by
htiek Bronze Member
Username: Flu_guy

Hi Nalin et al

I already posted this piece in the "How to find new keys" thread, but I thought I would quote it here as well, because this is where it really belongs, hope nobody minds.

I have a FLU running 286T,have been using the method posted by Nalin for some time now and find that it works very well.
Personally, I don't bother to turn the autoroll on, as the method still works even with it off. The trouble is that if, (being forgetful), I don't switch the autoroll off, before watching TV, the corrected keys will end up corrupted again, by the autoroll, after just a few minutes of watching!
 

New member
Username: Miamihitman09

Post Number: 2
Registered: Sep-07
2700a pansat. the parental control will not light up. I can not get the 2700a to work.What did I do? Please Please help. I reset the factory default!thanks}}
 

Platinum Member
Username: Lklives

Post Number: 12243
Registered: Jan-06
eric ...DO NOT DOUBLRE POST SAME QUESTION...input some channels (do a SCAN) before U would need any parental controls...lmao

Obviously U have NOT done ANY reading...
 

Bronze Member
Username: Flu_guy

Post Number: 24
Registered: Aug-07
No, not a lawyer. . .
 

Bronze Member
Username: Bluegillbill

Post Number: 20
Registered: Sep-06
LK & NALIN just got my veiwsat ultra do have to have a smart card to start
 

New member
Username: Rajp_92

Post Number: 2
Registered: Mar-07
hey can u please tell me if there is an autoroll option fortec reciever or pansat and if there is can u please give me the site.
 

Silver Member
Username: Viruscauser

Leesburg, Georgia

Post Number: 306
Registered: Mar-07
No autorolling bin for the 2500 boxes. You could try the jvvh conversion of the box and then you'd have autoroll.
 

New member
Username: Rajp_92

Post Number: 3
Registered: Mar-07
how do i do that
 

Platinum Member
Username: Lklives

Post Number: 12259
Registered: Jan-06
KEEP your head up your azz and hope someone is a Saint and will help U...cause its posted here 1000 times how to do it!
 

Bronze Member
Username: Bluegillbill

Post Number: 21
Registered: Sep-06
can anyone tell me the first steps to take on setup of viewsatultra do i need to flash or not
 

Gold Member
Username: Nydas

Post Number: 3892
Registered: Jun-06
LK: Get out of this thread. You don't like Pansat 2500 and you are here deliberately to ruin this thread. I will NOT allow it.
 

Gold Member
Username: Nydas

Post Number: 3893
Registered: Jun-06
bluegillbilll : Please start another thread for your question.
 

Platinum Member
Username: Lklives

Post Number: 12273
Registered: Jan-06
I will NOT allow it...ROTFLMAO....listen to this....FUUUUUUCCCK YOOOU!...raghead!
 

Gold Member
Username: Nydas

Post Number: 3900
Registered: Jun-06
If you have Pansat 2500 or clone of it or FLU, the 2nd number of key 00 and Key 01 does not come through at the time of autoroll. Keys willcome in even if the autoroll is off.

Let the autoroll work till the 200-300% stops and is off the screen. Then go in and you will change the 2nd number of both keys. If you can't get to Internet or do not want to wait. You can change these two numbers, using your Windows calculator or a scientific calculator

For 286, 286T, 289, 289T 294, 294T BINs
Real_2nd_number = autorolled_2nd_number XOR 43H

For 293 and 293T BINs
Real_2nd_number = autorolled_2nd_number XOR C5H

You can also use the following table.

If using BIN 294, 294T, 286, 286T
XOR 2nd number (byte) with 43 Hex or use this table.

1st Digit | ------- | 2nd digit
0 <---> 4 | ------- | 0 <---> 3
1 <---> 5 | ------- | 1 <---> 2
2 <---> 6 | ------- | 2 <---> 1
3 <---> 7 | ------- | 4 <---> 7
8 <---> C | ------- | 5 <---> 6
9 <---> D | ------- | 6 <---> 5
A <---> E | ------- | 8 <---> B
B <---> F | ------- | 9 <---> A
E <---> A | ------- | C <---> F
F <---> B | ------- | D <---> E

If using BIN 293 and 293T
XOR 2nd number (byte) with C5 Hex or use this table

1st Digit | ------- | 2nd digit
0 <---> C | ------- | 0 <---> 5
1 <---> D | ------- | 1 <---> 4
2 <---> E | ------- | 2 <---> 7
3 <---> F | ------- | 3 <---> 6
4 <---> 8 | ------- | 8 <---> D
5 <---> 9 | ------- | 9 <---> C
6 <---> A | ------- | A <---> F
7 <---> B | ------- | B <---> E
Estrella has suggested above the use of Windows Calculator. It is available from Start/Programs/accessories/calculator.
Choose Scientific calculator, and then choose HEX in the scientific calculator.

You can use a scientific calculator.
 

Gold Member
Username: Nydas

Post Number: 3901
Registered: Jun-06
Posted earlier by
htiek Bronze Member
Username: Flu_guy

Hi Nalin et al

I already posted this piece in the "How to find new keys" thread, but I thought I would quote it here as well, because this is where it really belongs, hope nobody minds.

I have a FLU running 286T,have been using the method posted by Nalin for some time now and find that it works very well.
Personally, I don't bother to turn the autoroll on, as the method still works even with it off. The trouble is that if, (being forgetful), I don't switch the autoroll off, before watching TV, the corrected keys will end up corrupted again, by the autoroll, after just a few minutes of watching!
 

Platinum Member
Username: Lklives

Post Number: 12276
Registered: Jan-06
Nalin Nyda
Gold Member
Username: Nydas

Post Number: 3886
Registered: Jun-06
Posted on Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 06:16 pm:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Posted earlier today by
htiek Bronze Member
Username: Flu_guy

Hi Nalin et al

I already posted this piece in the "How to find new keys" thread, but I thought I would quote it here as well, because this is where it really belongs, hope nobody minds.

I have a FLU running 286T,have been using the method posted by Nalin for some time now and find that it works very well.
Personally, I don't bother to turn the autoroll on, as the method still works even with it off. The trouble is that if, (being forgetful), I don't switch the autoroll off, before watching TV, the corrected keys will end up corrupted again, by the autoroll, after just a few minutes of watching!
 

New member
Username: Cpreatty

Post Number: 8
Registered: Aug-06
Hi Nalin, would you help me please?
 

New member
Username: Cpreatty

Post Number: 9
Registered: Aug-06
I have a Clone pansat 2500 and I try to change to Pansat 2700 but my laptop doesn't have a serial port DB9. And I buy an adapter to change the serial port to USB but I don't put the bin to the Pansat. I use the Blacklist updater 1.4 Mmmm what did you recomend to me?
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