I just made a huge step!!!
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Gold Member Username: T_bomb25Dayton, Ohio United States Post Number: 1854 Registered: Jun-05 | I just bought the awsome Swan F2.2F,they will be delivered tomorrow,this is my biggest step yet,I've never been this excited!!! |
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Silver Member Username: SoundgameRichmond Hill Toronto ..., Ontario Canada Post Number: 238 Registered: Jun-08 | Some Canadian roots in those speakers, right out of old Toronto. Actually, I don't know much about these, have heard the name, they look wonderful and I'm sure with the right gear sound wonderful as well. All the best with it, and welcome back. |
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Gold Member Username: Mike3Wylie, Tx USA Post Number: 1498 Registered: May-06 | HT stuff? |
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Gold Member Username: Nickelbut10Post Number: 2033 Registered: Jun-07 | I heard the Swan's in Montreal. Never heard of them until then. Amazing sounding speaker TW. Congrats man. Mike- They seem to market their speakers as HT speakers, but I heard the 2.2 in a two channel system and they are great. They are a company out of Toronto. Small company. Not very well known, but make great speakers. http://www.swanspeaker.com/product/htm/view.asp?id=354 |
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Gold Member Username: Nickelbut10Post Number: 2034 Registered: Jun-07 | They are made by HiVi in Toronto. |
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Gold Member Username: ArtkAlbany, Oregon USA Post Number: 7927 Registered: Feb-05 | Enjoy the new speaks! |
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Gold Member Username: Nickelbut10Post Number: 2037 Registered: Jun-07 | TW- Those are a heavy load. What will you be powering them with? |
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Silver Member Username: NmytreePost Number: 186 Registered: Aug-04 | Holy Hat!!! Those things are huge and beautiful, Tawaun!! Congratulations! I definitely want to learn all about how they sound. |
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Gold Member Username: T_bomb25Dayton, Ohio United States Post Number: 1855 Registered: Jun-05 | Correction people Swan (HiVi) is the biggest Chinese speaker company in China and the biggest oem driver company in China,and they have the biggest sound chamber in the world even bigger than the 1 in Canada.They do have strong roots in Canada they have service center in Toronto,and they have a couple enigineers Toronto and Oregon who were invlolved deeply on Swans highend line,they did start of in Canada though. |
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Gold Member Username: T_bomb25Dayton, Ohio United States Post Number: 1856 Registered: Jun-05 | The Bada gear will serve them well,this combo isnt a stranger over in Europe and Asia.In the near Future it will be either a Shenyga or Xindak preamp monoblock setup atleast Bi-amped,the Shengya are kinda pricey but they run 100 watts into class A 300watts into 8 ohms and 600 watts into 4 ohms they have some incredable CDP's but the Xindak 200 watt monos are cheaper and their at good enough price where I could afford to tri-amp but thier CDP isnt anywhere near the Shenyga's their CDP's can challenge the very best in the world so does the mono's. |
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Gold Member Username: Nickelbut10Post Number: 2038 Registered: Jun-07 | Yeah by looking at their site it does appear almost all of their dealers are in China. A crap load. And some of those china based show rooms they have a massive, and impressive. From reading on HiVi's site it reads that they started the company in Canada in 1994, expanding to California in 1997, and then expanded to China where they had more of direction there. Their owner is originally from China. They now own 300 stores in China and have their speakers in 700 locations there. Impressive. It also doesn't appear that they have any dealers in Canada? Am I wrong on this? I would love to hear these sometime. |
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Gold Member Username: T_bomb25Dayton, Ohio United States Post Number: 1858 Registered: Jun-05 | Im not sure Nick,I know they have a service center in Toronto and their N.American distribution is in California. |
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Gold Member Username: ExerciseguyBrooklyn, NY United States Post Number: 2094 Registered: Oct-04 | Nice move T. That pretty much rounds out the whole Chinese-rig, Amp, CDP, Cables & Speakers. Make sure to post some pics when it's all up & running. Any further comments on the Bada gear? |
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Gold Member Username: T_bomb25Dayton, Ohio United States Post Number: 1859 Registered: Jun-05 | The Bada gear is great,the 3.8SE has monster bass,very nice very Plinius like,the F2.2F's go deep into the low 20's awsome bass,their 1 of the 5 best speakers I've heard! |
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Gold Member Username: ExerciseguyBrooklyn, NY United States Post Number: 2095 Registered: Oct-04 | They certainly are handsome, how'bout some pics? Are they stack mounted, I can't tell from the pics I've seen? That Bada gear is very intriguing, it's been on my mind quite a bit; I wish there was some more reviews online, not that I don't trust your opinion T. |
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Gold Member Username: T_bomb25Dayton, Ohio United States Post Number: 1860 Registered: Jun-05 | Chris I'll post some pics this week,Im sending the Mini's,C336 and the Diva 6.2's out of here this week,I wanna get my room right.You just have to search around for info on the Bada gear on the net foreign forums and so forth,if your not comftable go with Xindak,they have reviews and a american importer. |
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Gold Member Username: ExerciseguyBrooklyn, NY United States Post Number: 2105 Registered: Oct-04 | I'm looking forward to it T. Are those C336s going to your father? I can't really justify taking a "huge step" myself until a get a better listening space. |
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Gold Member Username: ExerciseguyBrooklyn, NY United States Post Number: 2106 Registered: Oct-04 | Are those Swans stacked T, or do they just look that way? |
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Silver Member Username: AfjGaboroneBotswana Post Number: 139 Registered: Jan-08 | tauwan any info on running the bada 3.8 or 3.3 in high temperature conditions. say 40 degrees celcius - 105 degrees farenheit |
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Bronze Member Username: SmwickB.C Canada Post Number: 55 Registered: Dec-07 | Looks very nice, enjoy. |
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Gold Member Username: T_bomb25Dayton, Ohio United States Post Number: 1861 Registered: Jun-05 | Yes Chris the C336's are going to my dad and yes the F2.2F is stacked. |
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Gold Member Username: T_bomb25Dayton, Ohio United States Post Number: 1862 Registered: Jun-05 | Francis the 3.3 and the 3.8SE will be fine,it might get a little hot but not to bad,you cant beat 2 furnaces in the winter anyway.lol |
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Gold Member Username: T_bomb25Dayton, Ohio United States Post Number: 1863 Registered: Jun-05 | Thanks Steve and NMyTree,its a awsome setup certainly in the big leagues with all the power to rattle your teeth and at the same time the resolution,soundstging,and emotion to move your heart,I certainy feel that each componet at its pricepoint is unbeatable and firmly competes with the upperend,reardless of the B/S politics with China,with the people on this forum,in the end its about the performance and at this price,nothing is even remotely close.Now I know some are gonna say thats your opinion,but price per dollar its very easy to see,some may not like it but thats just the way it is,everything in audio isnt a opinion like some people like to babble on saying if that was the case their would be 1 componet from each company because it will be no need for upgrading,some things are just facts this is a fact nothing under $10k touches this system or each piece individually at their prices you have to spend a lot more to aquire this kind of performance,its just as simple as that. |
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Gold Member Username: Nickelbut10Post Number: 2066 Registered: Jun-07 | Tawaun- How much is the 3.8SE after shipping to North America? |
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Gold Member Username: ExerciseguyBrooklyn, NY United States Post Number: 2107 Registered: Oct-04 | I need those close ups of the Swans buddy. |
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Gold Member Username: T_bomb25Dayton, Ohio United States Post Number: 1864 Registered: Jun-05 | Nick the 3.8SE is about $1400 after shipping. |
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Gold Member Username: Nickelbut10Post Number: 2070 Registered: Jun-07 | Thats pretty cheap. Cool beans. |
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Gold Member Username: T_bomb25Dayton, Ohio United States Post Number: 1865 Registered: Jun-05 | Dont worry Chris you will get your speaker pornn. |
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Silver Member Username: AfjGaboroneBotswana Post Number: 141 Registered: Jan-08 | thanks tauwan. am planning on buying the 3.3. in summer i can switch it on to the 10w class a and the bal onto class ab. i just dont want it tripping on a heavy playing session when i have people over. but that will be at night so it wouldnt be too hot then. otherwise i dont listen to music too loud have you auditioned the sheng ya. i've listened to the vincent (which is sheng ya rebadged for export) on the monitor audio platinums. didnt find it dynamic. wouldnt say it was dull but it lacked presentation. it had all the other good things though |
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Gold Member Username: T_bomb25Dayton, Ohio United States Post Number: 1866 Registered: Jun-05 | I've heard the big Class A monoblocks and the upperend preamp and CDP,which is all im interrested in from Sheng Ya,and they were awsome,they are the only thing I would upgrade for,except for Clayton Audio, Plinius and Passlabs,the Xindak Class A monoblocks are nice to. |
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Gold Member Username: Frank_abelaBerkshire UK Post Number: 3302 Registered: Sep-04 | Interesting looking things. They must be pretty big considering the specs. I must say I'm intrigued by these brands. |
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Silver Member Username: AfjGaboroneBotswana Post Number: 142 Registered: Jan-08 | it is intriguing frank. check out this website www.china-highend-hifi.com . it sells most of the high end chinese audio amps. except for bada though. just going through the specs and comparing them to the prices - its really amazing. esp brands like xindak, bada, jungson, dusson, shanling |
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Silver Member Username: AfjGaboroneBotswana Post Number: 143 Registered: Jan-08 | tauwan how much are the speakers setting you back. pl post review once you get them |
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Gold Member Username: T_bomb25Dayton, Ohio United States Post Number: 1867 Registered: Jun-05 | I have the speakers Francis,my wife is away at school so she is sending the digital camera tomorrow.The F2.2F took a huge price jump they retail for $9495,but there are about 4 dealers that have them priced right at the $6k mark,just last year Swan had them priced at $4895,until they really took a look at the speaker market and realized that was to cheap.They are awsome I will give a full review with pics as soon as I get the rest of these speakers out of the room. |
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Gold Member Username: T_bomb25Dayton, Ohio United States Post Number: 1868 Registered: Jun-05 | The F2.2F are true heavyweights,they weigh 140lbs and stand 55 inches tall. |
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Silver Member Username: HawkbillyNova Scotia Canada Post Number: 369 Registered: Jul-07 | Have fun experimenting with speaker placement.  |
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Platinum Member Username: NuckPost Number: 11065 Registered: Dec-04 | Ay Carumba! |
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Gold Member Username: ExerciseguyBrooklyn, NY United States Post Number: 2111 Registered: Oct-04 | Did you audition these before you bought them? |
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Gold Member Username: ExerciseguyBrooklyn, NY United States Post Number: 2112 Registered: Oct-04 | ...and what did they set you back? |
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Gold Member Username: T_bomb25Dayton, Ohio United States Post Number: 1869 Registered: Jun-05 | Posioning isnt bad in my room,anyone thats seen pics of my room can see that it is a large room,plus the woofer on the top cancels floorbounce.Chris cant tell you exactly what I paid,plus I had trade ins,lets just say im smelling like more than a dozen white roses. |
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Gold Member Username: T_bomb25Dayton, Ohio United States Post Number: 1870 Registered: Jun-05 | Yes I heard them before I bought them Chris I never buy a speaker at that price ithout extensive listening. |
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Gold Member Username: ExerciseguyBrooklyn, NY United States Post Number: 2114 Registered: Oct-04 | OK then, what would they set me back? |
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Gold Member Username: T_bomb25Dayton, Ohio United States Post Number: 1871 Registered: Jun-05 | $6k Chris. |
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Gold Member Username: Frank_abelaBerkshire UK Post Number: 3311 Registered: Sep-04 | The component count makes that very fair, even considering the Chinese manufacture (and the lowered production costs that implies). |
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Gold Member Username: T_bomb25Dayton, Ohio United States Post Number: 1876 Registered: Jun-05 | More like a steal Frank,for what you get. |
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Gold Member Username: T_bomb25Dayton, Ohio United States Post Number: 1881 Registered: Jun-05 | I just made a bigger move literally,I just talked to my realator the other day,and the house we are moving in Denver is huge the living is humngous,so the F2.2F's are going back for the F5F's for just a little more with a few more trade in's Im going even bigger,they will be here tuesday or wensday,and the F2.2F's will go back with the DHL guy.My wife is even talking about getting me the some monoblocks for christmas...woooohhh!!!!!! |
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Gold Member Username: ArtkAlbany, Oregon USA Post Number: 8089 Registered: Feb-05 | Ah, if only my wife thought in terms of audio gear for Xmas...hmmm. |
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Gold Member Username: T_bomb25Dayton, Ohio United States Post Number: 1882 Registered: Jun-05 | Extra suckuping Art,trust me it will work. |
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Silver Member Username: SoundgameRichmond Hill Toronto ..., Ontario Canada Post Number: 278 Registered: Jun-08 | Tawaun - those are some huge speakers. You gotta get those pictures up of your setup. Let us know when you get'um. http://www.swanspeaker.com/product/htm/view.asp?id=280# |
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Gold Member Username: ArtkAlbany, Oregon USA Post Number: 8099 Registered: Feb-05 | Tawaun, that only works if she has more cash and no grandbabies! Dadburnit them kids are eatin' into my monoblocks...lol! |
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Gold Member Username: T_bomb25Dayton, Ohio United States Post Number: 1887 Registered: Jun-05 | Damn Art,my oldest daughter will be 13 at the end of the month,i better speed up this upgrade process then.lol |
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Gold Member Username: T_bomb25Dayton, Ohio United States Post Number: 1888 Registered: Jun-05 | I surely will George,they arrive tuesday between 11am and 1pm all 823 pounds of the F5F via Roadway. |
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Gold Member Username: Nickelbut10Post Number: 2090 Registered: Jun-07 | Those speakers look amazing Tawaun. Congrats. |
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Gold Member Username: T_bomb25Dayton, Ohio United States Post Number: 1889 Registered: Jun-05 | Thanks,Nick I was excited,but that weight about 500 pounds without the crates,yikes im getting some vicoden now,my hoop season will be over this year.lol |
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Gold Member Username: ExerciseguyBrooklyn, NY United States Post Number: 2145 Registered: Oct-04 | Those Swan F5HTs look awesome! And I thought the F2.2Fs were big! |
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Gold Member Username: Nickelbut10Post Number: 2091 Registered: Jun-07 | lol wah, 500 pounds? lol That is awesome. |
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Gold Member Username: T_bomb25Dayton, Ohio United States Post Number: 1890 Registered: Jun-05 | Yeah,the F2.2F is 55 inches tall and weigh 140 pounds per side,the F5F's are 45 inches tall and weigh close to 250 pounds per side,yeah heavy but i love big speakers and amps.I've always dreamed of this day,and its finally coming now all i need is my 100 pound per side monoblocks or 2 pair,i guess a 85 pound amp will have to do for now.lol |
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Gold Member Username: ArtkAlbany, Oregon USA Post Number: 8109 Registered: Feb-05 | "Damn Art,my oldest daughter will be 13 at the end of the month,i better speed up this upgrade process then.lol" LOL!...it looks like you are doin' it fast and furious! That's some mighty heavy gear...I'd have to hire folks by the day to work out placement. |
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Gold Member Username: T_bomb25Dayton, Ohio United States Post Number: 1894 Registered: Jun-05 | Yep Supra Turbo style!lol |
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Gold Member Username: T_bomb25Dayton, Ohio United States Post Number: 1897 Registered: Jun-05 | Well,there here,but someone marked black on a Melot crate for the bottom section,the Black section arrives next week,and then I'll post the pictures,they are awsome I can say that,mind blowing!!!! |
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Platinum Member Username: NuckPost Number: 11117 Registered: Dec-04 | You have to move them TWICE?!? Gawd... |
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Silver Member Username: AfjGaboroneBotswana Post Number: 162 Registered: Jan-08 | tauwan have you heard the bada purer 3.3. could you give me the characteristics of it. the general technical jargon |
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Gold Member Username: T_bomb25Dayton, Ohio United States Post Number: 1898 Registered: Jun-05 | Yes Nuck twice,they bottom section should be here Friday,saturday or monday,i done some number crunching 115kg is actually 255 pounds,jeesh i have never moved something so heavy before jeesh......but it will all be worth it.I guess i can give you guys a little mini-review on them.Well where should i start,1st i want to start with the speed wow,they are uber fast notes come and go in a instance.Next the bass is only forceful when it should be,they have great touch in the bass,and of course when called upon they literally have the power to bust out all of your windows.Next is the midrange and topend very extended sweet and very very detailed,as a matter of fact detail is awsome period,the soundtsaging is vast with acres of depth,width,and height.These are plain and simply put superspeakers,they can compete at the highest level,they reatail for $12,495 but you can get them around the $7k to $8k mark which is stone cold cheap for a superspeaker,they have to be the best buy on the highend speaker market,and im not just saying this because i own them,i mean this from the bottom of my heart.Everything the F2.2F's done very good these do on a all together dfferent im amazed at the gap between these 2 which is huge,and the F2.2F is 1 of the best speakers I've heard.These are 1 of the 3 best speakers I've heard the others the Legacy Whisper and the Revel Saloon2,and their at the beginning stages of their break in period,a cabinet this inert sounds totally different than speakers that dont,this is the exact reason why most flagship speakers are very very heavy,they have a airness to them that my maggies dont even match,they sound like they have more resonances than the F5F,thats a amazing feat right there,Swan needs to get their advertisement together,but if they do the prices will sky rocket,so im happy,that the prices are staying like this for now,a really amazing achievement these speakers are. |
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Gold Member Username: T_bomb25Dayton, Ohio United States Post Number: 1899 Registered: Jun-05 | Francis the 3.3 Purer sounds similar to the 3.8SE,but not as refined not as good in the bass,and it doesent have this level delicacey and space,but it has what the 3.8SE has but a couple of notches down,a lot less but then again not so much its right on par wiith the Xindak XA6950 which replaced a Bryston SSTb100 of 1 of the reviewers on the StereoMojo reviewers staff,so i would say thats very company indeed,that intergrated is $4500 and 1 of the best IA's I've heard, the 3.3 and the 6950 are very similar with the 3.3 having more power in Class A/B mode and a tube premamp section both put out 30 watts in pure Class A. |
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Silver Member Username: AfjGaboroneBotswana Post Number: 163 Registered: Jan-08 | thanks tauwan. how could you compare it to the nad c272 in the bass / mids / highs section. what i dont like about the nad is the very laid back and not so tight bass, and the lack of sound separation. what i like about it is the full mids and warm to neutral highs and it being very musical |
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Gold Member Username: T_bomb25Dayton, Ohio United States Post Number: 1909 Registered: Jun-05 | No comparrison at all Francis,it will smoke the battleship grey off the Nads,knowhere near in the same league. |
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Silver Member Username: AfjGaboroneBotswana Post Number: 165 Registered: Jan-08 | thanks tbomb. just need to get rid of the nad now |
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Bronze Member Username: ClarkzoePost Number: 14 Registered: May-08 | Hi Tawaun, I am one of the avid readers of ecoustics forum and I posted few topics here sometime ago. Like you I am also a class A fanatic like Plinius but I couldn't afford its high price. One of your posts I noticed you mentioned that the Bada Purer 3.8SE (and even the xindak XA6950) has similar sound with the plinius? I've listened to Plinius 9200 sometime last year, a marvelous amp with sweet sound and magnificent 3D holographic soundstage. I found the voice natural and has full of emotion, and is projected in front-center which is very center focussed. I never experienced that kind of imaging before. It's like the voice is floating few inches on top of the tweeter and a bit forward, which I really liked as the human voice almost sounds so real, really a holographic experience. The backup voices are really on the background and you can identify how many of them singing, their position are separated from each other. Also the size of instrument and it's position is well projected. I would say it has excellent deep soundstaging. I want to check with you if Bada Purer 3.8SE has that similar qualities like what I've experienced with Plinius 9200? How about the Xindak XA6950, is it similar to Plinius' ability to project a holographic soundstage? I really appreciate your reply as I am really interested in these chinese amps. I will try to have a demo with my speakers once I found a Bada dealer here in my place. Thanks a lot. |
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Bronze Member Username: ClarkzoePost Number: 15 Registered: May-08 | Hi Tawaun, any feedback from you? Thanks |
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Gold Member Username: ArtkAlbany, Oregon USA Post Number: 9117 Registered: Feb-05 | He hasn't been around for awhile. We'll see. |
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Gold Member Username: Mike3Wylie, Tx USA Post Number: 1815 Registered: May-06 | Since Tawaun is either asleep at the wheel (not likely) or between residences in which to play his music I am going to temporarily hijack this thread. Let me tell you a story about a man named Jed. Poor Mountaineer barely kept his family fed. Then one day.... What a ya' mean you heard that one already? Ok then let's go this route. I changed a bunch of stuff I was thrilled with. Tickled pink with. Locked and loaded on. Then I changed some other stuff which mattered more than I paid attention to in the beginning. Here is the what, so not to make this too boring a read I will get into the whys in further posts. My two sets of DIY RCA Interconnects with the Eichmann Bullet plugs have been sent to JV for trials. In their place were borrowed MIT 330's which led to one set of MIT Terminator 2 RCAs between the tuner and the pre-amp. The CD Player to Pre-amp were upgraded to MIT Shotgun 2 RCAs. The Pre-amp to Amp were upgraded to matching MIT Shotgun 2 RCAs. The really inexpensive DIY speaker wire I made and loved was shoved aside by an early generation OCOS speaker wire (borrowed). Which only made things worse. Since I was on that path already I went with MIT Shotgun 2 Speaker Wires too. As Art would say, a loom! While this madness was going on I started experimenting with power. I tried Shunyata but not right for my kit. I ended up with a PS Audio Duet with the PS Audio Premier SC Power Cord into the wall outlet, a PS Audio Statement SC Power Cord from the CD Player, and I left my Element Cable Red Storm Power Cord in the Pre-amp. That and I removed my Vahalla Power Supply and the motor from the turntable and replaced it with an Origin Live Ultra with DC 200 motor and premium transformer. Did it myself too! No I did not win the lottery, its called "B Stock", Audiogon, eBay, and MusicDirect.com (PS Audio Premier Power Cord). That and selling just about every spare piece of kit I had and anything else that was not bolted down that somebody wanted (my Monster AVS Power Regenerator and Ref. HT-5100 Conditioner for instance) For me, that was a Huge Step!!! |
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Gold Member Username: Stu_pittIrvington, New York USA Post Number: 3212 Registered: May-05 | I went from a Playstation 2 to an XBox 360. HUGE UPGRADE! |
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Gold Member Username: Mike3Wylie, Tx USA Post Number: 1818 Registered: May-06 | Stu P., My "Huge Step" was bigger than your "HUGE UPGRADE". Just look at the type size, you'll see for yourself. BTW, I, not you, stuck with the naming convection of this thread. However I would agree with your post FWIW. And not wanting to leave well enough alone, my upgrade was noticed by my Marsh, while not necessarily good for the Accountant in her, still impressive. Back at you! |
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Gold Member Username: My_rantzAustralia Post Number: 2072 Registered: Nov-05 | I was gonna say something here Mike, but I dare not! |
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Gold Member Username: Mike3Wylie, Tx USA Post Number: 1820 Registered: May-06 | M.R. I think I get it. I thought there was irony in Stu's post and my intention was to respond in kind. Given your post, I came across over the top perhaps? I assure it was at worst SNL type humor, certainly not meant to offend. So have at it, I had no intention of fostering censorship. Your input is always most welcomed. Cheers buddy! Apologies to all. |
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Gold Member Username: My_rantzAustralia Post Number: 2073 Registered: Nov-05 | No, no, no, Mike. You did not get it at all. No apologies needed. PM coming your way Mike! |
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Gold Member Username: ArtkAlbany, Oregon USA Post Number: 9126 Registered: Feb-05 | All loomed up and ready! Congrats Mike sounds like you're really enjoying it. |
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Platinum Member Username: NuckPost Number: 11795 Registered: Dec-04 | http://www.canuckaudiomart.com/details/120768-green_mountain_audio_pico_executiv e_hd/ Hey, a huge step for the bathroom!!! |
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Silver Member Username: SoundgameRichmond Hill Toronto, Ontario Canada Post Number: 693 Registered: Jun-08 | Cheaper than a Koeler. Only thing is, I can't see where you pull the flush, or are these chemical??? LOL... |
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Gold Member Username: T_bomb25Dayton, Ohio United States Post Number: 1917 Registered: Jun-05 | Hi Migs sorry for the late response,Equaling the Plinius is extremely hard the 6950 and the Bada Purer 3.3 while very good cant quite capture that magic while they are only 30 watts in Class A,well only is a strecth considering the Parasound JC-1 monoblocks only go up to 25 watts in class A which is handily more than all the other mainstrem amps only do 10 watts at best is substancial and the 1's im talking about costs 1000's.Heavyweight Class Amps which is Plinius,Peaurax,Pass Labs,and Clayton Audio do the big Class A 50 watts and up,the only affordable amps that do it is the Shengya Mononlocks that come with a solidstate preamp for $4k they are 300 watts into 8 ohms and 100 watts in Class A and their pure 50 watt Class A intergrated,the Bada Purer is cheaper than the monoblocks and more powerful than the intergrated with 80 watts of pure Class A and a very very good tube preamp to boot,if you want Class A its the best value on the planet! |
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Bronze Member Username: ClarkzoePost Number: 16 Registered: May-08 | Thanks for the reply Tawaun.. I hold back my purchase for now. |
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