Break In News "Sad News"

 

Silver Member
Username: Tapeman

New York, NY

Post Number: 890
Registered: Oct-06
Usually I don't do the news
But I'm very sad to report to you The following:

- DN had finally launched their massive upgrade
- They are moving very fast with a new strategy
- Right now they are running a parallel frequency with exact same program. I was able to intercept both frequencies. and man oh man they are very good.
- The primry service can be easly decyphered using spoof bin programs. But the parallel won't
Thi s can only mean one thing and one thing only.

I have been watching this activity for nearly 3 months and I did speak about it 3 weeks ago. In a thread called "Attention FTA users" What I see now is very fast development. THE END IS NEAR.

You guys know me I would never report false information. King would never post false claims. This is how you can check for yourself. At about 1000 kHz for every channel there is an identical channel with same exact EPG and subcode. If you do blind scan you'll get doubles of everything. One good channel other no audio or video or even signal. No new bin will solve it. This is different. TRUST ME

So the bottom line is how long until they turn off the light?. I say 2 weeks to 3 months as an educated guess depending on completing their unknown tests.

This report is for real. No joke no prank
Exactly how long is anyone's guess and can not be avoided. At least you got my notice.

Sincerly
King Tapeman
 

Gold Member
Username: Lklives

Post Number: 8516
Registered: Jan-06
Nobody is receiving card replacements!...a new stream would require a 6 month card replacement program to over 10 million subscribers!
 

Silver Member
Username: Tapeman

New York, NY

Post Number: 891
Registered: Oct-06
You are 100% correct
Different strategy this time without hardware change

I'm not saying can't get hacked to it
This could be their new game is to go back and forth instead of change keys that can be auto rolled in seconds.

How do you explain the mirror TPs 1000 Khz apart with identical chan name one with Audio & Video and signal the other without.

I also came across it few times I thought it was just near by feeds since they don't show on EPG with program data. Now they do. Believe me I do see something. Check it out for yourself.

Remember hardware cost them money but playing with the program is all software does not require hardware change. I think they just got smarter.
 

Gold Member
Username: Lklives

Post Number: 8518
Registered: Jan-06
if its only a software issue, then thats no biggie cause with FTA the eeproms are cloned the same as a Dishnet receiver..
 

Bronze Member
Username: Book77

Post Number: 51
Registered: May-06
KING Is it the same situation for bell?????
 

Silver Member
Username: Tapeman

New York, NY

Post Number: 895
Registered: Oct-06
I don't have bell
But I would assume so

Here is how you can also tell
If one or two channels completely disappeared and don't come back. It is their test.

I don't have inside information but you have to think on how it will be done. If I'm designing something for them I have to think as a designer.

Can't you see they gotten quite now
Do you think they just gave up and that is it.
 

Silver Member
Username: Tapeman

New York, NY

Post Number: 896
Registered: Oct-06
Time to tell everyone
There is 2 lines of frequencies side by side
One of them can be decoded the other WON'T
To avoid mass hysteria better be ready
I went to sleep 4:00am last night to be sure about it
It is real
 

Bronze Member
Username: Carcpl58

Post Number: 62
Registered: Oct-05
LK what is your take on this. It seems like it would have leaked out before now if it was true. Only one person knowing seems a little odd to me.
 

Gold Member
Username: Lklives

Post Number: 8522
Registered: Jan-06
I myself am not concerned at all..
 

Silver Member
Username: Tapeman

New York, NY

Post Number: 897
Registered: Oct-06
Me too
I got cable TV
 

Silver Member
Username: Crazy_greek

Post Number: 810
Registered: Jul-06

Count me in,make that, me three.
BTW King ,how was you able to intercept their parallel frequencies?
 

Silver Member
Username: Rtap

MIAMI, FL MIAMI

Post Number: 148
Registered: Jan-07
if it is true my props to you King. its just a matter of time when someone figures out file if they do change
 

Silver Member
Username: Tapeman

New York, NY

Post Number: 898
Registered: Oct-06
Frequency Scan Dial in Antenna setup
Anyone can do it
Are you being sarcastic?
 

Bronze Member
Username: Asplover

Post Number: 32
Registered: Jun-06
It is not a good news for sure. I hope they fail in their test and don't implement it at all.

But its just a hope.
 

Silver Member
Username: Tapeman

New York, NY

Post Number: 899
Registered: Oct-06
It won't stop PTA users but will shut them down for few days. Bins will resurface but cat and mouse chase on a different level.

What you should do in the mean time
- Get local antennas so you can at least watch locals.
- Record many of your favorite Movie shows tapes or DVDs hard Drives etc.
- Stock on water and food (only this part I'm joking)
 

Silver Member
Username: Cartier1

Post Number: 366
Registered: Feb-07
the end you are talking about does not exist and stop talking about the falling sky. the hit will come and soon and that's the best they can do .until nagra4 comes enjoy the tv it will be good for very long period of time.
the reason why dn change their mind is that the cost . they are not willing to spend money and then the bin will be hacked. so i will assure all fta user that you will be always watching tv free no matter whatttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt. the sky is not falling and let dn do what they wanna do .
 

Silver Member
Username: Hawaiian_time

Kanaka freak...

Post Number: 965
Registered: Apr-06
Tape all the p0rn first. Along with PPV those are usually at the top of the order for channels to go down.

Upload
 

Silver Member
Username: Birdwatcher

Post Number: 522
Registered: Jul-06
Ive enjoyed tv for along time, both boxes have paid for themselves 10 fold. I got a good deal and it was fun while it lasted, but i dont think anything is coming soon, if it does, well Ive got cable to. and I think that the geniuses will figure it out again. Trust in them, exept BL.
 

Silver Member
Username: Hawaiian_time

Kanaka freak...

Post Number: 967
Registered: Apr-06
Until they change hardware, most fta boxes should be able to stay in the game.
 

Silver Member
Username: Tapeman

New York, NY

Post Number: 901
Registered: Oct-06
But for those who are still in doubt please confirm that there is 2 streams maybe I'm wrong or hope that I'm wrong. So far no one confirmed what I see. I don't want to start rumors.
I do care about my reputation
 

Silver Member
Username: Dude123

Post Number: 983
Registered: Jul-06
no change on my side!
 

Bronze Member
Username: Lokbongtom

Post Number: 26
Registered: Jun-06
Don' t worry we have Korea and China the country where they can make a next generation FTA at 24 Hours ,and also in America we have hundred mods as Blacklist , Viewsat ect... they are all ready to face against this situation .

LBT
 

Silver Member
Username: Dude123

Post Number: 984
Registered: Jul-06
Ya I am not worried at all, I just wanted to give information on my end.
 

Silver Member
Username: Letmeon

Post Number: 141
Registered: Mar-06
Before a blind scan all channels should be deleted for the sat being Bscaned.
Also many times I have lost some channels, just delete and Blind scan and all are back. Channels do change tps etc. ....
 

Gold Member
Username: Satscanner

Beaversbush, Sportsmans P... Great White ...

Post Number: 1586
Registered: Nov-06
Ok,I'm hoarding all the good looking bit*ches and locking them in the basenent and garage,stocking the available space with keggers and smokes and weed,and cancelling my newspaper service,going on the roof with oll' faithful....my "AR 10".
 

Gold Member
Username: Lklives

Post Number: 8528
Registered: Jan-06
When DTV swapped cards from P3/HU to P4/D1 in April 2004 which ended the "testing" of DTV access cards, this was the scheduled shut down of channels which actually stayed the course..

This information comes directly from a DTV bulletin for employees. Channel shutdown is as follows starting on the 13th of April 2004. (lets hope DTV is like any big corporation and their days slip hehe) This really isn't a rumor... but since everyone is SO "know it all" on here.. I stuck it in here...

The header for this bulletin reads "Access Card Change-Out Channel Removal"


Date Channel
13 Music Choice 800-821, 823-838,840-850
13 Para Todos 406-450, 452-499
13 Fox Sports Regional Networks 620-654
13 Adult PPV 594, 596-598
13 HD 73-100
13 PPVs 100-199
14 Premiums East 501,202,507,513,520,522,528,537,544
14 Core 1 (news religion...) 366-377, 337-358
16 Regional Sports Networks 2 601-612
16 core2 (266-271, 282-287...) 266-271, 282-287, 291-295, 300-315
20 Seasonal Sports 700-799
20 Core 3 230-244, 297-298,276-279,207-212
21 Preimum Specialty 545-550, 523, 527-533,538-542
21 Core 4 248-265, 321-329, 333
22 Final1 822, 839, 595, 521, 514, 508, 505, 504, 503
23 Final2 402, 404, 335, 331, 317, 299, 296, 290, 280, 273, 224, 229, 203,204
27 Final3 360, 362, 245, 247, 202, 206
27 Locals/Distant Networks
 

New member
Username: Trump

Post Number: 1
Registered: Mar-07
I have been viewing this site for over a year.L.K. is one of the most reliable people for info. Also I don't blame him to tell people to read.I have used free to air,downloaded files and repaired receiver's just by reading info on these sites without asking questions that have been answord 100 times before
 

Gold Member
Username: Lklives

Post Number: 8529
Registered: Jan-06
TY John for the comments..U are 100% correct about READING!...U can learn it all yourself if U read at Reputable Dss sites..ocassionally people need help when an odd problem or a new DN or Bev tactic occurs, but generally if someone puts the effort and time to READ, then they will learn much faster and become self sufficient..

Congrats to U for your achievements..
 

New member
Username: Trump

Post Number: 2
Registered: Mar-07
LK I started out with a Pansat 2500 and like alot of people took it to a dealer to program. then one day I decided to learn to do it myself. I now have a viewsat xtreme which a a far better receiver.It's to bad people don't use this site to learn instead of trash talk
 

Silver Member
Username: Cartier1

Post Number: 368
Registered: Feb-07
hn Brigss
New member
Username: Trump

Post Number: 1
Registered: Mar-07

you have only 1 fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkking post . under which name were u in this site for a yearrrrrrrr. stop kissing lk assssssss . he is retarded and you sound like a faggggggggggggggggggggggg
 

New member
Username: Trump

Post Number: 3
Registered: Mar-07
cartier1 I said I have been viewing this site for over a year.You don't have to be registered.I search fta sites for info about repair and software. I rarely check this one out because all you find is bashing and not much else
 

Silver Member
Username: Thechiz2

Mars, Ur anis Mine

Post Number: 184
Registered: Apr-05
FAGGGGG

FEMALE AZZ GRABBER
 

Gold Member
Username: Lklives

Post Number: 8531
Registered: Jan-06
cartier...its people like U and a few others here that give this site a bad rep!
 

Silver Member
Username: Crazy_greek

Post Number: 813
Registered: Jul-06

Hey John
You said that viewing this Site OVER a YEAR
you have received all this knowledge by
reading and not asking questions.
Now don't you think with all your knowledge
it's time to give back and try to help others?
 

Gold Member
Username: Mc_sunny

Post Number: 1191
Registered: Feb-06
i am kind of in hurry didn't read all the post here....

Charlie been quiet for a while n everyone knows this...well everyone get ready there is something BIG COMING !!!! i gotta go right now i knew this since about 2 weeks but didn't get any chance to post it here as far i know something is big..so enjoy while we can
 

Silver Member
Username: Tapeman

New York, NY

Post Number: 903
Registered: Oct-06
A lot people think guessing is like pissing
I think not.

Whatever they R up2 it is with EPG has extra info to calcucalte one or 2 digits in keys some kind of over riding verifaction.

I also predict that they'll add an extra provider for PPV to seperate from regular monthly programming.

I also see big trap preventing blind scan on certain frequencies. I'm sure it is not the receiver. I won't make a fundamental mistake TRUST ME.

Like te big boss LK says "no biggie I'm not concerned"

I do see other things I just won't pass my guessing ideas since they are not paying me yet for these ideas. Maybe they don't need my ideas at all.


ha ha ha ....
I SEE DEAD TRANSPONDERS
 

Silver Member
Username: Ryersonarmy_1

RYERSON, @ PEACE ... What a...

Post Number: 299
Registered: Dec-06
Upload
 

Bronze Member
Username: Dirtystinkindemocrat

Post Number: 17
Registered: Feb-07
In a related note.....tmz.com is reporting that Howard Stern the radio shock jock is not...I REPEAT, IS NOT the father of Anna Nicole Smith`s baby.
 

Gold Member
Username: Lklives

Post Number: 8534
Registered: Jan-06
Larry and Howard were NOT even around when I was having an affair with Nicole...of course Howard or Larry are NOT the father!....I am!....and let me tell U, she was one tall glass of water and a handful!....LMAO
 

Gold Member
Username: Satscanner

Beaversbush, Sportsmans P... Great White ...

Post Number: 1607
Registered: Nov-06
I think ,Howard "K" Stern should go on the "Howard Stern Show" and get this and all the truth out once and for all!
 

Gold Member
Username: Satscanner

Beaversbush, Sportsmans P... Great White ...

Post Number: 1608
Registered: Nov-06
"Howard VS. Howard"......what a hoot!
 

Gold Member
Username: Satscanner

Beaversbush, Sportsmans P... Great White ...

Post Number: 1609
Registered: Nov-06
LK,Sorry for your lose,.......lol
 

Bronze Member
Username: Dirtystinkindemocrat

Post Number: 18
Registered: Feb-07
Hey LK

I guess with all those millions coming in you will probably go legit and get a sub?

Just kidding...FTA is legit,afterall the air belongs to us all.
 

Gold Member
Username: Lklives

Post Number: 8546
Registered: Jan-06
I always maintain a sub!..share with 11 others..
 

Silver Member
Username: Tapeman

New York, NY

Post Number: 932
Registered: Oct-06
LK
Are you telling me you order 12 receivers?
Yo don't think they'll get suspecious?
 

Gold Member
Username: Lklives

Post Number: 8554
Registered: Jan-06
have 12-16 on the account for past 6 years!...16 now, some are HD and some Tivo...no problem..platinum /premium sub...I started with 5, then added and deleted ...in fact added 1 receiver 3 weeks ago..I talk to customer service all the time when sometimes they need to reset a receiver, they don't care about the # of receivers..this is a DTV sub
 

Silver Member
Username: Tapeman

New York, NY

Post Number: 934
Registered: Oct-06
Well Don't advertise
They'll find you

We need ya here we don't wanna lose ya
 

Bronze Member
Username: Vic123

TorontoCanada

Post Number: 23
Registered: Jul-06
guy why cant i put in key all i c is FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF and cant get to where u use to enter keys manualy
 

Bronze Member
Username: Jbourikos

Post Number: 33
Registered: Oct-06
vic....im asumin u are usin a pansat :p
press exit once from the key menu and go to set default key...then go in and enter them or let it autoroll
 

Bronze Member
Username: Dirtystinkindemocrat

Post Number: 21
Registered: Feb-07
Any word on Harry Reid`s Aids, anyone? He was supposed to have stepped down yesterday. Also any word on the young boys well being after abuse from Harry??
 

Silver Member
Username: Tapeman

New York, NY

Post Number: 968
Registered: Oct-06
I wonder what DN is holding for PTA users?
 

Silver Member
Username: Hardrockstriker

Post Number: 731
Registered: Apr-06
Never mind DN, but what about Bev? Tonight, I had to manually input keys on Bev to see the fights but I did NOT turn off autoroll. I have never seen this type of ECM before. I have a C00lsat and I know that Pansat bins are buggy, but this is a new one on me.

Anyways what whatever one provider does the other follows. Something must be in the works, but as long as the encryption technology doesn't change, I'm not too worried.
 

Silver Member
Username: Tapeman

New York, NY

Post Number: 971
Registered: Oct-06
They play with the algorithm
That is easy
But I predict a nasty one by DN
They have been very quite for a while

I don't follow your question
You didn't turn off auto roll?
If you put keys manually how is that different from previous ECM?
I don't have BEV so I don't know what happened to BEV.
 

Bronze Member
Username: Grub

Post Number: 68
Registered: Nov-06
r u an idiot...or not?
 

Silver Member
Username: Hardrockstriker

Post Number: 732
Registered: Apr-06
Actually, never mind. I was too busy watching the UFC to check my Bev keys. But I just checked them a minute ago and they are the same keys from the last key change many hours ago. So the next time the keys change I will have to enter them again. I was just going on reports from others that the "keys are changing every 10 minutes" or so.

The upside is that no matter what DN throws our way, the code can be reverse engineered as the actual DN hardware has not changed at all. I'm not downplaying what you are saying King cause I have a feeling that you're correct on this matter. But I'm sure it's just a new form of convulusion for the coders to figure out.

Anyways thanks for keeping us posted. Your advice is always appreciated! :-)
 

Silver Member
Username: Tapeman

New York, NY

Post Number: 972
Registered: Oct-06
Does not sound like a major issue
Put the keys manually until they come up with new bin just like you did

I'm awaiting for DN hit
 

Silver Member
Username: Crazy_greek

Post Number: 843
Registered: Jul-06

Hey King
How is every thing going BUD?
I see by your posts that you don't sleep much?
You are waiting for the hit.
Why are you worry ? You have cable.
Let me say this to you. I don't think anyone
here is worried about any HITS, we have seen them come and will see them go.Big Business,
just like Football, Offense & Defense.
There is nothing to worry about.Saying all this,
no need for you to stay up all night, get some sleep BUD.
 

Silver Member
Username: Tapeman

New York, NY

Post Number: 975
Registered: Oct-06
Whow said I'm worried
I can't help it. I'm having fun
 

Silver Member
Username: Hardrockstriker

Post Number: 734
Registered: Apr-06
Just an update... keys for Bev changed this morning at 9 am and my C00lsat DID roll. Wierd.
 

Silver Member
Username: Tapeman

New York, NY

Post Number: 983
Registered: Oct-06
Something is fishy
DN didn't change keys
But I still sense some activities going on

Am I being paranoied here? or something is cooking?
 

Gold Member
Username: Satscanner

Beaversbush, Sportsmans P... Great White ...

Post Number: 1696
Registered: Nov-06
Bev was testing something for sure,there up to something no good.
 

Silver Member
Username: Hardrockstriker

Post Number: 735
Registered: Apr-06
C/P from Veracity @ Hashu (13 hours ago):

Bev added a Map call in key packets. Expect DN to follow. This is step 1 of a plan to exhaust resources of some older units. Once they start running multiple calls, it will get interesting. Cyphris is on it for VS and an A/R fix should be forthcoming soon. Till then, input keys (in the right place), turn of A/R, and watch tv

END C/P

So, it sounds like more dynamic routines will be used to complicate deciphering of keys.
 

New member
Username: Omen_2

Post Number: 4
Registered: Feb-07
"Attention FTA users"
THE END IS NEAR
King would never post false claims.
 

Silver Member
Username: Thunder_lightning

Post Number: 240
Registered: Feb-07
I heard that before THE END IS NEAR too many time already..if it end it end life go on..LOL
 

Silver Member
Username: Hardrockstriker

Post Number: 757
Registered: Apr-06
Until the encryption technology (Nagra2) changes to something better we'll (like the lot of us actually help out the coders! LOL) be able to easily counter whatever they throw our way.

Because the maproms are know by VS, their encryption is useless. The most that they can do is changed which maproms are used, or play with autoroll signatures by throwing in an extra maprom call or two.

They're just trying to increase the level of convolution. We're okay for a while. Unless...

King, what do you mean about DN launching a massive upgrade? Is this a card upgrade?

Card upgrades worry me.
 

Gold Member
Username: Satscanner

Beaversbush, Sportsmans P... Great White ...

Post Number: 1749
Registered: Nov-06
But if you use a cardless ird,the cam will have to be upgraded through software or a new card in the slot.I'm not worried until they swap out the cams again.But it might help redirect attention to dave's birds too.But I still would rather dn/bev,but add dave too!
 

Gold Member
Username: Tapeman

New York, NY

Post Number: 1022
Registered: Oct-06
"King, what do you mean about DN launching a massive upgrade? Is this a card upgrade?"

I don't know
If I have inside information I would of said it already
I don't expect hardware change any soon
One thing I expect to happen THEY HAVE TO KEEP THROWING SHELLS.
I wouldn't expect them to give-up easily.

- Some techs do secrete tests between 3AM and 5AM (it is not DN) on behalf of DN but also M-F operation
- They only change keys Mon to Friday
- They do key change between 8am to 6pm PST

These stupid gAsses if they hire me as a consultant I can make PTA users life misrable. It will require me to choose sides. I'm nutural however. So far I haven't receive any offers
I always prefer Counter hacking I'm only asking $1M

I guess they don't need my services. Well whoever is got my job is proven terrable I can do better job.
Their quitness can only mean they got it under control no need for King's Tests. I only wanted to say I do see some activities won't stop PTA any soon.
Enjoy your Free TV
 

Gold Member
Username: Satscanner

Beaversbush, Sportsmans P... Great White ...

Post Number: 1755
Registered: Nov-06
"FREE" ? Can't keep track of all the money in upgrading hardware,recievers,switches,remotes.But better than subscribing for it all!
 

Gold Member
Username: Tapeman

New York, NY

Post Number: 1037
Registered: Oct-06
Well if it ain't free
You should ask them for reimbursement
ha ha ha
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