HELP me BUILD A 6.1 CHANNEL system in $1200

 

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hi guys.. i am a newbe in the world of high level acoustics.i want help from all you friends to build me a bonechilling awsome surround sound system using 6.1 or higher amp and a good sub which can be felt at the same time heard.max amount $1200.please help me mix and match the system.i prefer harman kardon, denon , onkyo and yamaha amps.i cant make up on any speakers..please tell me all those components that u have heard and fit my max limit.... so pleaseeee help
 

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Username: Gman

Mt. Pleasant, SC

Post Number: 604
Registered: Dec-03
You are asking for a lot of performance for a complete system at $1200. How big is your room? Do you already have a DVD player or do you need that too?

I would start with a 5.1 speaker system, as the 6th center surround speaker you can always add at a later date and it isn't very important as it mostly provides matrixed sound mixed from other channels and is not a discrete separate channel.

Expect to pay at least $700 for a reasonable 5.1 speaker system at this budget, as you need a self-powered subwoofer. Then you will have to spend between $300-$400 for an AV surround receiver and the remainder on a dvd player.

You will need 8 ohm speakers (or a minimum of 6 ohm speakers, as receivers in this price range will not drive 4 ohm speakers with any reliability.
 

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Username: Rh1

Post Number: 81
Registered: Jun-04
I purchased a Kenwood Sovereign (VR570 model I think) from ecost.com for $480. I also bought Wharfedale Diamond center, Diamond 8.3 fronts, and Diamond 8.2 surrounds for a total of $550. This system sounds great, but sound is relative to the person who hears it. I believe anyone who listens to the Wharfedale speakers would enjoy them for the price. Read the review in this months What Hi-Fi Magazine, they received 5 stars and a best buy rating even when compared to speakers twice the price. I have never heard the Wharfedale subwoofer so I can't comment on it.
As far as receivers, I like my Kenwood but for $400-500 you can get a lot of different receivers that will perform pretty good and you can always add power amps at a later stage if the power of the receiver is not as much as you would like.
Or you can pick up Athena speakers from BestBuy for around the same price I paid for the Wharfedales. Good Luck!
 

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Username: Rh1

Post Number: 82
Registered: Jun-04
Check this website out...This would be a nice starter system too

http://www.cambridgesoundworks.com/store/category.cgi?category=ht_systemsrec%26i tem%3Dk1pk690zz&type=store
 

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hi man.. thanks for a quick reply.. well i will tell you more about what i am up to now.actually i am in india.and geting a high quality and big names in acoustics is difficult and costly here.i have kept dvd player out of this budget. so i have solely got 1200$ for amp, sub, speakers. i think a good amp is the heart of the system.. so i have almost finalised on yamaha rx-1400,7.1 sys. i heard good reviews about it.i heard that its available for 600$.cause thats how i have divided my budget.for the rest of 600$ i am looking at a good sub which can be felt,and rest 5 channels. i liked ur advice to add the sixth channel later on.so what do u think.. is yamaha a good option ??? i have kept it above hr avr-330,430,630 models.i dont know the performance of denon and onkyo models below 600$.concluding ... i guess a amp in a range of 500-600$ and surround speaker sys in the range of 600-700$.. in short i want help for u on deciding the best components according to my segmentation.. or you can gimme one of ur liking if u think that its better configured.. i seek ur advice, help and direction ... thanks
 

Anonymous
 
I just purchased the Kenwood KRF-X9080 for €500 (on EBay, it actually costs €700) wich is an excellent 7.1 (!) receiver. I connected a SoundBlaster Audigy2 (6.1/7.1 on creative speakers) to it (€230). This equipment is all THX-certified, that's kinda the best quality assurance on the hifi-market today. You could do without the audigy, if you have a standalone dvd-player (or intend to buy one). Anyway, that leaves you with aproximately €270 left for a decent speakersystem, and that is not that much, but should work for small rooms.
 

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hi vols..i will check if Wharfedale is available here.. u see thats my prob.. best buy and all dont deliver here.. anyways i will check with the dealers.. in case of amps the yamaha,denon and onkyo are more easily available here and i too think that they r a good option. well the prices can very easily be 20% more than the US prices.. so i will keep hunting this week and plz keep on writing too.. i will keep on checking about the options u all gimme. and please tell me about the sub ur using..u see i like the sub that can really pump up the bass thru ur spine....thanks
 

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Username: Gman

Mt. Pleasant, SC

Post Number: 607
Registered: Dec-03
As long as you get fairly efficient 8 ohm speakers (preferably 90db and higher, although you could probably live with 88db's, the most important part of a system (given adequate amplification) is the speakers--and by a large margin.

The difference between the amplification in low to mid-fi receivers is nominal. The biggest difference is probably in features and ease of remote usage. You would never hear the difference between amp sections that are within 20-30 watts of each other. But you will hear dramatic differences between many speakers and the speakers interactions with your room.

As long as you get a good self-powered subwoofer, the amount of power you need to drive efficient speakers with midrange and tweeters to very loud levels is very low. It is the woofers that require the big power---hence getting a self-powered subwoofer is a must in this system (and most systems).

I like the Yamaha 1400 at its price point, but if it means compromising significantly on speakers it isn't worth it.

A less expensive Onkyo or Yamaha may allow you to buy a better speaker package. Since you are located in India, the choice in speakers is probably much more limited than in the US.

As Harman Kardon Int'l owns JBL and Infinity speakers (besides their own line of receivers), you should try to listen to a JBL system within your budget. At this price you aren't going to get wall-shaking bass that goes down to 25hz or below, but if you are careful you should be able to get "clean" bass without too much distortion that mates well with the satellite or bookshelf speakers.
 

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Username: Rh1

Post Number: 85
Registered: Jun-04
sps...I have an older model Energy ES8 sub, energy makes a pretty good sub and you could pick a 8.2 (newer version) up on Ebay for about $150 on Ebay. I don't know if this lives up to your "bass thru your spine" requirement but it would be pretty darn loud in my opinion. You can also get Wharfedale speakers on Ebay if you are not able to get them elsewhere, that is where I bought mine ($550 us dollars new). Wharfedale is a British company so I would think that getting some sent to India would not be too much of a problem but I am in the U.S so what do I know :-)

These are truelly fine speakers in my opinion and I think that given your budget they would work well. Here's a listing for a used speaker package minus the sub on Ebay. This is the same system I have.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=60830%26item%3D5719395803 %26%26
 

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thats right mate... and i made a big blunder.. i miscalculated the cost of yamaha rx1400. i just called the dealers here .. they say its price is 800$.thats 150$ over the US price.so i guess i will have to keep the margin of 20% in the stuff..but its ok. and gregory what do u suggest in amp models. i guess 400$ range is best for me right now.i will check all posts and keep on hunting this week. harman kardon is readily available here but many suggested me against it..i'll cya now in 2 days... thanks for the invaluable advice...
and what about marantz sr5400
 

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Username: Rh1

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Registered: Jun-04
sps...Do you get the What HI-FI Magazine where you are? If you do check out the Buyer's Guide section for the Wharfedales, also look in the rear of the magazine for the sales ad that I told you about earlier. Here is the Ebay store where I bought my center channel from. This is all new equipment and they ship for free

http://stores.ebay.com/Accessory-Specialist_W0QQcolZ4QQdirZ1QQsojsZ0QQsotimedisp layZ2QQtZkm
 

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Username: Rh1

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sps...check out this months sound and vision magazine, they have a spread of entry level speaker home theater packages right in your price range. Pretty darn good information
 

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Username: Gman

Mt. Pleasant, SC

Post Number: 608
Registered: Dec-03
Vols is right--

Of the 3 systems listed, the JBL SCS300.7, the JBL even gives you 7 speakers plus a powered subwoofer for a list price of $699. Hopefully your dealer will give you at least 10% off.

The Energy system costs $800 and doesn't have as good a subwoofer and the HSU system is only sold in the US--not likely to have dealers in India, but is an amazing bargain at $499 in the USA for those on a strict budget.

 

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Username: Rh1

Post Number: 91
Registered: Jun-04
Gregory...thanks for the nice comment, I am new to this as well so it's nice to hear that I was right :-)
Your sentiments on the three systems is spot on in my opinion. I would think that he could probably get the HSU system shipped (not cheaply) to India but all in all he would still have a bargain of a deal on those speakers given their low cost.
Thank God for the interenet!
 

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Username: Rh1

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Registered: Jun-04
here's the manufacturer's page on the receiver I bought
http://www.kenwoodusa.com/product/product.jsp?productTypeId=55&sortBy=price&prod uctId=755
 

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wow.. guys thanks for all the support...
its really overwhelming..
thanks especially to u vols and gregory..
i am working on the advice and checking out my options..
thanks guys..
keep pouring in more of the latest stuff.
 

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Username: Rh1

Post Number: 122
Registered: Jun-04
Another magazine you can check out is the October issue of What Hi-Fi Magazine. They have buyer's guide for practically everything. It also contains a stellar review of the new Wharfedale Diamond 9.1 speakers due to hit stores in a month or so. You can also find more information on them by going to the manufacturers website at http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/
 

Anonymous
 
The one place you can get good speakers in India is
The Audio People

Located at:

#88, ANMOL PALANI, G.N. CHETTY ROAD
T. Nagar CHENNAI, 600017

INDIA

Contact: A.T. JALAL
Tel: 0091 44 521 25 999
Fax: 0091 44 521 25 899
Email: audiopeople@vsnl.net

Folks here have all the award winning brands, including Energy, Mordaunt-Short nad Klipsch.
http://www.audiopeople.net/
 

sps_2k1
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thanks a zillions anonymous...
but can u tell me some place in delhi.., cause i am based in north india..
looking forward for a reply
 

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Username: Gman

Mt. Pleasant, SC

Post Number: 622
Registered: Dec-03
Being in the US, I can't help you on that one. Let's hope there are some readers of this in India that can steer you to a good local dealership. Or at least a dealership not far away from you.

But you might try the various websites of the different companies. JBL may have their own website, but as they are owned by Harman International, you may try that website. You should be able to find all the websites you need by enterring the names in your browser. Most major manufacturers often have an area on their websites where they list dealerships in different countries.

But I definitely recommend spending more on the speakers and getting 6-8 ohm speakers, as even inexpensive surround receivers should have no problem driving them. And the more efficient the speakers (over 90 db's), the less you have to worry about the power of the amp section.

 

Anonymous
 
That's a tough one. I am not sure if you can find something in Delhi.Its not a place known for good quality electronics:-). I would suggest that you call the folks in Chennai I mentioned earlier and see if they can find you someone in Delhi or if they have the option of shipping some stuff to you. These guys seem to carry all the good stuff, so quality should not be an issue.
 

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Username: Pal

PuneIndia

Post Number: 48
Registered: Apr-04
sps

For Jamo and Denon
Cinebels
B-43, Greater Kailash I, New Delhi
51631853/54
Dealer in Delhi - 9810783799

For Yamaha, Mission, Cerwin Wega
Group ADR
33, National Park, Lajpat Nagar iV
Delhi
26229701,26229739, 26211085, 9810072921

For Definitive Technology
Trinity Sound & Vision
26215222, 26425222

For Harmon/Kardon, Infinity, JBL
Showroom opening in Delhi soon...
Greater Kailash I, Main Road
Opposite Sony World

i would strongly suggest u subscribe to AV Max magazine, which i guess is the only one in India, catering to ur AV needs.

And how it works here, is that most of the companies have their distributers in Mumbai (mostly), but if u contact them, they would give u contacts of their dealers in Delhi too (if any).

Me too am from Delhi, but currently in Pune and i made up my system here only this way.

All the best for ur system. In case u might need any help, u can write to me at manish_pal@hotmail.com

Manish
 

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Username: Pal

PuneIndia

Post Number: 49
Registered: Apr-04
ofcourse last but not the least...Onkyo u can get anywhere in Delhi...
 

sps_2k1
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thanks anonymous...
can u plz tell me some place in delhi cause i am based in north india..
thanks a lot.
 

sps_2k1
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thanks all u guys...
i used to read av max 2 yrs ago.. but have dis con the subscription.. anyways the options given by manish are far too many.. wow! thans a lot man.. so, i guess i am off on another field trip this week end. lol.
 

sps_2k1
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hi manish..,
plz tell me about ur system.. components and prices all.. actually i have a budget of 60,000 INR. also i dont want to rush at the moment for a cheap setup just for the sake of it.. i can lift my budget over time...(i am a student and the dough is the money saved from my scholarship..haha).so do tell me about ur stuff and preferences..
 

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Username: Pal

PuneIndia

Post Number: 50
Registered: Apr-04
well sps

first thing....my setup is purely stereo steup. cos right now full HT of this level is out of my reach too. but yes slowly i also might build it.

i have:
Speakers: B&W 602 S3 - 36,500
Amp: Nad 320BEE - 19,000
CD Player: Nad 521BEE - 16,500
Cassette Deck: Technics TR 272 - 11,000

As for the cost, this entire setup along with the Kimbre cable cost me somewhere around 85,000INR.
The problem here is, that since there are not many dealers here so you don't get much discounts forget about deals n stuff.

In case u want to cover up the entire 5.1 setup in 60,000, then u will have to go in the package products these people have to offer..i mean the HT packages like Sony n Onkyo have. But if u ask me..then ummmmmm rather have patience n save more and build up slowly.
Better have a good one when u putting in so much of money..and take my word for it..its worth it really..
 

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Username: Pal

PuneIndia

Post Number: 51
Registered: Apr-04
sps

just remembered....if u r in delhi, try visiting
Nakra Brothers
Shankar Mkt.
C.P.
Tel: 23413768

I have heard that these guys are into building these components for last 20 yrs and have real good reputation, and great prices.

I could not get a chance to visit them, but in case u get a chance do give it a try....
 

Anonymous
 
Question: Can i mix match speakers in my hometheater. Right now i have Onkyo Amp(150 rms) each channel with Wharfedale(Evolution)tower speakers. I am looking at adding center channel from either B&W or Polk. Is it possible to get a good match for my tower speakers or i have to go to Evolution.
Plz reply soon..!!!
 

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Username: Decibel

Post Number: 1
Registered: Nov-04
Related to the stuff above, I am from Bangalore and am interested in getting good Floor Standers and a matching 6.1 receiver for around $1500 to $2000.

Any suggestions for the speakers and the Receiver?
 

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Username: Pal

PuneIndia

Post Number: 52
Registered: Apr-04
Anshuman

You can maybe try taking some demos to find out what sound u like...maybe my opinion would be biased :-). But u can try Nad and PSB or B&W combo. As a stereo setup its working great for me....
u can also try the HK and JBL, though in comparison i did'nt like that sound...but then its a matter of personal choice..
what i would suggest u is take as many demos as u can in bangalore...and decide what comes in ur budget and what sound u tend to like more...
 

help4u2day
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to sps_2k1 Hi - I have a suggestion for you on buying fairly good sounding speakers from SONY .
I purchaced (9) of them for my denon 7.1 home theater setup and am extreemly happy with the quality and sound they produce.
You can get them at circuit city stores on sale for $24 dollars american all of the time, they regularly caust $30 dollars each.
to further improve there sound i replaced the tweeters with models that i found at PARTS EXPRESS, - partsexpress.com
i used AUDAX 1" titanium replacements $20 dollars each when i could afford to buy them.
 

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Username: Decibel

Post Number: 2
Registered: Nov-04
Thanks Manish

I've been doing just that for the past month. I kind of liked the B&W 603, but this streches the budget a lil bit I am still waiting for the dealer to get the 602.5. Choices here in Bangalore seem much more limited when compared to Bombay
 

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Username: Pal

PuneIndia

Post Number: 56
Registered: Apr-04
Did u by any chance demo Sonodyne, its Indian company only, calcutta based i think, but i've heard all praises abt them...
and they r not even expensive too...
 

ebirbal
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sps_2k1, see if you can somehow import a receiver... the difference could mean day and night. I got an Onkyo TX-NR801 for about INR 35K... and its retail price locally is about 1 Lakh! I understand this may not be possible, but if you can, then there's nothing like it. On the speaker front, *ALL* international brands are legally available here with warranty and all. In fact, Wharfedate is actually cheaper here than in the US ! Most of these Indian dealers also ship anywhere in India. Try www.designer-audio.com , http://www.shantanu.com etc. email me at "ebirbal at indiatimes dot com" for a recent price list for whatfedale sepeakers. I also hear the wharf diamond 9 series would arrive here by last week of november
 

sps_2k1
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hi friends..,
i havent been on this forum since long.. cause i had been surveying.. i checked out some brands .
i started with the onkyo..their amps the 501,601,801,901. their 800,900 amps are good but their speaker set sucks.. also the prices are too f***ing illogically high. the 601 was for 48000. then i checked out yamaha.. but the dealer didnt had the rx1400 or 2400. but he showed me some 550 .. type models. i was not amused.he had warfdale speakers too.. i hear they r cheap in price.
then i went to check denon.. boy was it good.!!
i loved the denon 3805.it was juz awsome but the dealer was askin for 95000. its US price comes to under 60000.
then i checked out the JAMO speakers .. they r really cool.. they churned out some good quality music and awsome bass.. but then that speaker 5.1 setup was over 1 lakh.(100000)
all the prices i mentioned are in indian rupee. dollar equivalent can be obtained by dividing by 48.
now that i am all the more confused , i juz dont know what to do.
importing a amp seems a good option but i will have to think about it.. i can save a hell lotta dough if i import it myself from a friend or relative.
then i can use all that extra money to buy better speakers.
i will check out more in the time to come and lets see what i finalise on buying..
so keep mailing friends.. and thanks ebirbal and manish
 

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Username: Pal

PuneIndia

Post Number: 59
Registered: Apr-04
sps
what i would advice you, would be build ur system in parts. I know these equipments are expensive over here, but then make sure, if u arrange for an import, the warranties are also covered for.
So maybe how u can go is, first build up a 2 channel setup, driven by a A/V receiver, later add on the speakers, when u have arranged for enough money.
what do u say....
 

cool_bamit
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I also have been struggling to get my world of silence to sound like the sound of music for the last 2 months now.

My need is also similar to sps but i m more than willing to follow the route suggested by manish.

Been thinking of getting a 7.1 receiver (for future expansions). An excellent pair of floor
standers (continuous power output 100-150 watts range). and if i can afford for now the surrounds, center and sub. The budget stands at 100K INR.

The best deal i have got till now is
Onkyo 502 [Receiver] : 38K
Onkyo 4600 {C/s] : 11K
Onkyo 107 [Sub] : 23K
Jamo E650 [Floor] : 34K
Post discounts the entire cost comes to around 80K. And if you add the cashback due to buying on card, you can knock off another 3-4K from the price. So net cost to me will come to around 75K. But after listening to the system, I think there is better sound available within my budget.


Anshuman, Can you please send me the list of outlets (with addresses) where i can try out the speakers and receiver brands in Bangalore at
(cool_bamit at rediffmail dot com)
 

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Username: Pal

PuneIndia

Post Number: 60
Registered: Apr-04
cool_bamit

First of all, don't go in for Onkyo speakers, no doubt the receivers are good ones but their speakers are not worth the system u looking for.
Also do try out NAD and HK too for ur receiver requirements....
 

sps_2k1
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yaa.. i totally agree with manish.. onkyo amp is ok but its speakers suck!! honest i checked them out and moved out of their shop flat...they are no good.
also bamit i suggest that u go for a good amp, maybe a onkyo model, but look for better deals in speakers and sub.
 

sps_2k1
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hi ebirbal,
i tried ur indiatimes account but the mail failed to deliver. i asked for the price list of the speakers that u got. plz mail it to me at sps_2k1 at yahoo dot com
thanks
 

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Hi Folks,

I have done some listening over the weekend for the following brands
- Acoustic Energy (Evo)
- Wharfedale (Diamond 8.4)
- JBL (Northbridge series-E80, E10, EC25, E150P)
- KEF (Coda)

Found Quad and B&W to be prohibitively expensive. Need info from veterans as to what amp would go well with this. Checked out Denon but somehow felt that the surround effect was not very enchanting with that.

Also would appreciate if you can point to some site where I can see audiophile opinions on these brands or can provide inputs yourselves.

sps,

if you can mail me at (cool_bamit at rediffmail dot com) i can get in touch with you about what you have explored in B'lore and we can share notes.

Cheers,
Amit
 

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I would like to buy a 5.1 channel Audio Music system with a Budget of @ Rs. 1.5 Lacs.
Where do you get the best deal in Yamaha A/V Recievers and which speakers are the best.
The Front should be very good for stereo listening
Details of the Speaker seller with a price indication if possible
 

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I would like to buy a 5.1 channel Audio Music system with a Budget of @ Rs. 1.5 Lacs.
Where do you get the best deal in Yamaha A/V Recievers and which speakers are the best.
The Front should be very good for stereo listening
Details of the Speaker seller with a price indication if possible
please send me a reply on planning.sstp@Ratnamani.com
 

ebirbal
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MSRandhawa, the best speakers are the ones your ears like best. With your budget, you have several options, but you need to decide the primary purpose of AV system - music or movies or both ? Depending on your choice, there are several AV receivers you should try - Onkyo, Denon, Nad, HK, Yamaha, etc. Do some listning tests and see what you like best - and enjoy !

BTW, this thread was started by sps, and its very rude to "hijack" his thread posting stuff not directly related to his querry. If you have a question, you should start your own thread. Please refrain from asking further questions in this thread.
 

Sai
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HI All

I have a sony 1300w O/p music system and a sonodyne active 60 w sub woofer ,the existing set up is, i gave o/p of my music system to sub woofer and from the subwoofer i had connected the sony speakers now i want to add 2 more speakers,
can somebody guide me how to do it ?

 

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Username: Sindhisai

Pearland, TX USA

Post Number: 1
Registered: Nov-04
Hello, Have been reading all your posts.
I was working on a tight budget myself.
would like to share what I built 2 years back and am enjoying it every single day.
Yamaha RXV1200 6.1, Boston acoustics system 10K(5 sats), boston acoustic PV800. All this for $1200.
I am in the market for tower speakers looking at B&W 602.5 and 603.
 

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Username: Sindhisai

Pearland, TX USA

Post Number: 2
Registered: Nov-04
Correction, PV800 and Boston acoustic system 10K for $1200 and Yamaha RXV1200 for $500. Bought it all from tweeters, cuase the sats were white and yamaha was demo. never faced a single problem. this was strictly for movies. The soun is so tight and the punch of the sub is felt in your guts. Esp U571 "charges in the water" :P. People get goosebumps when I demo. We love it. I have wired the second room from my Yamaha where I plan to put 2 speakers for music.
Hope this helps SPS.
others any thoughts ?
 

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Username: Buckcrazy

Post Number: 53
Registered: Nov-04
hey all desi folks out there glad to see U guys are keeping up with times eh i am in canada here and was taken back with the progress made in India about this av world Now it is great that our brothers can find these great systems locally now two points of advice any one who is spending hard earned rupees Denon is great in HT setup and NAD has best of both worlds and if UR importing it from US/Europe Pioneer Elite also gives great sound at cheap prices i have to say ONKYO is not honest in thier power ratings and has a safety circuit that cuts out power it only feeds about 50wpc so i would say stay away but that is me,one thing though over here it is a norm that u can bargain the price between 15-25 % i have not seen that happen there so true prices U can obtain is by takein US prices and takeing 20% off and then adding customs if u know how that should be a fair price or just give the equilent of us retail to the local dealer now as far as warranty goes most companies do not offer int'l warranty so local is good and how do u manage 110 volt systems on 240v that will be interesting to note and thanks someone brought up the name SONODYNE that brought memories of my teenage i had a system that i adored and my friends would come on over for hours to listen thanks keep it up guys
 

ebirbal
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You're right Baldev - India's come of age! In fact there are several Indian brands that could very well compete with multinational brands (Candence, Sonodyne, Lithos, Space, Pulz to name a few) - its a pity that many of us dont have faith in local brands

Coming to Onkyo - I am only too happy that it has a saftey protection circuit that cuts the power down - I dont want a fried speaker or amp under any condition. Is only too easy to short speaker wires while trying to experiment, moving stuff etc. Note that this protection circuit swings into action only when it detects a constant signal for several seconds - something that can only be reproduced under lab conditions or you are doing something really bad - you will *never* *ever* come across such situaton with real world music.
 

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Username: Raj

MumbaiIndia

Post Number: 1
Registered: Dec-04
Hi All,
Great to know that I'm not the only one who is facing these problems :-)
sps, I started my collection about 3 yrs back when my dad gifted me an Onkyo DS484 A/V receiver (cost him 35K!), played it with a pair of very old philips speakers... moved to B&W 601(28.5k) a year back and, now I'm looking to either add a sub or upgrade the amp to NAD. I suggest a similar approach to you too. Take your time and invest in one or two components at a time(you'll need to save for CD/DVD/SACD players as well!)

Can anyone tell me how can I get HSU/Velodyne subs in Mumbai? Basically I'm looking at good subs for music.
 

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Username: Buckcrazy

Post Number: 57
Registered: Nov-04
Hi Raj i feel sorry for U to dish out 28.5k that is about 900 cad they retail here at 625 about 19-20k but anyway they are great for music have fun thanks
 

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Just wanted to add my 2 bit.
On a shoestring budget I put together a Yamaha RXV 450 AV Receiver + Sony 307 DVD + Cerwin Vega AVS 5.1 speaker system. It all worked to under Rs.52,000 (near USD 1,200).

And I can't complain. My nest rocks! Had to tweak around a bit with the sub though. Am more into music than theatre thrills. Got good results on natural acoustic outputs like those of Al di Meola, Mike Oldfield, Menuhin etc.
 

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Just wanted to add my 2 bit.
On a shoestring budget I put together a Yamaha RXV 450 AV Receiver + Sony 307 DVD + Cerwin Wega AVS 5.1 speaker system. It all worked to under Rs.52,000 (near USD 1,200).

And I can't complain. My nest rocks! Had to tweak around a bit with the sub though. Am more into music than theatre thrills. Got good results on natural acoustic outputs like those of Al di Meola, Mike Oldfield, Menuhin etc.
 

Bronze Member
Username: Nuck

Parkhill, Ontario Canada

Post Number: 20
Registered: Dec-04
Sugato..with Cervin Vega's you get the bass, but anything else? Good for you!

Cheers
 

Sugato
Unregistered guest
actually u are right James - am thinking to swap it for Wharfedale Moviestar - only hitch is that it costs double!! :-(
 

Anonymous
 
iv seen a ad in thailand there are selling the cervin vega speaker-subwoofer set with a sherwood amp for 1200 us dollar. like to know obout thier performance in HT and music listening. thanks
 

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can anyone from India let me know where i can buy B&W Speakers in Bangalore?
 

Bronze Member
Username: Pal

PuneIndia

Post Number: 63
Registered: Apr-04
karthik

AudioVision India

2nd floor New Empire Cinema Building, Murzban Road, Fort
Mumbai,
Maharashtra, 400 001
Tel: +91 ( 22 ) 2200 - 4040
Fax: +91 ( 22 ) 2200 - 0909
Email: sales@audiovisionindia.com
Web: audiovisionindia.com

If u can contact them, these guys are the Authorized Distributor for B&W Speakers in India. They can let u know if they have any genuine sub-dealers in bangalore.

i'll try to find out other ppl, who sell B&W in Bangalore and let u know here...

enjoy ur music

Manish
 

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I found out B&W dealer in Bangalore (X Canvas Studio). I have narrowed down on the speakers

DM 603 S3 (L and R)
LCR 600 S3 (center)
DM 601 S3 (Surround)

Not sure of the sub. May be B&W ASW 600 or REL STRATA 5. REL is 68KRs and i dont find delears in Bangalore (only Chennai) REL is going to stretch my budget. Any comments appreciated.

Questions:
1. Do i go for "AV reveicer" or a "pre processor - amplifier" combo. As new technology blossoms each day, i can save my amplifier and change my pre processor if I go for "pre processor - amplifier" combo. Really confused here.
2. You get all kinds of receivers in India but are expensive. I have seen HK, Denon, Marantz, NAD, Rotel. Not sure of how to narrow it down.


 

Sugato
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Karthik, it is very dfficult to benchmark AVRs - Harman Kardon, Denon, Marantz, NAD and Rotel are all leading manufactures with their own niche/ patented technologies - especially in the DSP and power mgmt circuits they use. They are all good in their own ways. You may also consider Onkyo and Yamaha, as they are well serviced in India. I'll also suggest you check out Sherwood and Cambridge Audio.
 

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hi guys,im thinking of going in for the new sony ddw 860 home theatre in a box.pls advice if its the right choice in terms of future upgrades and the quality of sound and providing value for money.pls help in assembling a ht for >40k.
 

Bee
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can any one tell what is the price for
DM 603 S3
LCR 600 S3
DM 601 S3
in india-bangalore?

also i am thinking about Denon AVR 2105. will they match?
 

Bronze Member
Username: Pal

PuneIndia

Post Number: 65
Registered: Apr-04
DM 603S3: 65,900
LCR 600S3: 34,900
DM 601S3: 28,500

rest depends on how much u can negotiate !!
 

Bronze Member
Username: Pal

PuneIndia

Post Number: 66
Registered: Apr-04
Yes Denon should go fine with them...but u also try NAD, cos that pairs well with the B&Ws.
 

Mohit
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can anybody tell me what is the price of Harman Kardon AVR7300, DPR 1005 and DPR2005 in India. I'm in finland, and am planning to get one of these from here, if the price diff is too much.
TIA
Mohit
 

Jasdeep
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Guys,

Nice choices out there.

Audition Tannoy loudspeakers before finalising your choices. I bet you guys will be spell bound by their price to performance attitude.

Tannoy is one of the oldest loudspeaker manufacturer in the world with stunning ranges for residential, professional and studio range.

We are the official distributors for Tannoy, Krell and Velodyne for India, with dealer network across the country.

For more information contact me at jasdeep@tannoyindia.com

Regards,

Jasdeep

 

uma
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Hi Dudes,
Im planning to buy a nice home theatre sys at 25k bud and confused abt the choices whether i do go for Sony/Panasonic dvd sys available with dolby/pro ii/dts features ? or need to go for AV receiver,dvd player and speker sys !!
pls sugget me
How abt Yamaha Home Theatre System YHT-100 includes Digital Home Theater Receiver RXV-350 and Digital Home Theater 5.1-Channel Speaker Package NS-P100 RXV-350 ? and price ?
uma


 

Sugato
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Uma, Yamaha RXV 450 - it's 6.1 system (RXV 350 is 5.1) Plus some addl. DSP's - the price diff is marginal. With 450 you can match NS-P200 (6.1) speakers. But it's better to pick speakers of dedicated manufacturers - like JBL, Wharfedale, Definitive, Cerwin Vega, Sonodyne. A compo system would be more xpensive than HTiB - 25k (if in INR) is a tight budget for compo. Happy shopping m8!
 

MichaelMintah
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hello guys! i want to build my own small studio in my home. i have the room already. i need to know what to buy to make the studio. i mean i want to know the kind of equipment and instruments needed for this home studio. remember i don't have so much money but i can afford the less expensive home studio easily. just tell me buy this buy that and buys o and put all together to get the studio running for demos and stuff like that.
 

Rishi
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Hi guys,
Was a music buff till now before finally taking the plunge and started studying about assembling a sys. And to say the least, threads like these make very informative studying for me. Hope everyone get their compo within their budgets :-)
 

Anonymous
 
Hey guys, even I am from Delhi and looking for somethiing similar. I have ben looking around for building a multichannel component based system under INR 100,000 ($2000). I have been browsing the net for some time looking for this type of a discussion.

I had recently been to the AV Max Expo and I was extremely happy that I got to see and audition so many world-wide reputed brands under one-roof. Unfortunately I caught up with the action on the last day and hence could not make a purchase decision (I am a perfectionist and don't make purchase decisions easily)

This thread is informative. Thanks to all the participants and experts who have posted their experience here

I have posted a new thread too (https://www.ecoustics.com/electronics/forum/home-audio/130890.html). May I have your expertise at that please.

Regards,
Ranjeet Rain
 

Anonymous
 
Hi Uma,

I just had a look at an offer by Yamaha. It was a HTIB package. It would cost you about INR 30K. Its labeled YP1 if I remember it properly :-) Just go grab that system, its the best deal at about your budget. Never buy a Sony/Panasonic system if you have an ear for quality. Sony/Panasonic are good for people with moderate level of interest in music. Those system are nothing great once you push up the volume. I have auditioned the best available in India from these companies and I have to say that I wasn't impressed.

If you have an ear for quality, go for Yamaha/Denon/Harman Cardon (All available in Indian market and a little over your budget). But if you like it loud, i.e. need both power and quality, go for seperates. But that is gonna burn a big hole in your wallet.
 

Bronze Member
Username: Pal

PuneIndia

Post Number: 71
Registered: Apr-04
If your budget is limited and HTIB is the option, then consider Onkyo as well...its within the same price range...
 

Ranjeet Rain
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A model of HTIBs is being promoted big time in Indian markets by Onkyo is named Dominator. MRP INR 49K but you may fetch a deal under 40K. Another good one is - Enhancer, MRP INR 59K but again you can fetch it under 50K.

Another great system in that range is (my choice) Yamaha DHT-485DV. Very good system for the price.

Ranjeet Rain
 

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If I have a 5.1 channel receiver that puts out 100w of power per speaker, what would happen if i hook up 80w speakers to it?? how about 120w speakers? will any of that damage any compnents?
 

Bronze Member
Username: Pal

PuneIndia

Post Number: 73
Registered: Apr-04
kegewe for u...
https://www.ecoustics.com/electronics/forum/home-audio/131935.html

 

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Hi,

Can anybody tell me where can I buy NAD receiver and Lithos speakers in Bangalore?
 

Anonymous
 
NAD and Lithos. Little chance getting it. A better deal is to get it through a friend staying abroad. However, check with these stores. May be if you get lucky.

PRO FX GLOBAL THEATRE
Dynamic House. 64, Church Street,
Bangalore - 560 001

TEL: +91 80 558 7787
FAX: +91 80 559 4298

Ranjeet Rain
 

Bronze Member
Username: Pal

PuneIndia

Post Number: 75
Registered: Apr-04
Amit

NAD i am sure u can get in bangalore. I'll try to find out the address of some stores in Bangalore who sell NAD, otherwise u can get the number for NAD's Indian distributor from their website and he can tell u who stocks NADs in bangalore.
As for Lithos, even i had contacted them for a demo, but as of now, they r nowhere else apart from Mumbai. But if you contact them, then can send the speakers to u, only problem being, u cannot demo them. But i know people, who had talked to the guys at Lithos, and they had agreed that if u don't like the speakers, u can return them.
 

Anonymous
 
Hey buddy,

Check this store as well. They might have in stock.

Pro FX Ltd.
84, Barton Centre, M G Road
Bangalore, India 560 001
Phone: 91-80-25594440
Fax: 91-80-25594298

Ranjeet Rain
 

Pranab
Unregistered guest
,
Can you let me know how much a yamaha rx-v450 costs in india , preferably in Bangalore.

Well, I have bought one in uS to have it taken back, paid more since i wished to have a 220 Voltss amp ( was not interested in buying a converter for Burma Bazar ).

I hope you guys do not make me unhappy by quoting a lower price than what I paid out here.

Most importantly , are Cerwin Vega speakers available in Bangalore, how mucha E-76C costs. I am yet to buy it.

Thanks
Pranab
 

tidelpower
Unregistered guest
for Amit:
Lithos would NOT be available for demo. Am talking to those guys regularly. They will take back the product at a restocking fee but no demo options in Bang/chen/hyde. (I could travel to pick up my ear's desire you know!)
NAD in Bombay is available at Lakozy impex (check the add at NAD website).
In Bangalore, talk to Absolute phase (these ph nos look old to me)
ABSOLUTE PHASE # 48 Cubbon Road,
Bangalore TEL : (91)80-5591015 / FAX : (91) 80-5535668 / E-mail : absolutephase@yahoo.com
If u want to stretch your budget a bit, check out musical fidelity with the same dealer or at audio people, chennai. www.theaudiopeople.net.
happy hunting!
Btw, am looking for B&W 303 series or even the discontinued 302 series. any clues?
 

Bronze Member
Username: Pal

PuneIndia

Post Number: 80
Registered: Apr-04
DM 303 u can get in India, it should be around 17.5K + taxes. B&W's main distributor is in Mumbai, and they can tell u if they have a dealer in your city.

Their address:
AudioVision India
2nd floor New Empire Cinema Building, Murzban Road, Fort
Mumbai,
Maharashtra, 400 001
Tel: +91 ( 22 ) 2200 - 4040
Fax: +91 ( 22 ) 2200 - 0909
Email: sales@audiovisionindia.com
Web: audiovisionindia.com
 

New member
Username: Jeetu

Chennai, Tamilnadu

Post Number: 1
Registered: May-05
can somebody tell me the address of the dealer for Sonodyne in chennai....
 

Anonymous
 
Hi Jitendra,

Drop them a line here: http://www.sonodyne.com/conttxt.htm

They say they take about a day to revert back to you.

Ranjeet Rain
 

kishor san
Unregistered guest
i got denon avr 3805 & jamo speakers (d590)
i got 7.1 system still iam not able to oparate the same as prologic etc functions r hard to understand from manuals of avr 3805 can anybody help me?
 

kishor san
Unregistered guest
i mean i can oparate 5.1 but dvds can be played in 7.1 in avr 3805 so hoe to do it ? pl help
 

Anonymous
 
Hi Kishore,

Try starting a new thread and post the link here rather than make this thread difficult to load.

How many channels of actual output you get depends on the source media etc. You need to understand various encoding formats. Also, dont expect these manuals to be very friendly. You need to know the basics of connectivity etc in order to be able to utilize your system to the potential.

Ranjeet Rain
 

Anonymous
 
Contact details for Sonodyne dealer in Chennai:

Mr Abraham Varghese
Grace Sound Workz
# 132, 2nd floor
Sterling Road
Nungambakkam
Chennai 600034
Mobile: 9884041299
 

New member
Username: Younggunna6889

Chagrin Falls, Ohio U.S.

Post Number: 1
Registered: May-05
hey guys. I am a newcomer to the acustic industry and i have a decision to make about what system i am going to put into my 2004 Mitsubishi Lancer ES

either a Kicker System or a Adire Audio?

thanks
 

Unregistered guest
I'm building my Home theater, and have short listed Infocus4805 and Benq5120 for projection...
Jamo D590 of Towers,
Jamo D6 PTX for the rest of the speakers
and Marantz 7500 for A/V Receiver ...
any thoughts anybody...am i missing something?
 

New member
Username: Hsmraj

Post Number: 1
Registered: May-05
I am looking to getting a receiver for a new HT system. The Reference 2 speakers from www.av123.com have an impedence of 4 ohms and I am advised to go with Denon 3805 or higer end Yamaha.

I am looking for prices and models for Denon or Yamaha. I have no brand loyalties and would like to go with the best price that I can get. I would also like to know what discounts (if any) to expect.

I just have center and surround speakers - so I am willing to consider a package with DVD, sub-woofer and cables.

If the price is too high, I will try to get a receiver on my return to India. Thanks.
 

Kalyan
Unregistered guest
just built my home theatre last week. Got a package deal from Yamaha.
RX- V450 - 6.1 channel receiver
NS-7390 floor standing speakers
NS-P70 - center and 3 rear speakers
YST - SW015

package comes to Singapore $ -1350 ( approx 36000 Rs, 750 US$)

would be spending another 500$ to get a cassette deck and good CD player.

Use an optical connection between DVD player and AMP, and it sounds awesome.
Stereo -feel is good, but not clear on direct stereo vs Straight mode.
 

New member
Username: Hsmraj

Post Number: 2
Registered: May-05
Kalyan,

How did you get your speakers shipped from Singapore? Or are these speakers for use in Singapore itself.

Regards,
Rajesh
 

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Just for my knowledge, can anyone of you tell me , whats the cost of the costliest speakers??
 

Anonymous
 
Magnefico,

Costliest speaker can get as costly as USD 10,000 per pair or more. There is upper ceiling remember. High-end speakers manufactures are: B&W, Klipsch, DynAudio, Tannoy, Jamo many more

Ranjeet Rain
http://www13.brinkster.com/ranjeetrain
 

Anonymous
 
Hi Kalyan,

Where are you from? I am from New Delhi. If you are from the city too, I'd like to hear your setup if you permit.

Ranjeet Rain
 

INDER
Unregistered guest
hi manish
if ur in delhi can u tell me where i can buy a powerd subwoofer for my aiwa cd player
waiting for reply
and my cell number is +91-9896441555

or email me at "lover3k@yahoo.com"
 

Anonymous
 
The award of the costliest speaker goes to:

German Physiks Tiebreak - MSRP: $ 250000.00

Each Tie Break speaker is composed of four (4) DDD units, eight (8) 6-inch drivers, and four (4) 15-inch woofers.

http://audioholics.audioreview.com/cat/speakers/main-speaker/german-physiks/PRD_ 119557_1594crx.aspx

Ranjeet Rain
http://www13.brinkster.com/ranjeetrain
 

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hey guys, it would be useful if anybody commented on Bose 301 with comparison to all your above references and comments... thanks in advance... i am a newbie in the world of high-power systems but have almost zeroed in on the Bose 301 speaker systems and am scouting for more information and stuff ... budget ceiling is about 50-60Gs but could stretch it to above that if something worthy comes along... thanks. ciao.
 

New member
Username: Viwake

MumbaiIndia

Post Number: 1
Registered: Aug-05
I too am building a system, as of now will buy the Receiver & a pair of fronts & build the entire 7.1 in time (as my main use is listening to music):
Receiver - Yamaha 757 (am giving a good thought for the yammy 1500 also, but out of budget)
Fronts - Either Wharfedale 9.3 or JBL E50, can someone advice the price for the both ? Also any other suggestions welcome in the range of 20K for a good pair of fronts, though I am more inclined to wharf's.

Also please suggest a good sub which will be available in India @ 10Kish.

@Vikram - Dont given Bose a 2nd thought, its not worth their prices - if u google on bose u will find threads & threads on "why not Bose"
 

Anonymous
 
costliest speakers im sorry go way above than jamo, klipsch etc as u have posted...eg wilson audio, sonus faber, revel, krell ...etc ...
 

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Guys today is sunday in Chicago and i have spent the whole day for surfing about receivers. Finally i have reached the right place. anyways inputs from all of you has been very helpful.

I wish to buy Yamaha RXV 657 receiver. Now issue is I will be buying it from US which has NTSC system. Could any of you guide me that will this receiver work in India with PAL bought from US. Well the price is good over here so wish to get it from US. Also any Indian DVD player would also work or not with this receiver.

I really hope to get a response from some of you who have the knowledge regarding the same.

thanks in advance
 

Silver Member
Username: Cheapskate

Post Number: 444
Registered: Mar-04
i used to be proud of my onkyo 5 channel reciever for it's improved treble detail and extension over my NAD 2 channel reciever, but the cheap ($240 delivered) panasonic SA-XR55 7.1 channel class-d reciever that i just bought walks all over it in EVERY respect.

bass is much tighter and deeper

midrange is especially nice. vocals sound silky smooth and grain free now. this is the trait that stands out the most.

treble detail is also improved. i can hear alot more texture in "white noise and buzzing" type sounds as well as crisper metallic percussion.

that cheap reciever has more detail resolution in EVERY frequency as well as sounding much more relaxed at the same time. is as if the reciever is saying "don't mind me... it's like i'm not even here" LOL

even when i put my ear right next to my tweeters, i can't hear any grain.

now eddie isn't the only person here that will be raving about class-d recievers.

 

soumya mukherjee
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Hi Can anyone tell me where can I find yamaha products in Kolkata specially Yamaha HTIB s
 

Unregistered guest
Hi Can anyone tell me where can I find yamaha products in Kolkata specially Yamaha HTIB s


My Id soumya1975 at rediffmail.com please let me know if anybody has any clue
 

Unregistered guest
Hi

I am planning to set up a home theatre system.

I have been recommended the following :

1. Yamaha Rx 550 - Rs.18,000/-
2. Wharfedale Moviestar 70 Speakers (5+1) Rs.30500/-
3. Pioneer DV 383 Rs.3,800/-

I would like your comments on the above products and prices.
3.
 

Rahulrahul
Unregistered guest
Hi All,
Before you setup ur home theatre,listen to Sonodyne. I would definitely put my money on sonodyne 5.1 speakers & buy a Onkyo/yamaha reciever for budget of 50k INR.
~Rahul
 

Anonymous
 
Hi,I am looking for an YAMAHA dealer in Mumbai, as I am interested in buying a home theater receiver. Thanks
 

Astrobufff
Unregistered guest
Yamaha Importer : Savoy Electronics: 91-22-6407317/8 . Main retailers Vijay Sales, Gray Market Yamahas available everywhere at 30% cheaper than Official. The Onkyo package with the SR503 and the SKS 101 towers with 4600 surrounds is good. Try the HT230 speakers = SR503 in the amazer package for budget(49K)
 

Unregistered guest
Hi guys
I heard SONODYNE in one of CCD,s around and i started looking for for one and here i m. I never knew abt these systmes before so now u know how well equppied i am with all this.
I Own a LABtec 5.1 Set for my PC which is quite good but SONODYNE was ust awsome. way ahead any speakers i have heard. Dont mind if i say they sounded better than JBL may be because of better worked out aucoustics.
Where can i get to know more abt these? i mean terms like recievers and so on i would definitly be int in building one system for my room Both for audio n video can u suggest me good one with price range as low as 25K

aniket AT inbox dot com
 

Unregistered guest
I had an existing sonodyne tape deck and speakers(30 years old) i recently bought a yamaha rx-v457 and 2 rear speakers from sonodyne. The setup produces magical sound. Sonodyne a/v recievers are not really that good but thier speakers are unbelievable. Even after 30 years the front speakers are the richest sound i have ever heard. Highly recommend sonodyne speakers however with either an onkyo or yamaha reciever
 

New member
Username: The_seeker

Post Number: 3
Registered: Feb-06
hi all,
i too have a similar problem. can't find dealers for nad or monitor audio here in delhi. and surely cant buy speakers without auditioning! any suggestions?
 

New member
Username: Ankur

Post Number: 2
Registered: May-06
Hi All,

I am planning to buy a pair of Sonodyne Sonus 2605 speakers (Without a separate sub-woofer) and couple it to a Yamaha AX-496 or AX-497. any comments on the combination will be welcome.

also, can anybody provide an idea of Yamaha prices for the above and conatcts?

 

New member
Username: Mantena1

Pune, Maharasatra India

Post Number: 1
Registered: May-06
Hi
Can Any one Suggest me in the Budget of 42000/- which HT Packages fits me. and Pls Tell Whether i can go with the Below send sale in E-Bay...Yamaha Rxv457 and Jamo P&J HCS 4600 PPL for 39990..is it worth buying the said sale,where i can get good Sound Quality and worth in buying it.Can anyone pls give me address of Yamaha Dealer in Pune.

Ravi
 

New member
Username: Gravs

Post Number: 1
Registered: May-06
Hi all ,
It is great to hear your views . I m interested in buying a good quality sub woofer in the price bracket of 15,000 IRS . can some one of you which one would be a great option to work with Benz Speakers of 150 Rms Sound output and 6 Ohms Impedance.
 

Bronze Member
Username: Emdawg12345

Post Number: 46
Registered: Jan-06
http://www.rotteneggs.com/?refid=182315
this one will work perfect for only $150!
 

Silver Member
Username: Dakulis

Spokane, Washington United States

Post Number: 941
Registered: May-05
TK,

It's time to go back to school, your mommy is calling.
 

New member
Username: Andrew_williams

ManamaBahrain

Post Number: 6
Registered: May-06
My apologies for cutting in. Am I on the wrong line? or all are sick of writing the same over and over? I posted my question under the heading PLEASE ADVICE ME THE RIGHT CHOICE, but so far I have not received comments except from Stu, Nuck, and Berny.

What has happen to the rest.

Hey guys, I am investing a lot of money as per my income. I really appreciate your input and advice.

Hawk, Abe, Eddie, Art, Gregory where are you guys. I am totally depending on comments and advices coming out of this forum.

Thanks in advance.
 

Silver Member
Username: Rick_ross

Post Number: 393
Registered: May-06
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