New here and need help..

 

New member
Username: Hdtvnut

Post Number: 1
Registered: Sep-05
First let me say, great forum you guys have here.

I am kinda new to all this so please be patient with me.

I just purchased a Samsung 61'' DLP 1080p TV http://product.samsung.com/cgi-bin/...HLR6178WX%2fXAA and I wanted to add a great surround sound system to it. From what I understand klipsch makes some of the best surround sound speakers money can buy. I was looking at these speakers but it seems to advertise them just for flat panel tv's. Are these good for a DLP TV on a stand or are they just for flat screens? http://www.klipsch.com/product/prod...=936&s=finishes Are there better klipsch surround speakers that I can look at? If so could you post the link?

Also, is there anywhere good online that I can buy these speakers because there dosent seem to be anywhere local.

Thanks for the help everyone.

P.S. If anyone has any suggestions on recievers im all ears. I was looking at a few Harmon Kardon recievers. Do they make a good product?
 

New member
Username: Hdtvnut

Post Number: 2
Registered: Sep-05
The links dont seem to work. Here is the first link. http://product.samsung.com/cgi-bin/nabc/product/b2c_product_detail.jsp?eUser=&pr od_id=HLR6178WX%2fXAA

here is the second. http://www.klipsch.com/product/product.aspx?cid=936&s=finishes
 

Bronze Member
Username: Divin11112000

Michigan

Post Number: 50
Registered: Dec-04
I don't know much about the flat speakers, but I use Klipsch reference 35's and I love the sound. They are very forward, which I think is real good for movies.

If you want to stay with flat speakers I'd try looking at the rvx-54 or rvx-42 (these are the reference version). I think the reference series speakers sound better then the synergy speakers.

Although with any speaker your going to have to be the one to live with them so go listen and decide what is better for yourself.

HK mate well with Klipsch from what i've read, i'm using a pioneer and I think it sounds fine. If you decide to go Klipsch, stay away from lower end Yamaha, they tend to be a little bright, and Klipsch are a little bright, that make it tough on your ears (again open to your interpetation, may be something you like)

The only true advice you can get here is don't buy because someone says they are the best, cause the best for me isn't always the best for you.
 

New member
Username: Hdtvnut

Post Number: 3
Registered: Sep-05
Hey chris, thanks for the reply. Just so im clear, im not looking just at flat speakers. Those were just speakers that I came across that looked good. I really have no idea what I should be looking for. I am also told that Axiom makes a nice speaker. Really what I need is to be guided in the right direction. I dont want to spend a ton for an "ok" system but I dont want to go cheap and get a POS system. I want something that sounds great and is in the $2500 price range speakers and reciever included. IS this a reasonble price for a nice system? Thanks
 

Silver Member
Username: Kano

Post Number: 686
Registered: Oct-04
http://www.klipsch.com/product/product.aspx?cid=360

http://www.klipsch.com/product/product.aspx?cid=365

http://www.klipsch.com/product/product.aspx?cid=367

http://www.harmankardon.com/product_detail.aspx?Region=USA&Country=US&Language=E NG&cat=REC&prod=AVR%20635&sType=C

http://www.svsubwoofers.com/subs_pb12_plus.htm

Shoot for the stars, even if you end up with your feet on the ground lol
 

Silver Member
Username: Stu_pitt

NYC, NY

Post Number: 598
Registered: May-05
Bob -
Here's a great set up at a great price -

https://dmc-electronics.com/Default.htm

Scroll down to the PSB T45 theater system, about 3/4 of the way down. It's about $1400. I'm not sold on their subwoofers though. I'm not saying they're bad at all, but I have heard better for the same money. Maybe they'll give you a better deal if you don't want it. I don't have any experience with them, but alot of people here love the HSU and SVS subs.

Everyone has different tastes, so you really should listen to anything before you buy. If your interested in PSB's, go to psbspeakers.com to find a dealer near you. I've heard that set up and to me it's worth every penny, even at full retail price.

At about $1400, that leaves you with another $1100 for a receiver. I'd check out Arcam. H/K is very good, but no where near Arcam.
 

Gold Member
Username: Edster922

Abubala, Ababala The Occupation

Post Number: 2243
Registered: Mar-05
Bob,

browse this site, especially the Reviews section, and also register for their forum and see if you can find someone in your area who'll let you come listen. These are IMHO the best speaker value for the money out there:

www.ascendacoustics.com
 

New member
Username: Hdtvnut

Post Number: 4
Registered: Sep-05
Ok guys, I think I have narrowed down what I want.

Im looking at 2 Denon Recievers. The first reciever is $649.00 http://www.usa.denon.com/ProductDetails/511.asp

The second reciever is $899.00
http://www.usa.denon.com/ProductDetails/473.asp

The speaker system im looking at is the Klipsch RVX-54 Home Theater Speaker system.
https://www.ecoustics.com/electronics/products/reviews/139878.html

My question now is, which reciever for this type of speaker system? Is the I dont want to spend the extra money for the more expensive reciever if the cheaper one will do the job. On the other hand, if the more expensive one will give me better sound I will gladly pay it. Thanks for the help

 

New member
Username: Hdtvnut

Post Number: 5
Registered: Sep-05
By the way, I was able to drive down to a Klipsch retailer here in my area and listen and get some help with my choices.
 

Silver Member
Username: Chitown

Post Number: 333
Registered: Apr-05
Bob I can recommend Axiom highly, but can not tell you enough about the HSU subwoofer. This is a great beast (not size wise just output and clarity). If you are looking at Denon you might consider looking at Ubid.com for some good refurbished ones at good prices.

Tell us more about the DLP TV. Does it work well with a lot of sunlight in the room?

I have a DLP projector, but I wouldn't use it for everyday TV. I live in mid rise building with a lot of city lights, so I usually close all blinds to watch movies.

 

Bronze Member
Username: Rysa4

Post Number: 49
Registered: Jul-05
On the receiver issue-

I note that the two choices you mentioned, both fine receivers, do not seem to be able to do HDMI switching. If thats the case, then you would have to consider why not going with something less expensive like the Denon 1706 for instance? In other words, are you sure you are getting something more useful for the greater amount of money? Klipsch speakers are efficient in that they don't need a lot of power to drive them, so ANY denon receiver should work well with that Klipsch set ( dont try it with the THX Ultra 2 set up though!!!)

Thats it for now.
 

New member
Username: Hdtvnut

Post Number: 6
Registered: Sep-05
Im not really sure what HDMI switching is. Is it something that I need with my system? Thanks
 

Bronze Member
Username: Rysa4

Post Number: 50
Registered: Jul-05
Thats for you to decide. HDMI is an all digital audio/visual cable connection as opposed to component cable or s-video or composite. As time goes on more and more devices will use HDMI and some devices may disadvantage their component connections or eliminate them; this is due to copy protections and other issues beyond the scope of this discussion.

My point is, if you dont need HDMI connectivity, then a less expensive receiever may suffice. If I pay more money, I usually have a reason to do so.
 

Silver Member
Username: Cheapskate

Post Number: 384
Registered: Mar-04
from the most recent info i've read, most DVD-A and SACD high resolution DVD players only send standard CD resolution (16/44.1) audio through digital coaxial. the article where i read this stated that the reason behind this is to curb piracy.

the article might have been in regards to panasonic's SA-XR70 reciever or maybe one of their HDMI DVD players which can send 24/88 audio resolution using HDMI.

HDMI is more future proof and potentially higher quality for digital audio. if HD-DVDs ever hit the market, a reciever with HDMI will be ready for it.

i imagine that the HDMI signal is only 24/88 instead of 24/96 (DVD-A) or 1/192 (SACD) for the same anti-piracy reasons. 24/88 isn't the last word in fidelity, but it's definately better than 16/44.

 

Silver Member
Username: Stu_pitt

NYC, NY

Post Number: 600
Registered: May-05
Bob - How much is that Klipsch system total? The review had it at about $3000. I thought you were looking at $2500 for speakers and receiver. I'm glad you heard the stuff you were looking into. The thing about Klipsch is that they have a very distinctive sound. If that is what you're after, you're probably not going to find it anywhere else.
 

New member
Username: Hdtvnut

Post Number: 7
Registered: Sep-05
Stu, system total is about 3 grand and the reciever about $900 so by the time the guy comes and runs the wires, (im having the klipsh people come and wire the system)it will be about $4500. Add that to the $4500 TV I just bought and the whole system comes to about $9000.00! Me and my girlfriend have been in about 20 fights in the last 2 days! ha.

When do you guys think the true HD-DVD players will be comming out? Anytime in the near future? thanks
 

New member
Username: Hdtvnut

Post Number: 8
Registered: Sep-05
Oh, let me add to that total the $170 per month I pay Time Warner for all the channels and 2 HD DVR boxes.
 

Bronze Member
Username: Rysa4

Post Number: 51
Registered: Jul-05
HD-DVDs will have a new audio codec. Current receivers WILL of course play audio from HD-DVDs, but potentially not at "full dtd NEo 6 or whatever" it will be. I'd recommend the least expensive option that will get the job done well in case you wanna upgrade when HD-DVD gets all settled with sufficient titles out in numbers as well as DVD players too. Stuff will be out in 2006 but in mass quantities otherwise in...2 years my best guess.
 

Silver Member
Username: Stu_pitt

NYC, NY

Post Number: 603
Registered: May-05
"Add that to the $4500 TV I just bought and the whole system comes to about $9000.00! Me and my girlfriend have been in about 20 fights in the last 2 days! ha."

That's classic. For $9000, you could have bought a brand new Hyundai... wouldn't have been nearly as entertaining though.
 

New member
Username: Hdtvnut

Post Number: 9
Registered: Sep-05
haha, i will take the home theatre over the hyundai any day. i might even take the home theatre over the girlfriend! :D j/k
 

New member
Username: Hdtvnut

Post Number: 10
Registered: Sep-05
Hey guys, I know this question belongs in a different forum but i thought it would be easier to just post it in this thread.

My question is about Surge Protectors and the wiring used to connect the speakers, tv and all that. do i need to invest in a expensive surge protector or is a regular one for like $20 bucks just the same? also, i have avic componet cable running from my cable box to my tv, should i have that kind of high quility wiring everywhere on my home theater. are there different quility speaker wires and such? thanks
 

Gold Member
Username: Edster922

Abubala, Ababala The Occupation

Post Number: 2276
Registered: Mar-05
I'd get a surge protector that has an independent battery so that if the power goes out your entire system doesn't just totally shut down all at once.

Like this one:

http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=10372172&loc=101&sp=1

Fancy internconnects and speaker wires are part of the Audio Mystic canon: there's zero scientific evidence that they make any difference at all, but a small number of people do swear by them.

Certainly it's widely agreed that Monster Cable is the overpriced Bose-scam of the whole cables/interconnects industry.

If you have the extra change to burn then why not, otherwise I'd put these accessories at the bottom of my priority list when buying a system.
 

Silver Member
Username: Chitown

Post Number: 336
Registered: Apr-05
"there's zero scientific evidence that they make any difference at all"

I'll be willing to bet that under certain conditions tolerance and data loss delta of gold plated interconnects and heavier shielding vs. regular cables will show up in a scientific test. I think your point though is that you won't be able to hear any difference.


 

Gold Member
Username: Edster922

Abubala, Ababala The Occupation

Post Number: 2287
Registered: Mar-05
yes. I should have said "audible difference."
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