I wonder if the sound will ever get better. Hawk, have you heard them yet? If so, what do you think?
I've heard the 1804. It sounds just like my 1803. They made some speaker connection changes and its specs show what looks like a slightly better amp. For the most part it's a very trasparent (some would say boring) sounding receiver. I prefer equipment I can trust not to degrade or enhance my music. That's just me. Again, it doesn't have a sound. I listened to the receiver through Energy Encores and Mission M71s.
Hope this helps.
Thanks for the update, Derek. Thats what I thought. Its too bad, Denon used to make good sounding receivers I wonder whats going on behind the Denon corporate doors? Oh well.