just want to thank all the helpful people on this forum. Quick question. Loaded the last newest bin end of Nov. and have only had to enter new keys about 3 times. Still using it. From time to time my receiver zaps and searches for new keys and I must re-update my time setting to view program guide. Is this normal for the receiver. It is only minor inconveniece just curious. Oh, by the way, I no longer receive the t*-lan* channel but have new naughty channel added never received before. Assuming this is because I tried to adjust my sat for better reception of Echo7. Only receiving 74% quality and about 60% for other. It works but when I channel scan get duplicate channels. No biggie just curious though. You people have been exceptionally helpful thanks again. GO BEARS!!