Starchoice LNBF for FTA

 

HeavenBent
Unregistered guest
Can anybody tell me what the specs are for the LNBF that comes with the Starchoice 26/27 inch dish? It has 2 outputs and is not the old beer can style LNB.

I need them as I hope to get some FTA channels outta this thing...

I need the Freq, and the LO settings, and switch settings, and such.

Thanks All
 

Hell Sent
Unregistered guest
Can't use starchoice LNBs for Dishnet if that is what you're fta is for. You can use the starchoice dish. Change the LNB to circular polarity LNB's, yours are linear which can get other types of birds (ku) just not echostar. Check the thread saying "This Is Weird what do you think?" to see Thill1951's setup, Thill might be able to tell you the specs on LNBs if you are looking at doing ku with your existing setup.
 

Bronze Member
Username: Thill1951akalk

Post Number: 19
Registered: Oct-05
Circular & Linear LNB's: What's the difference?

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OK everyone, put your polarizing sunglasses on.

What's the difference?
Answer: About -3dB or half the signal level.

Now take your sunglasses off. Notice how bright it is in here? The difference in brightness is an example of using the wrong lnb type.

Circular and Linear polarization refer to the characteristics of the radio wave that is transmitted by the satellite towards your dish/LNB. Below are links to visual comparisons of Circular (Left or Right-hand) and Linear (Vertical or Horizontal) polarization.
http://www.lyngsat.c</a> o m/echo3.html
Nimiq 2 @82.0°W http://www.lyngsat.c</a> o m/nimiq2.html
Nimiq 1/3 @91.0°W http://www.lyngsat.com/nimiq1.html
EchoStar 6/8 @110.0°W http://www.lyngsat.com/110west.html
EchoStar 7 @119.0°W http://www.lyngsat.com/echo7.html
EchoStar 1/2 @148.0°W http://www.lyngsat.com/148west.html

How do I know they are circularly polarized?
If you click on any one of the links for the satellites above you will notice that under the first column labeled as "Freq. Tp" you will find one of the following single letter designations:

"R" = right-hand (=circular polarization)
"L" = left-hand (=circular polarization)

So what about linear polarization?
Linear polarization refers to a wave of radio signal rotating in a single plane. Think of an approaching helicopter as the helicopter's main rotor is moving towards you. It is rotating in a single, horizontal plane. The same approaching helicopter's smaller rear rotor is rotating in a single, vertical plane. In our satellite case it can be either in the "H"orizontal or "V"ertical plane.

The following example satellites (visable in N.America) are transmitting with a linear polarized signal:

SBS 6 @74.0°W http://www.lyngsat.com/sbs6.html
AMC 5 @79.0°W http://www.lyngsat.com/amc5.html
AMC 9 @85.0°W http://www.lyngsat.com/amc9.html
IA 6 @93.0°W http://www.lyngsat.com/ia6.html
IA 5 @97.0°W http://www.lyngsat.com/ia5.html
AMC 1 @103.0°W http://www.lyngsat.com/amc1.html
AMC 2 at 105.0°W http://www.lyngsat.com/amc2.html
EchoStar 9 @121.0°W http://www.lyngsat.com/echo9ia13.html

Again, under the first column labeled as "Freq. Tp" you will find one of the following single letter designations:

"V" = vertical (=linear polarization)
"H" = horizontal (=linear polarization)

Now that you understand the difference between the two satellite polarization types please put your polarizing sunglasses back on.

Hmmm, a little harder to read this right? Well, that's what happens to your receiver when you try to use a linear polarized LNB to receive a circular polarized satellite signal and vis-a-versa. About a 50% loss of signal!

Armed with the invaluable information you now possess, by using this link http://www.lyngsat.com/america.html you can determine for yourself what type of LNB you will need for each satellite.

If you need a circular polarized LNB look for words describing it as "DSS" or "DBS" or "circular" or a combination of these terms.

If you need a linear polarized LNB look for words describing it as "FSS" or "FTA" or "linear" or a combination of these terms (FYI: All Universal LNB's are linear LNB's).
 

Bronze Member
Username: Thill1951akalk

Post Number: 20
Registered: Oct-05
Quote:
...you could use linear LNB to get circular signal with 50% signal lost.



You will need a large dish to compensate for this loss.


Quote:
...you can't use circular LNB to get linear signal.


Technically incorrect. Trying to receive linear polarized signals with a circular polarized lnb (antenna) is possible with the same 3dB/50% loss of signal.

The actual reason why you most likely cannot receive linear signals with circular lnb's is because most all "DSS" circular polarized lnb's are incapable of receiving the frequecies at which linear FSS signals occur:

Standard FSS LNB (11.7-12.2 GHz)
-------->DSS LNB (12.2-12.75 GHz)

Universal FSS LNB (10.7-12.75 GHz) <-- has wide bandwidth
 

daylaman
Unregistered guest
"thill1951"
Would you tell me if we can use circular LNB which was design for 18 inch dish, in the 30 inch dish to reccive circular signal?
Thanks
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