Future of fta?


Silver Member
Username: Timscarlet


Post Number: 249
Registered: Feb-05
Hello, i heard rumours of the future of fta is only a couple of years, and that is it.

once ATT has bought completely dish network, and another company gets directv, they are all going to fiber optics, and getting rid of satellite tv.
is this true?

someone that lives out in the boonies, will not have access to directv or dish network, only the big c-band satellites and ku-band satellites.

just a rumour i have heard from fta installers here.

Silver Member
Username: Tigger_woods

Post Number: 121
Registered: Jun-07
FTA installers????

I guess I am a FTA installer...I do all my own dish setups. So a guy can install a fta setup, does not mean he knows anything else

I would be quite pleased if it lasted 2 moore years.

Your info about the end of the 18 inch satellite dishes is BOGUS.

Platinum Member
Username: Lklives

Post Number: 11791
Registered: Jan-06
Tim... U post bogus crap all the time...and at all different sites too...

Gold Member
Username: Tapeman

New York City in-HD, NY

Post Number: 1381
Registered: Oct-06
- DN and DTV as well as many other services are all in Ku band which is small dish 12GHz this won't go away for many decades to come.

- Fiber optic is a great threat for satellites but will never eliminate it . Infact KU band Satellites will always be a constant companion to any broadcast services thru out the century. Free to Air will always be around.

- PTA maybe eliminated on DN and BEV within few weeks but will pup up on other Satellite service provider. This will be constant cat and mouse chase.

Silver Member
Username: Runnerguy


Post Number: 584
Registered: Sep-06
C&P from "The King" :
All providers broadcast standard defintion 4:3 as MPEG-2 for Video and AC3 for Audio both A/V industry standards even for DVD players and DVD discs that we all use. But DTV predates these standards they use a similar encoding modulation. They use QPSK instead of MPEG-2. Both encoding schemes use almost 50:1. This is an area that I know very well because I do this for a living.

Let say a hockey game of about 2 hours video taped on a digital format like DVcam if they broadcast it as is it will take about 30GB of digital video broadcast DVB. Where as if you encode to MPEG-2 & AC3 it will be down to 3G byte 10:1. Also encoding frame by frame requires compression in Mega pixels per frame similar to your digital photo camera 5MP or 6MP.
Now that it is encoded you need to decode it back so you need a decoder.

No Manufacturer that makes generic decoders like to bother with equipment that receives only QPSK the current encoding modulation for DTV instead of MPEG-2 and AC3 the current industry standards for SD by all providers.
But this doesn't mean they are safe forever may be for SD 4:3 standard broadcast. But for MPEG-4 HD is another ball game???
All providers today use MPEG-4 for HD

Any dish can point to their SATs 110 or 119 etc.
But 2 primary things you must have
- Decoder that can decode QPSK
- Keys for their conditional access (DSS Videoguard)

Therefore there is a lot more to see in HDTV for future FTA
No electronics code that can't be broken. It will be broken.

Gold Member
Username: Tapeman

New York City in-HD, NY

Post Number: 1382
Registered: Oct-06
This is not the same topic

Tim talking about rumours Satellite in general relaced by fiber optic

Yo dialed the wrong number

Silver Member
Username: Runnerguy


Post Number: 585
Registered: Sep-06
My response was in regard to the first sentence in this thread: "Hello, i heard rumours of the future of fta is only a couple of years, and that is it" My C&P reiforces the thought of a perpetual FTA in some form. ei. HDTV or DTV in this case.

Silver Member
Username: Amex

Post Number: 587
Registered: Nov-06
Careful with that wording, .zulu
Nobody messes with King..........


Silver Member
Username: Donnie1973

Post Number: 726
Registered: May-06
the biggest market for DN and DTV are the remote areas. I cant see them phasing out their biggest market. If they go fiber, then they are cable tv.
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