Pioneer or Marantz



I've been looking at the Pioneer VSXD812 or possible the VSXD712.

Are these Pioneer receivers any good?

How do they compare against something like the Marantz SR5400 or SR4400 ?

Help !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You should compare the Pioneer Elite line against Marantz. The Pioneer models you mentioned have gotten good reviews but don't measure up to the Marantz line. Look at the Elite 41,53 or if you can find a 43 or45 from the previous line I would highly recommend those. Elite or Marantz are excellent.


The Pioneers are a big step down from the Marantz, IMO. They are designed strictly to meet a price point for the discounters and club stores (where I see them). The Marantz uses much higher quality parts and the improvement in the sound readily shows. elitefan is correct that you should compare a Pioneer Elite with the Marantz, not a Pioneer.
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