I found this Fix for Pantec MultiStar somewhere today at DSSevolution/FTA Files/Pantec Files, use on ur own risk. This is the link, u might need to register: http://www.dssevolution.com/forums/showthread.php?p=419561#post419561 C&P Bl277 Bin Good for ALL w/Tivo , RTN and TVE It contains the clone safe routines and Tivo codes and RTN and TVE codes as well. It has been up and running for me for a few hoours now. I have cycled on and off reciver and gone into the EPG and menu to try to get it to kill and It Is safe as far as I can see.