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Unregistered guest | I have a hlr4667w that the bulb just blew. The part number for the existing bulb is BP96-00823A (315.00). If I do a search on one of the parts sites it says use replacement bulb bp96-00826a (199.00). Anybody know the difference and will the cheaper one work. The 00823A is a ORSAM bulb? Thanks. |
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Bronze Member Username: Dlp4mePost Number: 78 Registered: May-05 | That lamp should be covered under the factory warranty. It's too new not to be. They cover the entire set for 1 year. 1 800 SAMSUNG Prompts 2-1-3-1. They will set up a local service call. You will be much better off with a Phillips! BP96-00826A LAMP ASSY L3,LAMP SERVICE,PHILIPS 120W $199.99 http://www.samsungparts.com Let us know your hours on the old one. Mute + 1 + 8 + 2 + Power. Says "Loading Factory". Arrow down to "Option" and press Enter. Reset your hour meter after checking. Power off to exit the service menu. |
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Unregistered guest | I thought the bp96-00826A would work also so thats the one I ordered. It does not fit properly? I will check on the hours but I guess very few. I have only had the set for 3 months!!! |
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Silver Member Username: Tombo777Post Number: 419 Registered: Jul-05 | To put the over priced lamps into perepective: Would you buy a $20,000 car if you needed a $2000 brake job every year or two? and would you pay $4000 for an EW in addition on the same car? Now there the perspective I used when deciding against DLP and RPLCD. When you look at it that way it does seem kind of rediculous. A car has way more more moving and expensive parts and complicated computer electronics,audio systems etc and then is operated in all kinds of weather, rain extreme heat,snow and on a variety of road conditions yet the worthless EW cost a smaller percentage of the purchase price then on these TVs. A single part can cost more then a whole TV. A TV operates in a coddled stationary climate controlled environment for a few hours a day, yet the EWs cost in many cases 25% of the purchase price. Either the EW is a total waste (Which I believe all are) and a huge profit (yep) based on scare tactics (the most effective advertising is) OR the sets are inclined to have a lot of issues....Neither of which is a good thing, |
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Unregistered guest | Mr. Bong that was helpful. |
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Silver Member Username: Tombo777Post Number: 420 Registered: Jul-05 | Hopefully to those "on the fence" reading through these threads. |
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Bronze Member Username: Dlp4mePost Number: 81 Registered: May-05 | Phillip, Why did you order a lamp when it's covered under warranty? Yes, it will work. I hope you were being sarcastic to that as$hole, tom bong! Go to hell, tom! Shipping damage occurs! |
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Unregistered guest | Yeah I've read what he has to say and have formulated my own opinion which I have learned how to keep to myself. Opinion are like .... you know the rest. I needed a bulb fast!! I live in the country! And no I can't get it to work. The bp96-00826A does not slide in all the way and the rear cover does not fit back properly? Any Ideas? |
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Bronze Member Username: Dlp4mePost Number: 85 Registered: May-05 | The glass lamps might be interchangeable. Very strange, though. The set is this years model and it should have just one lamp housing type. Samsung shows that lamp to be the one. How did you diagnose it was a lamp failure? Sometimes you can re-seat a lamp and it will fire up. I would call Samsung anyway. It's their responsibility. |
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Unregistered guest | I heard the bulb pop! That is why I ordered that lamp because Samsungparts shows it to be the correct one. I might try interchanging the lamps. |
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Bronze Member Username: Dlp4mePost Number: 87 Registered: May-05 | Those are Ultra High Pressure Mercury Gas Arc lamps. There is no filiment, just two electrodes that support the arc through mercury gas under very high pressure. What does it look like? I've never heard of one making a sound. Are you sure something else didn't pop? (capicitor) Smell anything? Very strange!!! |
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Unregistered guest | No smell. When I pulled the lamp assy out the bulb was shattered and the glass in the front was cracked. My bulb is an ORSAM which I am slowly finding out is a different type of bulb than the Phillips. When I look in lamp compartment I see stickers saying ORSAM housing. I don't know why the parts pages are saying one part and the tv sticker is a different one. The glass is not interchangeable! |
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Bronze Member Username: Dlp4mePost Number: 91 Registered: May-05 | I would make Samsung replace the set pronto with a model that uses the Phillips lamp only. It has become a health concern with an inferior mercury gas lamp having had a catastrophic failure. Sounds like a production run ran out of Phillips lamps and another lamp was retrofitted. Sounds really screwed up to me. I WOULD'NT KEEP THE SET! |
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Unregistered guest | Samsung customer support does not know why I have a OSRAM (Sylvania made) bulb. Their computers show the 00826A part number but I told them it doesn't fit!! The product specialist has to get with the technical specialist to figure it out. Go figure! Will keep you updated! |
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Bronze Member Username: Dlp4mePost Number: 92 Registered: May-05 | I would call back and ask for the: Executive Customer Relations Dept. Demand a quick resolution of a replacement set that has a Phillips lamp. Be very persistant! You don't want an oncore performance like that again. |
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Silver Member Username: Tombo777Post Number: 431 Registered: Jul-05 | Demand your money back. Thats the ONLY demand that will cause the Manufacturers to stop laughing at ya all as you feed from their trough of plenty. |
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Unregistered guest | For those of you following this thread. Or just DLP4me, since he's the only one to respond. Here is the response I just received from Samsung regarding the lamp issue: " I got word back from the parts department about the bulb price issues. As you already know, the correct part number and bulb is the one that came out of your TV. The one listed on J&J is basically for a different bulb version of your TV. (i.e, 2 bulb designs for the same TV). Unfortunately, you got the TV that has the significantly more expensive bulb. I spoke with an engineer who assured me that they are working on getting the price of the bulb much lower than it is now, much closer to the $200 price tag of the Philips bulb. It seems different contracts with different companies resulted in 2 very differently priced bulbs. " What do you think. Try a new bulb that fits this TV and see what happens or raise cain?! From the research I've done so far it seems that the only difference is the manufacture of the bulb, Sylvania vs Phillips. I have seen nothing negative about either. |
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Silver Member Username: Tombo777Post Number: 433 Registered: Jul-05 | GO figure..Samsung They do not even have consistancy in their Same models!! This is great stuff people. Read and learn. Don't raise Cain, They won't respond. Just spend the money. You bought the farm....now its time to buy the cows. |
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Bronze Member Username: Dlp4mePost Number: 96 Registered: May-05 | Well...the Sylvania exploded! Not cool! I'll stick to my previous reccommendation. Having fun tom? You can go straight back to hell! I'm sure that's where you came from. |
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Silver Member Username: Tombo777Post Number: 437 Registered: Jul-05 | Keep defending the indefensable. Its humorous to read. BTW YEs I am having a Ball. Beats watching Swamp Buggy racing in HD. |
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Silver Member Username: Dlp4mePost Number: 101 Registered: May-05 | Are you missing your favorite show? |
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Silver Member Username: Tombo777Post Number: 440 Registered: Jul-05 | Thats the show that was on Best Buys HD station on thier Tvs...What a hell of a way to convince people they need to go High Definition...LOL |
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Unregistered guest | Don't you have anything better to do YOUNG TOM. We are all grown ups here, I think, so let us make our own informed decisions and STOP trying to inflict your own outdated opinion on us. I enjoy viewing my large, lite, HD DLP even if the bulb is currently a problem. Stick with your outdated CRT and keep sucking on that Bong! |
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Hero sandwich Unregistered guest | Funny, he never has uttered one peep about the Panasonic lamp life issue. I think his agenda is showing. Perhaps his daddy got his nuts shot off in the korean war or something. Luckily the bullet lodged in the uterus of a pig or we would never have had little Tommy. |
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Silver Member Username: Tombo777Post Number: 446 Registered: Jul-05 | Phillip Phillip..I am not inflicting my opinion on you oersonally although I do think it is rather noble if a bit self centered of you to speak for every other person in the universe. If my opinion is not to your liking ignore it and move on, Do you really think Im going to say to myself"Gee I better shut up...the Great Phillip has spoken for the masees" Really now,Although you seem to have an enormous opinion of your own relavance.......it sure escapes me. Oh and Im real proud you feel grown up and beyond all this....Why don't you do the grown up thing and ignore "pests" like me? HEr I have spoke volumes abouty your little petition and class action thread to Panasonic and have directed those on the fence in BOTH DLP and RPLCD to read those posts...even the Sony WEGA where many are getting spider cracks in their screens..... BTW Your insult only serves to validate my opinion....For that I thank you HEro!! |
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Silver Member Username: Dlp4mePost Number: 107 Registered: May-05 | You come across as a smartass arrogant pr!ck. How many true listeners do you think that attracts? Intellectualy impotent is a good definition for you, tom. |
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Silver Member Username: Tombo777Post Number: 457 Registered: Jul-05 | I don't care about "attracting" listeners. They can listen or not. Its THEIR choice. Just like it's mine not listen to those who revel in this technology......Well actually I acn't much hear them through all the screams for help. Call me what you like...I have heard it all. It really does not faze me. |
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To Those that say Unregistered guest | You guys sound like a bunch of 5 year olds. How about burying the hatchet guys and focus on helping people with issues? There are pluses, and minuses on both sides, each type of technology having it's own strengths and weaknesses. While I agree to a certain extent that issues need to be exposed (whatever they are) to potential buyers, at some point the personal preferences on BOTH sides needs to be dropped... and the persons posting here focus on "helping" people that come here asking for help, instead of throwing insults back and forth on a personal level. |
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Silver Member Username: Tombo777Post Number: 462 Registered: Jul-05 | I am helping. I helping those on the fence undestand an alternate view point and encourage them to read the forums and make their own choices. I have said over and again take my opinion and others, put it with what you already know and take action. But there are those who want to silence other opinion and oofer rebuttal to opinion that does not jive with theior own experience and that is their right. The reader will make the final decision. Some have decided to walk away from the technology at a closer look>Some decide they will not be affexted by the issues on these boards. I AM affected by these issues. There are just too many of the SAME. Some of the whiners here should have the sense of a 5 year old. They might have done some research and not bought inot the salesmen and manufacturer's misrepresentations. |
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Silver Member Username: Dlp4mePost Number: 111 Registered: May-05 | Which would be fine, tom, if you were telling the truth. You have made some grouped generalizations and have muddied the water with your bullshit. |
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Silver Member Username: Tombo777Post Number: 464 Registered: Jul-05 | I do not have the ax to grind here. You on the other hand have a who box of axes to grind. Im beginning toi think you are involved in the sales of this technology. That has to be it. No one would defend against one lone voice with such ferocity except for two reasons. 1. They sell them 2. They are trying to convince themselves they made the right choice 3. Misery loves company? and wants other to join up. Pick a number! |
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Silver Member Username: Dlp4mePost Number: 113 Registered: May-05 | Just countering your obvious bullshit, tom. It might not be so obvious to others. That's my only service. "I do not have the ax to grind" That's because you're too busy swinging it! LOL |
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Silver Member Username: Tombo777Post Number: 467 Registered: Jul-05 | I think what is NOT obvious to other sis the EXPENSE involved with this technology and the issues and compromises they will HAVE to make once they make that expense...and more expenses every year or two. Thats whats not so obvious around here...But then again it is if peoplread between the lines and the screams for help..and the loss of use while many wait for lamps... Yeah THATS whats not so obvious. |
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Amused Unregistered guest | I bet that DLP4me! has stock shares in texas instruments being a former employee and all. he wants people to buy DLP so that the stock can soar and he will then cash in. |
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Silver Member Username: Dlp4mePost Number: 115 Registered: May-05 | Stick to one user name, tom! |
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To Those that say Unregistered guest | Amused, I was sort of thinking the same thing. That he has a vested financal interest.... Or he's a shill for one of the mfg's.. |
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Silver Member Username: Tombo777Post Number: 475 Registered: Jul-05 | He had better cash in to pay for those lamps and replace the TV when his wasteful extended warranty gets used up. Yeah DLP Im having conversations with myself. No one could possibly agree I may have apoint here. You are way too blinded by the eyestrain and rainbows you think you are not seeing!!! |
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Silver Member Username: Dlp4mePost Number: 123 Registered: May-05 | I wrote such a good opinion above that I would like to make an oncore presentation as often as necessary. You intellectualy impotent types are fun to mess with, tom! Since you seem to keep repeating yourself to stay in the forefront of the forum, let me assure you that I can do the same. There are over 5 million DLP's in service from over 75 makers, and you group a few glitches from two forums, form a shallow, narrow minded opinion, and crusade to pan a truly wonderful display revolution. You haven't even owned one yet, but they're all chopped liver to you. Your effort to compare CRT to lamp projector technology and then claim that consumable lamp failures in DLP's are proof of a flawed technology is absurd. I see where you whine about millions of flipping mirrors, but I can't find a failed DMD chip thread. You cry about spinning color wheels, but I can't find the failed color wheel thread, either. I see where you have grouped Panasonic LCD lamp failures and Sony LCD display failures in with DLP to form your opinions. Honest objectivity is absent from your determinations. You may have convinced yourself that DLP is not one of the highest quality displays in the history of display technology and that's fine. Preaching your non-objective bulshit opinions on others to the extent that you have (455 posts since July) is a whole new twisted motivation that many folks will find disturbing. Perhaps you should consult a professional shrink about this bizzar obsession of yours. I'm all for anyone choosing the product they want. Makes no difference to me. Until D-ILA LCOS is a faster refreshing proven technology, I'm of the opinion that the DLP display is the absolute best available on the market today. It's a brilliant, sharp, clear, accurately colorful experience with the right signal put to it. It can't even be matched by anything out there in my opinion. DLP is the preferred projection technology of professional Cinemas. They have billions invested to display content the way that producers and directors intended. Having a mini version of that in my home has been an incredible pleasure for me. I highly reccommend that anyone interested in having the very best in home theater consider a beautiful DLP display of their choice. Compliment that with a quality surround sound system and pop some corn. It doesn't get any better! |
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Silver Member Username: Tombo777Post Number: 483 Registered: Jul-05 | LOL this HAS to be your parting shot....you have gone into cut and paste mode just like the last guy who fell on his sword. No more words? Well Perhaps Monday at work your bosses or former coworkers at Texas Instruments can give you some more pointers on how to deal with detractors... Or Not. |
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Silver Member Username: Dlp4mePost Number: 131 Registered: May-05 | LOL |
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To Those that say Unregistered guest | I think DLP4me! is a SHILL. SHILL= Someone who works for a company that cruises the Internet forums doing "damage control", but says they are not associated with any company. A SHILL I guess could also be someone that has a vested financial interest, such as someone who owned stock, or had a business or whatever to keep the gravy ride from ending. |
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Silver Member Username: Dlp4mePost Number: 153 Registered: May-05 | ROTFLOL! |
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DLPdoesRock Unregistered guest | Wow. I came on here searching for information just in general about DLP 'problems' because I was curious about part costs just in case a problem came up, since I didn't buy the $400 5 year extended warranty from Fry's. Why? Because those warranties are created to MAKE MONEY. Meaning, they are betting that in a period of 5 years you will have no greater than $500 worth of issues on that T.V. They are showing that statistically, they have already proven that the failure rate on those is quite low. How do they do those stats? These products sit in the R&D of these companies for 10 years before they touch the market. I read about DLP in 1994 when TI first came up with the chip and showed it at a show. Now as for all this banter. I totally agree with DLP4me! The only problem is he let himself get baited with bong's weed intake and desire to just bash on DLP technology for the sake of scaring people away from it. What the hell is bong's agenda? I have a DLP and LOVE it. I would pay $500 to repair the thing, because it's WORTH it. The only reason I didn't get the warranty is I asked them how much a bulb was...and they told me it was guaranteed to go out in 5 years...and I was like ...ok, $270 for the bulb or $500 for the warranty. Forget the warranty and I'll buy replacement as I need it. I knew what I was getting into with the technology because it is common knowledge about how it works and limitations. Shipping damage does occur occasionally...so you are covered by warranty. Use it! The bottom line is, NONE of these technologies on the higher end are void of defects or sacrifices. Someone that wants to complain about DLP strikes me as someone who really hasn't sat down and REALLY enjoyed it or appreciate the technology. It KICKS *** with my 1080i cable box and I love it. It is also damn light and I have all 50 inches of it suspended in the air in an alcove. Best money I ever spent. Bong...go get a job where you don't have to be a cynical cheap skate. Revel in technology and enjoy it. Life is too short. By the way, I've had this T.V. for 3 years now and not a single problem. If it has a problem after 5 years, then my opinion is so does any T.V., computer, or whatever of any technology. Welcome to semiconductor limited life. That part is a reality too. Could be statistically 5 years, 10 years, 15 years. I'm sure there will be another technology in 5 years which is superior to this one. This is what superior now. Spend your life waiting and you may die before you enjoy it. |
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Bronze Member Username: Helpful_smurfPost Number: 99 Registered: Jun-05 | Word to all you just posted. And here's some good news for you, Tom Bong's latest identity has been banned as well. We can just keep playing whack a mole with him now, whenever he pops up a quick word to the Mod and poof there he goes. So hopefully you'll be able to enjoy the board and share your knowledge without having to shout over the crazy street preacher like we have had to do for the last few months. Welcome |
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Bronze Member Username: Wearenotalone69Post Number: 90 Registered: Aug-05 | RE: Tom Bong's latest identity has been banned as well. That is GOOD NEWS indeed. Tom Bong AKA: TomBong Fred Bailey I think he may be as well posting under the name: Derp de Derp de Derp Sounds sort of like a bong post https://www.ecoustics.com/cgi-bin/bbs/show.pl?tpc=2&post=475943#POST475943 |
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Bronze Member Username: Wearenotalone69Post Number: 91 Registered: Aug-05 | To DLPdoesRock, I agree with everything you say, but if a lamp is $270, and the EW is $500 I'd buy the EW in case any other issues pop up. A service call is very expensive: https://www.ecoustics.com/cgi-bin/bbs/show.pl?tpc=2&post=474384#POST474384 Most "repairs" if needed are going to COST alot more than $500... IF needed. |
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Bronze Member Username: Wearenotalone69Post Number: 92 Registered: Aug-05 | Helpful_smurf, What is the best way to contact a mod... last time I tried the mod does not accept PM's.???? |
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Derp De Derp Derp Unregistered guest | There is an e-mail for the mod if you dig around, PM won't work. |
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Bronze Member Username: Wearenotalone69Post Number: 94 Registered: Aug-05 | Derp De Derp Derp Yep, saw that e-mail address, was hoping the PM function was back up and running to make it simple to report a bad post /user. On other boards there is a link right there in every post, you just click on it and it goes directly to a mod so they can take a look at it. Hmmmm..... Sort of surpising an Unregistered guest would know about that e-mail link... Are you sure you aren't Tom Bong? Haven't seen your user name come up AFAIK, until Bong got BANNED. You sure your not Tom Bong, AKA Fred Bailey, TomBong ???? |