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Cable or sat??

 

Bronze Member
Username: Hockeys_back

Post Number: 50
Registered: Oct-05
Just got my 50" samsung plasma, and can't decide on cable or satellite HD.

any suggestions..........
 

Silver Member
Username: Tapeman

New York, NY

Post Number: 905
Registered: Oct-06
I suggest i/o cable
You can get phone, internet, HD cable TV all for about $100

Expect many changes in 2007,2008 concerning HD broadcast equipement. Cable is the least expensive solution with no contract to sign.

Also order a TVIO/DVR
But nothing yet in MPEG-4 they are all using MPEG-2 and this is one of the main reasons I won't recommend buying the equipement with Satellite services. It is better to rent them from Cable for $5 to $6 a month.

Second choice will be Verizon FIOS again all 3 for about $100.

don't get me wrong Satellite is best quality today especially DTV and DN but contract for 18 months to 2 years is a bit too much during these rapid changes in HD telvesion broadcast.

Another inexpensive methode is HDTV antenna:
Read my thread starting post# 614
https://www.ecoustics.com/electronics/forum/home-video/330353.html

Ask questions here in this thread
Best of luck for your HD choice

King
 

Silver Member
Username: Formerly_fx

Dallas, Tx

Post Number: 254
Registered: Mar-06
"Expect many changes in 2007,2008 concerning HD broadcast equipement."

Actually don't ecpect any changes in broadcast equipment. For many many years to come the only broadcasts available will be in 480i, (480p very rarely) 720p and 1080i. Do not hold your breath waiting for 1080p broadcasts, King will be dead and buried long before that happens.

xvxvxvx
 

Silver Member
Username: Tapeman

New York, NY

Post Number: 979
Registered: Oct-06
The guy is asking what is a better choice Cable or Satellite

Sorry Mr. Hockey
Too much cartoon can effect some replies


Off Topic
Sorry for Toronto and Monteral will be out tonight By NY Islenders
But I'm a big Rangers Fan
See ya at the Playoffs Hockey is Back
 

Silver Member
Username: Alright_boy

Post Number: 134
Registered: Jan-07
King, what is your best guess as to when they will go to MPEG-4? I've heard so many conflicting reports.
 

Silver Member
Username: Tapeman

New York, NY

Post Number: 999
Registered: Oct-06
Who will go to MPEG-4
In broadcast
HD is in MPEG-4
SD in MPEG-2

Some DVRs and Tivos still use MPEG-2 to record HD until they standarize either HD or Blu-ray
Direct TV use lower HD resolution than 1920x1080i to save bandwidth but still in MPEG-4

I hope this answer your question
 

Silver Member
Username: Formerly_fx

Dallas, Tx

Post Number: 262
Registered: Mar-06
Time to correct more bad information. Broadcast data from the broadcasters (CBS, ABC, NBC, FOX and so on) is not compressed using any compression algorithim like MPEG2 or MPEG4, so King is misleading in his response, again. Now the SAT companies rebroadcast using data compression, some (but not many) cable channels are compressed.

Besides bandwidth is more important in regard to quality than either MPEG2 or MPEG4.

xvxvxvx
 

Silver Member
Username: Tapeman

New York, NY

Post Number: 1000
Registered: Oct-06
Are you now explaining how compression works?
I do this for a living.

Go see a doctor. Get yourself checked buddy don't ignore.
 

Silver Member
Username: Formerly_fx

Dallas, Tx

Post Number: 263
Registered: Mar-06
I am not offering a tutorial on compression, just correcting your assertion that television data is transmitted (broadcast) in a compressed format, it is not. What does you being a sat company installer have to do with any of the posts you make anyway?

xvxvxvx
 

Gold Member
Username: Tapeman

New York, NY

Post Number: 1001
Registered: Oct-06
Listen scoob
You sound like a nice guy
I should of not said what I got above.
I'm really sorry about it.

I do truely know this stuff very well.
I got over 50 people work under me.
So many high tech staff calling me to explain how these things work in a simple down to earth explaination.
Did it occur to you that I might be telling you the truth.
Compression is not the same as lowering resolution.

Compression in Mega pixel (like photo camera 5M or 6M)
Resolution is a frame size like 1920x1080 or 1440x1080
Encoding is both compression and frame size

Form either QPSK or MPEG or 8PSK
For HD they use MPEG-4 (8PSK)
For SD they use MPEG-2
(QPSK is for DTV instead of MPEG-2)
p= 60 frames per second
i= 30 frames per second
NTSC is 30 frames per second
PAL is 25 frames per second

every second goes by on TVscreen (for each frame)
You watched 1440x1080 or up to 1920x1080

No hard feelings (please trust me on what I say)
 

Silver Member
Username: Alright_boy

Post Number: 152
Registered: Jan-07
Great answer. Thanks a lot.
 

Silver Member
Username: Formerly_fx

Dallas, Tx

Post Number: 264
Registered: Mar-06
No hard feelings from me I hope you feel the same. As for your last post in this thread I agree with it completely. What I disagreed with as I stated above is that the initial broadcast feeds that got out OTA and the one that is captured by the Sat companies and cable companies for retransmission has no compression and maximum bandwidth unless the local broadcast station chooses to multicast simultaneous digital channels which will decrease the bandwidth per channel added.

Compression techniques such as MPEG2 and MPEG4 only matter during either retransmission or when encoding/ripping to DVD's.

xvxvxvx
 

Silver Member
Username: Alright_boy

Post Number: 157
Registered: Jan-07
fx, you old av dog. Just like the old days. Really appreciate your perspective on these things.
 

New member
Username: Jacobkevin

Austin, Texas United States

Post Number: 2
Registered: Jan-18
Its really depends. Both have there ups and downs like satellite got effective on peak hours and on the other site cable have their disadvantages to like if it got damage by something now you have to wait for the service men. Imo its all depends on the service which company or retailer gives you but you should try (link at the last) . because i found them on internet and they are new in this bussiness they probably gives you good services thanks http://cabletvpack.com/
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