LK im am sitting here right now watching DN 247 245 243 and 241 but in the evening they go out freeze up or tile i was just wondering why they work in the day and not the night ty
Oct. 20th USA Court Ruling. NO DISTANT NETWORK CHANNELS STARTING as of Dec; the first.CHANNELS 241,242,243,244,245,246,247 & 248.USA Court Ruling does not apply to Mexico & Canada.
U GUYS ARE STILL TALKING APPLES AND ORANGES, I THINK...SIMPLE FACT...THEY ARE GONE IN US!...ALL SPOTBEAMED NOW TO SMALL GEOGRAPHICAL AREAS.,..NOT EVEN RURAL AREAS CAN GET THEM..
in fact a senator from Michigan is fighting the court thru Congress to get them back for his people who live in the UP Northern Michigan!
U tell me!...DN is NOT sending the signals anymore on channels 242-248 (Distant Networks LA-NY)TPs that U can receive...it was due to a court order and appeal (October, effective 1 Dec) which they DN (echostar) lost...then DN tried to circumvent it by leasing TPs/sats to NPS who were selling them to subscribers and maintained the signals for those Distant DN network channels...now NPD was stopped bt Decisionmark...
With EchoStar being forced to turn its back to the 800,000-or-so DISH Network subscribers that had been receiving its distant network signals, the company was holding out for some legislative relief that never came. But now that the blackout has reached across the entire country, and certain constituents are being affected, one Congressman has sponsored a bill designed to settle the dispute and turn the signals back on.
Because rural residents - specifically those in northern Michigan - have lost access to their distant network signals, Congressman Bart Stupak (D-Mich.) has signed onto legislation that would allow a settlement of the dispute that is blocking DISH from carrying the out-of-market channels. According to a release from Stupak's office, the legislation would make clear that the court has the authority to accept any settlement reached between the networks, broadcasters and the satellite company allowing individual agreements for DISH to provide network programming.
While "we cannot allow DISH Network to break the law, this legislation would help allow a balanced solution that upholds the law, but does not penalize rural television viewers," Stupak said. "This legislation does not guarantee a solution, but it at least gives the court authority to accept any agreements between the networks, the broadcasters and DISH."
Stupak said that his constituents who lost their network signals due to the dispute may have other options - namely cable or DIRECTV -but that those services are not always available. The Congressman said he would continue to work with his colleagues for a solution "that upholds the law, but does not penalize rural television viewers," - especially in Michigan.
In related news, National Programming Service - the company offering distant network signals to alienated DISH subs - is now facing problems of its own for trying to provide the service recently taken from EchoStar. Last week, NPS was forced to stop connecting customers to the out-of-market signals because Cedar Rapids-based Decisionmark - the company maintaining white-area household databases - stopped processing the company's clearance requests. The move by Decisionmark to withhold its data from NPS keeps the satellite company from determining potential customers' eligibility to receive the distant nets.
According to a court filing, NPS President Mike Mountford said that the broadcasters are strong-arming Decisionmark claiming the service it's providing violates the court's ruling against EchoStar and if continued would face contempt proceedings. The broadcasters "have launched the legal equivalent of total war against NPS, with all the secondary effects and destruction that such implies," the company wrote.
Decisionmark VP of Operations Herb Skoog told SkyREPORT "there is nothing Decisionmark can comment on regarding this situation," and attempts to reach Mountford were unsuccessful. As of press time, EchoStar had not answered requests for comment.
well all that you typed or pasted I am still watching all east coast channels sorry that your not not trying to act like a jerk about it but i have all the channels and ready for football on sunday
Maybe people who live on the west coast can't get east coast channels and vice versa because I'm not getting any of the east coast channels I used to get but I'm getting all the west coast channels.
jojo....the channels are now ONLY spotbeamed, which means U must live in that local area to receiver the signals..they are NO longer "Distant" national Locals networks..this is VERY plain and simple..
anyone who doesn't understand, go read at.... http://ekb.dbstalk.com/dishlist.htm
12/15/06
Anyone who "moved" to Los Angeles to get networks... SURPRISE! Los Angeles ABC, CBS, NBC, and Fox local channels (Channels 242, 244, 246, 248 and mirrored on channels 8000-8003) moved from tp 11 to tp 3 SPOT BEAM 5 at 119°. IOW if you do not live in Southern, CA, you cannot get these channels any more. (ANON/Scott G at Satelliteguys.US). iShop channel 229 moved from tp 3 to tp 16 at 110° (ANON) TEEZ channel 487 moved from tp 16 to tp 3 at 110° (ANON)
more info here since 11-25 http://ekb.dbstalk.com/listlogs.htm
I'm in michigan and i get the west on plastic but not my fta. i still dont understand that one? Please explain. it cant be a blackout string type a thing. no need for them in fta everythings wide open isnt it?
FTA or plastic, it doesn't matter...FTA is NOT "wide open", it has some limitations, and NO tiers to add or update..use to be that 242-248 channels and ALL locals were "aio" , but no more.....FTA is more like an old DTV 3M with restricted locals and some channels missing based upon the "activation" file, and the sub U used!
that might make cent$ i wasnt looking that direction. never subbed, though i am privately cloned. i dont like aio sh1t. plus ive been pumping right along. good for me i guess. thanks LK. widening my horizon.
