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SACD playback question

 

Bronze Member
Username: Kalda01

Post Number: 13
Registered: May-04
I plan to buy a SACD capable DVD player, and hook it up to my Yamaha RX-V596 receiver which has 5.1 analog RCA inputs.
Will I be able to benefit from the SACD playback this way, or do I also need to get an SACD capable receiver ?
 

Silver Member
Username: Sem

Post Number: 154
Registered: Mar-04
You should be good to go as long as the receiver has 5.1 analog inputs. Enjoy!!
 

Silver Member
Username: Kegger

MICHIGAN

Post Number: 595
Registered: Dec-03
i agree with sem as long as you have the inputs
you should be fine!
 

Bronze Member
Username: Kalda01

Post Number: 14
Registered: May-04
So seems it will play the SACD disks, but will it sound like SACD with this receiver or just like any other DTS sound-track ?
 

Silver Member
Username: Kegger

MICHIGAN

Post Number: 597
Registered: Dec-03
to be honest i'm not sure why your asking these
questions.

i don't mean hey stupid what are you thinking.

but sacd and dvd-a they have to come out of your
dvd player with six analog outs no matter what
reciever you use them on. so you plug those into
the six analog inputs of the reciever and you have
your dvd-a or sacd.

it will be the same on any unit.

if your reciever does not have processing turned off
on the analog inputs you could get some degration
of the signal but it will still sound like dvd-a
or sacd.and you probably wouldn't really notice it anyway.

my hk you can do it both ways and i don't notice any difference.
 

Bronze Member
Username: Kalda01

Post Number: 15
Registered: May-04
The reason I am asking, is because I went into a high-end home theater store, looked at SACD players, and the "Expert" in the store, told me I'd be wasting my money buying the SACD player as my receiver is not capable of playing the frequences generated by SACD players.
So I was wondering if special receiver is needed to really benefit from SACD sound tracks.
 

Silver Member
Username: Kegger

MICHIGAN

Post Number: 598
Registered: Dec-03
nope!

and if i was you i wouldn't limit myself to just
sacd.

i would get a universal player that does dvd-a also.

like the denon 2200 "which i have" or something
like that.

good luck and happy audioing! lol
 

Bronze Member
Username: Kalda01

Post Number: 16
Registered: May-04
I was thinking of getting a Pioneer DV-563A or DV-655A, which seems to be very reasonably priced.
 

Silver Member
Username: Sem

Post Number: 155
Registered: Mar-04
I would also look to frequent a different HT shop. Unless I'm missing something here, this guy's not being completely honest with you.
But, of course, not all receivers are created equally. You get what you pay for. Perhaps he was encouraging you to $pend a little more money in hi$ $hop. :-)
 

Bronze Member
Username: Kalda01

Post Number: 17
Registered: May-04
Yes, what he said also sounded fishy to me. He claimed SACD would sound the same as normal CD audio, if I hook it up to my Yamaha RX-V596 via the 5.1 analog inputs, and recommended I purchase a Denon receiver to go with the DVD/SACD player.
I will most likely shop online, once I figure out what player model to go for.
 

Silver Member
Username: Kegger

MICHIGAN

Post Number: 601
Registered: Dec-03
i have the 563a and the denon 2200.

you can't really beat the pioneer for it's price.

the only thing i can do is tell you the difference
between the 2 players i have.

the video and audio on a scale of 1 to 10.

pioneer
video 8
audio 8

denon
video 10
audio 10

the denon gets a plus for audio and video.

the pioneer gets a plus that it plays every format/
burnt disk you throw at it. where the donon has
problems with burnt media unless you use quality
dvd-r disks.

so if you play burnt media the pioneer may be a better
choice for you.
 

Silver Member
Username: Sem

Post Number: 156
Registered: Mar-04
Dan,

I have the 563A combo player. Listening to DVD-A's on it through my NAD is is major step up when compared to listening to redbook cds. I haven't picked up any SACD's yet but I hear they sound equally as good. Its a low cost alternative to the higher priced players such as the Denon 2200. That said, in a blind test I'm sure the Denon would even sound much better. But in my case it was a matter of finances. Down the road I will probably look to upgrade but in the mean time I can still enjoy ri-rez and surround sound. Good luck with whatever you decide.
 

Bronze Member
Username: Mrspeeed

Canada

Post Number: 22
Registered: Jun-04
Dan,

I have the RX-V596 hooked up with the Pioneer DV-563(A) and it sounds great for DVD-A. I haven't tried the SACD yet. It deffinately pushes my speakers to the limit.

I have read in one Yamaha authorized spec sheet where the RX-v596 is capable of handling the 10hz-100kz range output by DVD-A and SACD. Also, the owners manual reads that these frequencies are supported in the front l/r speakers. I don't know if this includes the 5.1 inputs but at the end of the day it still sounds good (I have my 563-A hooked up with using the 5.1 out and 5.1 external decoder input on the yammie). For what the 563-A sells for you can't go wrong IMO. You should know that it would be best to get the Outlaw's ICBM to circumvent any base management issues you will get with the 563-A (i.e. DVD-A's filter for low frequencies - when speakers are set to small - is 200hz...a problem for me because my sub only goes up to 120hz). A better DVD-A player may have a better base management system built in than the 563-A thus eleminating the need for the ICBM. I don't have the ICBM so I have just set all my speakers to large.

Hope this helps.
 

Bronze Member
Username: Mrspeeed

Canada

Post Number: 23
Registered: Jun-04
Dan,

Which speakers do you have? I have a set of missions. The yamaha and missions are bright sounding together but I never noted this at all until I put in a DVD-A. The extra detail of these discs have me running to turn down the treble. Note when using the yammie's 5.1 external decoder none of the DSP's work (not a digital format) but the good ole' tone controls do.

Regards,
 

Bronze Member
Username: Kalda01

Post Number: 18
Registered: May-04
My fronts are Large size Pardigm, and the surround are pair of Paradigm Atom
 

Bronze Member
Username: Kalda01

Post Number: 19
Registered: May-04
How about the DENON DVD-2200 compared to the Marantz DV6400, as far as audio quality goes ?
Any first hand feedback ?
 

Bronze Member
Username: Kalda01

Post Number: 20
Registered: May-04
Another question that I need to answer is whether these DVD/SACD players can operate in Europe with a step down converter.
I am going to travel there in for a few month, and would like to take the player with me.
I am not sure if the motor spinning the disc is sensetive to the 50hz frequency, or is it strictly DC current driving the motor.
 

Silver Member
Username: Kegger

MICHIGAN

Post Number: 643
Registered: Dec-03
when i got my denon i compared it to the dv6400
and found the denon much better on video and a
little better on audio.
 

Bronze Member
Username: Kalda01

Post Number: 22
Registered: May-04
What kind of cables should be used for the analog mukti-channel output ?
 

Silver Member
Username: Kegger

MICHIGAN

Post Number: 654
Registered: Dec-03
whatever you got.

to me once you have descent ones that's all you need.
i just don't see the justification of spending
tons on cabling.

peronally i use acoustic research from best buy.
it's $13 for (2) 6' cables. and you need 6 of them
so it would be $40 to run your analog cabling.
 

Bronze Member
Username: Kalda01

Post Number: 23
Registered: May-04
Some RCA cables are described as "digital cables", so are these compatable with analog connections ?
 

Silver Member
Username: Kegger

MICHIGAN

Post Number: 656
Registered: Dec-03
dan i don't know what your talking about.
so i can't awnser.

all i can tell you is that it takes regular everyday
rca cables.
 

Bronze Member
Username: Kalda01

Post Number: 24
Registered: May-04
For example I saw on Ebay the following item:
"CS Signature 77/Canare RCA Coaxial Digital Audio Cable".
It says RCA and also says Digital, so I am confused.
 

Silver Member
Username: Kegger

MICHIGAN

Post Number: 663
Registered: Dec-03
dan that is a cable used for connecting the digital
audio coaxial connection.

yah it would work but all you need is standard
rca cables.and i wouldn't buy that cable.
 

Bronze Member
Username: Kalda01

Post Number: 27
Registered: May-04
I will look for the Accoustic Resarch you mentioned. Is it the "Master" or "Signature" ?
 

Silver Member
Username: Kegger

MICHIGAN

Post Number: 665
Registered: Dec-03
to be honest i'm not sure.

they are in the all silver box not gold.

and are like $12.95 a pair for 6' ones.
 

Bronze Member
Username: Kalda01

Post Number: 28
Registered: May-04
Is this the one:
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=1051384697603&productCategoryId=cat08 053&type=product
 

Silver Member
Username: Kegger

MICHIGAN

Post Number: 667
Registered: Dec-03
i'm sure those are fine.

they are the next one up from what i use.
so they might be made slightly better.
those are 3 feet long and if that is long enough
for you great.

the ones that i have are in the all silver package
and are 6 feet long instead 3.
i needed/wanted the extra cable length.

but if you can use the 3 foot ones all the better.
 

Bronze Member
Username: Kalda01

Post Number: 29
Registered: May-04
I was told once that the longer the cable the greater the signal loss, so I always try to use less as possible, and in this case the DVD player is one shelf up above the receiver in the HT cabinet
 

Silver Member
Username: Kegger

MICHIGAN

Post Number: 670
Registered: Dec-03
sounds good!
 

Unregistered guest
I have a Panasonic SA-HE 100 and a Pioneer DV-45A DVD and I'm not sure the correct way to hook up cables in order to listen to SACD.
Thanks a lot
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