thx...but wat would the LNB freq be? and is it possible to get KTV as well thru Echo 3 (because I can get KTV thru echo 9 now) also is it possible to get both echo 3 and 9 thru the same post? I'm sorry I'm bombarding you with questions (I'm new at this, please bare with me), but do I necessarily need to change the direction of my dish in order to use Echo 3 (my guess is yes, but then again, I don't knwo much abt this. Thanks a lot for ur help Cartier