Nagra2 will be totally in effect by Apr./05 for Expressview, and Aug./05 fo Dishnet, therefore rendering all nagra1 stream ird's useless including Fta. Will there be a hack, most likely NOT. Just like the P4-5s. Have you noticed how the dealers are pushing there hardware....the end is coming soon for all free tv.
There has been a lot of development on the nagra2 and many are saying that most current testing methods will go down. The only exceptions are EMU (computer CAM emulation) and the microcontroller based CAMs like the Atmega's that can have an ROM image update and have the processing power. The FTA and the older cards that don't have enough processing power or flash/EEPROM memory will fail to work any more. This is the ROM3 plastic cards and the older memory and processor limited cards like the old AVRs, etc.
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Fryguy, you seem to be fairly reliable and knowledgable about all things dish. Just want to see if I follow. Of the current forms of testing, the atmega is the most likely to survive the switch to the N2 card as far as you know?
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Fryguy has been one of the few honest and helpful guys around. Thanks and keep up the good work Fryguy.
That's what I gather from information. It's because of a few reasons; It has a large amount of memory (Flash/EEPROM) for future upgrades (can hold any type of ROM image that will fit in memory), Fast processing speeds (in terms of a small microcontroller) to execute code instructions, and that fact that its a microcontroller that all the I/O lines can be programmed.
The card has the capacity to emulate any CAM, in the past I had tested an Atmega128 card with an ROM 10 image instead of the usual ROM3. It was a bit odd to look at the system info screen and see DNA SP010 on the screen. It was a good demonstration of the power and capability of the Atmega128.
They can replace the cards all thy want, it will slow hacking down for the masses, for now. It's the nature of the systems conditional access control itself will always be flawed, just because the user has access to the physical code and hardware. It's the classic "If man made it, man can hack/crack it" mantra.
The only way to truly mess the system would be to build a new system all together. The star choice is a good example because of its CAM being built into the system board. Having no access to the CAM because it would certainly destroy the board doing so would be a huge deterrent effect itself! As long as you can analyze what comes from the new CAM and compare with the processes (processor and stream) on the IRD (that is known how that works now) then it's a matter of time before it's fully cracked again and to the masses.
Look at the DeCSS code for DVDs, that's a good example of "If you can play it, you can figure out how it works" its time consuming reverse engineering at work.
Grateful User, thanks *blushing* . Its very rare that anyone thanks anyone today and its more common to hear the "bad" before the "good". Its comments from people like yourself that keeps the world in peace.