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12 inch Re Audio SEX12D4 or Alpine Type R 12 inch

 

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Username: E3_overkill

Post Number: 1
Registered: Jul-11
hey guys,

I'm deciding whether between RE Audio 12 inch SEX12D4 or Alpine Type R 12inch

The alpine set up would be 2 alpine type r 12 inch. The amp would be an alpine MRX- M1000. In a ported box probably 1.75 cubic foot per camber.

Amp- 1000 @ 2ohm bridged mono D (Alpine)

Subs- 500 rms 1500 peak (Alpine)

The Re Audio set would be 2 RE sex12d4 12 inch. Hifonics Brutus
BRZ-1200.1. But im not to sure on sealed or ported box on this set up.

Amp- 1200 @ 1 ohm bridge mono D (Hifonics)

Subs- 600 rms 1200 peak (RE Audio)

Which set up do you guy think i should get? im looking for more SPL, but not sacrificing SQ. i still want to hear my music you know. thanks guy i appreciate it.
 

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Username: Joebruce

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Post Number: 3540
Registered: May-04
My vote goes to Alpine.
 

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Username: Jbpitt

Pittsburgh, Pa. Usa

Post Number: 1246
Registered: Jul-09
The Alpine setup. Better subs and better amp
 

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Username: E3_overkill

Post Number: 2
Registered: Jul-11
Thanx guy for the info. So you guys think the alpine's have better
SPL ?
 

Platinum Member
Username: Nd4spd18

Philadelphia, PA

Post Number: 11912
Registered: Jul-06
I would use the Alpine amp and RE sub
 

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Username: Casey

Post Number: 11
Registered: Jun-11
x2 Alpine amp and RE sub
 

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Username: E3_overkill

Post Number: 3
Registered: Jul-11
Why do you guys think re subs and alpine amp ? Just wondering ?
 

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Username: Dloco486

Post Number: 157
Registered: Apr-11
if u go with the alpine amp regardless which subs u choose u'll need to get the dvc 2 ohm version of either sub not dvc 4 if u get the brutus amp u'll want the dvc 4 ohm on whichever sub u pick.
 

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Username: Cavemandjd

Morgan City, Louisiana United States

Post Number: 41
Registered: Jul-11
alpine all the way because I think you should stay with all the same since they make the amp exactly for their subs. They are the best in my opinion for spl and sq.
 

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Username: E3_overkill

Post Number: 4
Registered: Jul-11
I was actaully thinking about going with the new version type r's two 12's and then the new oxyn MB quarts 1500. 1 mono D and wire them parallel @ 1 ohm? And maybe putting them in a 4 cubic ft box. 2 ft per camber. What is your guys opinion on that ? Cause i was originally going to go with the first type r's with the big r symbol in the middle, and run it with the alpine amp. So which do you guys think would be louder. The new have 100 more rms then thee old. So 600 rms and 1800 peak. So jusy want more opinions. Thank for all the replies.
 

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Username: Cavemandjd

Morgan City, Louisiana United States

Post Number: 53
Registered: Jul-11
Newer ones yes. They would be louder and you just have to pair them up right to power them enough.
 

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Username: Cavemandjd

Morgan City, Louisiana United States

Post Number: 58
Registered: Jul-11
kinda old but did you ever decide on a setup??
 

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Username: E3_overkill

Post Number: 68
Registered: Jul-11
yeah actually i did decide. i went with some thing totally different. i went with 2 Sundown audio SA-12 in a 1.75cu ft. per camber, and tuned at 34 hz. with a MB Quarts 1500 mono D. wired @ 1 ohm. and shot let me tell you those subs are loud as hell. and can handle a shot ton my the recommended RMS. im get a new amp SAZ-2500. im already at 145.6 db. with the MB Quarts.
 

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Username: Cavemandjd

Morgan City, Louisiana United States

Post Number: 60
Registered: Jul-11
Ha thats what I'm doing totally changing my ideas on what I wanted. Im buying 2 12" Skars with a sax-1200d :D thats the same thing for these I went and watched some videos on them dammit man they can handle some power and get massively loud. Wow after the new amp hopefully you can get to the 150's ahhhhh.

Did you design your own box or did you go buy one?
 

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Username: Joe1234

Post Number: 832
Registered: May-09
The SA-12s will sound twice as loud as the Skars for the same power though. Both are 600W and both reach low.

E3 Overkill I am glad you found the stuff you wanted, I am sure you can be heard a block away!
 

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Username: Cavemandjd

Morgan City, Louisiana United States

Post Number: 61
Registered: Jul-11
I got a deal with the skars and an amp thats basically the reason.
One last question does your heart skip a beat when you turn it up haha xD basshead
 

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Username: Joe1234

Post Number: 837
Registered: May-09
It's a done deal so I guess it does not matter anymore but it would be great if you review them along with the amp when you have them installed.
 

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Username: Cavemandjd

Morgan City, Louisiana United States

Post Number: 62
Registered: Jul-11
Oh I will and post it back up on here.
Now I just need someone to help me build a box or design one I can make for them... o.O
 

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Username: Joe1234

Post Number: 841
Registered: May-09
These suggestions are per sub:

For an SPL alignment 1.75cuft@36Hz (to run above rated power)

For deep bass 2.0cuft@30Hz

And there are some guys running them up to 2.25cuft@28Hz, but I wouldn't recommend that alignment very much.
 

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Username: Cavemandjd

Morgan City, Louisiana United States

Post Number: 63
Registered: Jul-11
Just for a regular l port, im using re audios bocs calculator.
 

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Username: Cavemandjd

Morgan City, Louisiana United States

Post Number: 64
Registered: Jul-11
box*
 

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Username: Joe1234

Post Number: 852
Registered: May-09
Ok caveman just let me know the space you have L,H,D and I will give you a design suggestion.
 

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Username: Cavemandjd

Morgan City, Louisiana United States

Post Number: 65
Registered: Jul-11
:D thank you
Length can be 4 foot or less
Width can be 2 foot or less
Height can be 2 foot or less
 

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Username: Cavemandjd

Morgan City, Louisiana United States

Post Number: 66
Registered: Jul-11
And if you can try and get the length as less as you can like 3 feet id appreciate it.
 

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Username: Joe1234

Post Number: 855
Registered: May-09
Ok caveman, let me know if this is your sub:

http://skaraudio.com/index.php/products/vvx-12/item/vvx-12-sub-woofer.html

Separate chambers are better here because it makes unnecessary to add bracing, check this center port design:

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Can you manage to build that??

Also on the link they recommend this for ported enclosure:

1.75 CuFt Per Driver after displacement of sub. Tuned ~36hz

You want that or bigger, most designs are going for:

2.0 CuFt Per Driver after displacement of sub. Tuned ~30hz

Makes a bigger enclosure sounding lower but maybe takes less power.

If I go for a single slot port on one side I will have to add a center brace (if feasible), would you prefer that?
 

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Username: Cavemandjd

Morgan City, Louisiana United States

Post Number: 67
Registered: Jul-11
I was reading through some forums and one guy found a design,http://www.diamondaudio.com/PDF/current/WiringEnclosures/Dual12VentedEncl osure.pdf, what do you think of that? I dont know how many CuFt it has or the hertz the box is tuned to though.

I can manage building anything as long as I have dimensions to go by. To be honest I really don't know but I can say what I'm looking for if that can help. I want a ground pounding system, so you can do whatever you want in your opinion because I have no experience really.
 

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Username: Cavemandjd

Morgan City, Louisiana United States

Post Number: 68
Registered: Jul-11
http://www.diamondaudio.com/PDF/current/WiringEnclosures/Dual12VentedEnclosure.p df
Link was messed up.
And yes thats the subs.
 

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Username: Joe1234

Post Number: 856
Registered: May-09
That enclosure is tuned to 40Hz (too high) and is designed for the displacement of a diamond audio sub so it's no good, but I can go for individual chambers with ports on the sides.

But I would stick with L shaped ports just to keep the build simple.

Upload

So that would probably be my suggestion a 2 cuft per chamber tuned to 30Hz with ports on the sides like you see in the picture above.

Would you like that?? its easy to build and design.
 

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Username: Cavemandjd

Morgan City, Louisiana United States

Post Number: 69
Registered: Jul-11
Sounds like that'll work plus it'll be easy to build.
 

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Username: Joe1234

Post Number: 857
Registered: May-09
Ok caveman, it will take me a while since there are other things I need to take care of and this also needs to be done well.

Also if you want it would be nice if you started a thread with something like:
Skar VVX-12 enclosure build
So that people give opinions, should be interesting.
 

Bronze Member
Username: Cavemandjd

Morgan City, Louisiana United States

Post Number: 70
Registered: Jul-11
Ha it ok, I see what your saying I'm still in school so its going to take a long time to build. Theres no rush on it. I do appreciate it.

Definitely shall.
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