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Pioneer Champion series pro (12's) or kicker solo x (12's)

 

New member
Username: Sheed3

Post Number: 1
Registered: Apr-11
I need help from you guys. I'm trying to decide between the Pioneer Champion series pro (12's) or kicker solo x (12's), I want two of them. I've been getting mixed opinions about both of them, I already have kicker cvr 12's, so I'm hesitant to go away from Kickers.

Can some one let me know which I should choose?
 

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Username: Drant19

TX

Post Number: 2239
Registered: Aug-07
either choice on the recommended power is going to NEED electrical upgrades, if you have not already done so. bought $1000 give or take a few hundred depending on your batter that you already have and what not.

What is your budget?
What is your goal for this system? SPL, SQ, Mix of both=SQL?
What vehicle do you have?
Are you open to other options?
 

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Username: Drant19

TX

Post Number: 2240
Registered: Aug-07
about* not bought
 

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Username: The_image_dynamic

San Diego, California

Post Number: 5935
Registered: Dec-06
Why are you deciding between those two?
 

New member
Username: Sheed3

Post Number: 2
Registered: Apr-11
To Brad Those are the best 12's to my knowledge..?
 

New member
Username: Sheed3

Post Number: 3
Registered: Apr-11
To Drant19 I'm goin for the heaviest type base, you know something really Hard hitting! I have a 2001 monte carlo. and by electrical what all do you mean? I know I will probably have to get a extra battery, I have an Alpine 500 watt amp right now and was planning on getting one more to power each speaker. Am I on the rite track ?
 

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Username: Makinblak

Monroe/Monticello, La/Ar

Post Number: 567
Registered: Oct-10
solo x hands down, no competition.
The square 12 has 20%more cone area than a round 12, allowing for more spl and loooower notes. They are also feild-reconable. The solo-x is straight beast!! I had one sealed with ~4 cubes with prolly 800 watts going to it. OMG.
 

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Username: Makinblak

Monroe/Monticello, La/Ar

Post Number: 568
Registered: Oct-10
sheed, you have a lot to learn. Hang in there and be patient, we will guide you grasshopper. To really cut the Xs loose, you will need a couple batteries and prolly a HO alternator with a 10,000 watt RMS amp. Granted, that is not necessary, so get maybe 3500 watts RMS (sundown saz 3500d)
 

New member
Username: Sheed3

Post Number: 4
Registered: Apr-11
Yea I really do have alot to learn lol what about the box? is that what you meant when you said it sealed with 4 cubes?
 

Gold Member
Username: Southernrebel

Monroe, Louisiana Team Audible...

Post Number: 8491
Registered: Mar-04
sheed3,

If you plan to stick w/ a stock alt 2 batts....yea...forget the solo-X's.


Are you looking for a sick daily system....or a one-note-wonder SPL comp setup?


If your are planning on a sick daily system w/ that monte carlo, I would suggest 3-10's and ~1500wrms. Your stock alt and a good batts should be able to support ~1500wrms.

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.....but....something else begs the question.....
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A) Are you looking for LOUD/SMOOTH in the cabin (for daily listening)?

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B) LOUD outside the vehicle (aka, trunk beat/slap/rattle/piss off the neighbors)?
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I have designs for your vehicle that will meet each requirement...as well as common ground between the two.
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I design every enclosure based on the customer's preference. Be it guys that want to 'disturb the peace' or 'smooth daily' guys, or something in between....lol
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I see them everyday.
 

Gold Member
Username: The_image_dynamic

San Diego, California

Post Number: 5938
Registered: Dec-06
Sheed -- Canaan will help you, he knows exactly what he is talking about and I don't have time tonight.
 

Gold Member
Username: Southernrebel

Monroe, Louisiana Team Audible...

Post Number: 8493
Registered: Mar-04
Brad Warren....

Lol.


That's all I have to say.
 

New member
Username: Sheed3

Post Number: 5
Registered: Apr-11
Soo your recommending the 3 10's over the two pioneers regardless?
 

Gold Member
Username: Tejcurrent

Post Number: 2757
Registered: Apr-07
He's saying you don't need a sub rated x,000 rms if you are only running 1,000-1,500 total. What type of box do you have right now, sealed, ported, other?

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Platinum Member
Username: Rovin

1 15 = 153 DBs ...Trinidad & T...

Post Number: 16969
Registered: Jul-05
every single person on E who know his sh1t will never recommend either choices

http://www.soundsolutionsaudio.com/store/

has waaaaaaaay better subs

also google : audioque & fi car audio ...
 

Gold Member
Username: Bernymac

Phnom Penh Cambodia

Post Number: 4901
Registered: Sep-04
Pretty much what everyone is trying to say is

Don't buy subwoofers that require and can take alot more power than you can give them. For one, they will cost more. Second, it would cost alot of money (If you wanted to give them full power) to upgrade your alternator, battery, power wire, and of course you'll need a bigger amp. You can spend around 2k alone on just that alone.

So buy within your means. If you don't want to upgrade any of your electrical. You'll be able to run around 1000-1500rms depending on how good your current electrical is plus some minor upgrades such as big 3 (look it up).

So don't buy a 4000watt sub when you only have 500watts to give to it. Just bc its 4000watts doesn't mean it'll be louder. A very efficient 500watt subwoofer can be just as loud or even louder given the same amount of power.
 

Gold Member
Username: Drant19

TX

Post Number: 2241
Registered: Aug-07
Take Canaan's advice. He'll know more about that specific vehicle and installation options to get you where you want to be, sound wise.

You also dont need a TON of power to get a TON of sound. 1000-1500rms is a GOOD amount of power. Installation is KEY to any good sound system
 

Gold Member
Username: 420pimp2

Atlantic City Baltim..., , NJ/MD

Post Number: 1144
Registered: Jan-06
Glad I found this thread.... Rovin I will second that. Pioneer is garbage and kicker isn't to much better...




Qoute:every single person on E who know his sh1t will never recommend either choices

http://www.soundsolutionsaudio.com/store/

has waaaaaaaay better subs

also google : audioque & fi car audio ...
 

Gold Member
Username: 420pimp2

Atlantic City Baltim..., , NJ/MD

Post Number: 1149
Registered: Jan-06
Well kicker is ok, there amps are nice!
 

Gold Member
Username: Drant19

TX

Post Number: 2242
Registered: Aug-07
kickers' older model SX amps were the T!TS
 

Gold Member
Username: The_image_dynamic

San Diego, California

Post Number: 5939
Registered: Dec-06
Not Garbage:

Upload

And most certainly, not garbage:

Upload
 

Gold Member
Username: The_image_dynamic

San Diego, California

Post Number: 5940
Registered: Dec-06
And LMFAO, sorry Canaan
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