No U cannot program a P5 card..can't glitch into it..
Nobody will succeed in a glitch attack that dumps the EEPROM! Not in Nagra 2 or the P4 or even the new telephone smart cards...the reason being that the designers of of smartcards are making the EEPROM accessible only through RSA encryption. Know the RSA key and you can request EEPROM contents. Don't know the RSA key, well then, you are out of luck. Buffer overlows and glitching attacks against the EEPROM won't work.
Think of the smartcard as a house. The front door is locked and only the person with the key can enter (RSA key). Now, think of the EEPROM as the cookie jar! In the old days, DTV would place the cookie jar(EEPROM) close to a window in the house. Then came along the cookie monster(hacker) who didn't have the RSA key to enter from the front door of the house. Instead, he broke the window and grabbed the cookies (glitch attack)! However, he had to break a lot of windows before finding the correct window (required a lot of experiments with clock timing and voltage amplitudes). Once he knew the correct window (determined exact clock glitch timing) he could just go to the next house (new smart card) and repeat the process.
Okay, so DTV got smart and moved the cookied jar to the basement where there are NO windows. Now, the cookie monster can still break all the windows (i.e. glitch attacks still work) but he can no longer reach the cookies because they are in the basement. Also, the cookie monster is too big to fit through any of the windows and get to the basement to get the cookies. As a further precaution, DTV boarded up all the windows in the house to prevent anyone from breaking them in the first place (no glitch attacks are possible at all). Dish on the other hand, just moved the cookie jar away from the windows and didn't feel it was necessary to board them up.
So how do Dish and DTV communicate with the cookie jar (EEPROM)? That is simple! They have a slave locked in the house who knows the RSA decrypt key. Dish and DTV send encrypted letters through the mail slot of the door. The slave decrypts them and follows the instructions. The most important message that Dish and DTV will request is: "Does this house have access to a particular video channel? If yes, produce the video keys". Okay, so when the slave gets this request, he goes and checks the cookie jar in the basement to see if the "channel tiers" exist. If so, the slave says "YES" and video decryption proceeds. If not, then the slave says "NO" and the video is not decrypted.
So what can the cookie monster do? With DTV, nothing because the windows have been completely boarded up. With Dish, he can still break the windows. And now, what he needs to do is hit the slave in the head with a rock (new kind of glitch attack) when he is making the decisions about whether to produce the video keys or not. If the cookie monster hits the slave in the head with the rock at the precise moment (clock glitches must be precisely timed), then it is possible the slave will get confused and produce the video keys when he shouldn't have!
But, you can all see that hitting the slave in the head with a rock is much, much, more difficult than just breaking the window and grabbing the cookies like in the past!
The only other option the cookie monster has now is to pay a building contractor millions of dollars to remove the house from its foundation (ie. microprobe the card with expensive scientific instruments) without destroying the basement! Then the cookie monster will finally have his jar of cookies (ie. EEPROM dump)!
lame?...obviously U cannot comprehend...it explains Dish and DTV hacking in terms for a 5 yr old...and U still do not comprehend!!! U call it lame!...pal, U are lame in the brain!
Yes I am lame in the brain..Tell me something I dont know.. I missed that part in the beggining (LK): "Nagra 2 or the P4 or even the new telephone smart cards."
A Mike W.Lee....Would U please be so nice and let me know what Iam....If U got some big SECRET Mike......Lets let everyone in on it....Or are U just full of it....Like those dumb azz pictures that U are posting all over this sight. U don't want to start sh*it with me dummy. Iam not here to be put down by U or anyone.....And in return I don't believe in putting down anyone. Mike I was reading on a thread that someone was saying that U live on this sight.....Is that right.....U need to get out and meet other people.....No one can be a island onto themself.
I was right all along....U are Mike W.Lee and Anonymous....How many more nicks do U use!!!!!!! U are nothing nore than a annoyance. I also hope someone cuts your fingers off....I would love to cut them off one by on......That way U can't annoy anyone.
SORRY....LK....I don't want to lose the help that I get from U....So I will stop it right now....I will even be the bigger man and tell Mike W. Lee I'm sorry. Mike I'm sorry... U win I'm done with this BS. LK is right again. I don't want to be like Knee grow 2.
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I guess ill just contact my cousin at DTV, I now she can hook me up with sumthing less than 10 $ a month.. 99$ for a cracker that doesnt work.. lol..thats stupid.
@ Mike.....U are a real piece of work, LK is right U su^^ck....U are like a ever-ready battery....U keep GOING and GOING and GOING....Mike....When is enough a enough!!!!!!!....U should go and play on the freeway.
@ Mike....Can U help me out!!!!...I got a viewsat 2000 xtreme....Can U tell me how come I can't get.....Los Angel...San Bernandin...San Dieg...and a few other channels!!!!!!!Could it be the area I live in !!!!!Also Mike I don't smoke anymore Jesus sat me FREE...A-men
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