2 12in DC lvl 3's or 1 12/15in DC lvl 4
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Bronze Member Username: Whatmh5Post Number: 15 Registered: Dec-09 | What are your opinions guys? Pros and Cons? This is Spl, daily driver. I have plenty of space, and i listen to mostly rap with some rock... I didn't know which you guys would prefer? Which would be louder? any .02 is great! |
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Bronze Member Username: Whatmh5Post Number: 16 Registered: Dec-09 | Any help? |
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Gold Member Username: BonhamdTraverse City, MI Post Number: 2067 Registered: Nov-07 | ive never messed with the DC stuff but i would like to how much space are you talking? the 2 level 3s would be louder than 1 level 4 15 on the same power. cone area generally wins. |
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Bronze Member Username: Whatmh5Post Number: 17 Registered: Dec-09 | Space is definitely not a problem. I have a 2000 impala ls...it has a huge trunk. I can't wait to order them. Gladly, someone informed me of the world outside mainstream brands. |
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Silver Member Username: PoprocksPost Number: 304 Registered: Mar-09 | L3's |
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Silver Member Username: Wackzirth88K-town, Il U.S. Post Number: 280 Registered: May-09 | Y not 2 lvl 3 15s if u got the space |
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Bronze Member Username: Whatmh5Post Number: 18 Registered: Dec-09 | Well, I still need a little trunk space. Would 2 15s be much louder? |
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Silver Member Username: Wackzirth88K-town, Il U.S. Post Number: 281 Registered: May-09 | Like Daniel said more cone area on the same power is generally louder. Instead of 24 inch of cone area ud get 30. I would think it be quite a bit louder |
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Silver Member Username: TedsprogzNunya, Florida US Post Number: 101 Registered: Aug-05 | oh man u didnt just say 2 12 is 24 sq inch...... lol not again...... forgot about pi???assuming the cone is flat it would be pi times the radius squared. but you are right 2 12s is more cone area than 1 15 |
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Platinum Member Username: Rovin1 15 = 152.5 DBs ...Trinidad & T... Post Number: 15990 Registered: Jul-05 | do u already have a amp or going to get 1 after ... |
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Silver Member Username: Wackzirth88K-town, Il U.S. Post Number: 282 Registered: May-09 | lol duh not talking about squares subs |
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Bronze Member Username: Whatmh5Post Number: 19 Registered: Dec-09 | I do not have the amp already, i was leaning towards a audioque 1200d. I was planning on getting it at the same time that i get the subs.... |
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Gold Member Username: Talon01Team dc audio, Pa Usa Post Number: 2165 Registered: Jun-07 | the lv 3's are the best for music but the lv4 will get louder for ya. with a aq 1200 the lv4 will perform better for ya though. any questions hit me up if you want. |
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Platinum Member Username: InsearchofbassYork, Pennsylvania Post Number: 13465 Registered: Jun-04 | ^^^^Team dc audio |
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Bronze Member Username: Whatmh5Post Number: 20 Registered: Dec-09 | So what your saying scott is that it would be better to get 1 lvl 4 with an aq1200d instead of 2 lvl 3's? Another pro of having 1 lvl 4 other than the amount of space it takes up, is that the box would be cheaper. |
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Gold Member Username: Talon01Team dc audio, Pa Usa Post Number: 2166 Registered: Jun-07 | correct sir |
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Bronze Member Username: Whatmh5Post Number: 21 Registered: Dec-09 | Ok. Even though 2 lvl 3's have more cone area? I am still undecided on which to get. it would be much easier if i got 1 lvl 4.. |
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Gold Member Username: Talon01Team dc audio, Pa Usa Post Number: 2167 Registered: Jun-07 | the single 15 lv 4 will give you more output compared to the lv3 |
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Bronze Member Username: Whatmh5Post Number: 22 Registered: Dec-09 | Well, im either getting 1 lvl 4 12 OR 2 lvl 3 12's.. I know, why not just get 1 lvl 4 15? I just prefer 12's... sounds stupid, i know..  |
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Platinum Member Username: Rovin1 15 = 152.5 DBs ...Trinidad & T... Post Number: 15995 Registered: Jul-05 | have worked with the L3 12s a while ago http://forums.trinituner.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=196607&highlight=dc+audio http://forums.trinituner.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=221358&highlight=dc+audio they are decent subs but personally i a RE SE over it , even a alpine type R but thats just IMHO have heard a buddie's L4x 15s but they were in a SPL box so i cant give a honest music opinion on it ... |
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Gold Member Username: Talon01Team dc audio, Pa Usa Post Number: 2168 Registered: Jun-07 | the lv4xl is really strong for music. i have alot of exp with those paticular subs. i have 2 15's now in the jeep doing 53's on music |
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Gold Member Username: BernymacPhnom PenhCambodia Post Number: 4825 Registered: Sep-04 | My friend tc3k101 is selling a pair of dc lvl 3 12's. |
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Gold Member Username: BernymacPhnom PenhCambodia Post Number: 4827 Registered: Sep-04 | http://www.caraudioclassifieds.org/forum/showthread.php?t=31362 |
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Gold Member Username: MendonmafiaUSA Post Number: 1962 Registered: Aug-06 | get the 15" lvl4 you wont be disappointed. should be similar in output plus you only gotta buy one sub and cut one hole haha. someone once told me that single sub setups are better because they dont have any way of possibly canceling each other out (not that they will cancel but there is just no possibility) a 12" lvl4 would be significantly less output than 2 12" lvl 3's tho. |
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Platinum Member Username: InsearchofbassYork, Pennsylvania Post Number: 13499 Registered: Jun-04 | Bernys link to those lvl 3's is a good price shipped |
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Bronze Member Username: Whatmh5Post Number: 23 Registered: Dec-09 | Ok, so you are thinking 1 lvl 4 15 OR 2 lvl 3 12's? Its a hard decision! what about the lvl 4XL 12? would it be as loud as 2 lvl 3 12's? That does look like a good price. but i dont have the money right this moment. Sorry Berny. Those look like some nice builds Rovin! |
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Gold Member Username: MendonmafiaUSA Post Number: 1963 Registered: Aug-06 | lvl4xl 12 wont be as loud as 2 lvl 3 12's and a lvl4xl will want upwards of 1500 rms, 2000 rms is more their speed sometimes even more than that is good |
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Gold Member Username: Talon01Team dc audio, Pa Usa Post Number: 2169 Registered: Jun-07 | the lv4xl need at least 2k to get moving. i run 3k to each of mine. your best bet is a lv4 15" for your power. i can get you a price if int. shoot me a pm |
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Bronze Member Username: Whatmh5Post Number: 25 Registered: Dec-09 | Well, shouldn't 2 lvl 3 12's be louder? they have about 1000 cm squared of cone area. 1 lvl 4 15 has roughly 800 cm squared... thats what Sd stands for correct? cone area?.... |
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Bronze Member Username: Whatmh5Post Number: 26 Registered: Dec-09 | Also, that came from DC's website. And, I have a custom box being built... both boxes will be 3 - 3.5 cubes...as specified by the builder himself. Therefore, the cost of the box will be similar, so price isn't really a factor anymore. |
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Gold Member Username: MendonmafiaUSA Post Number: 1970 Registered: Aug-06 | lvl 4 has more x max than the lvl3 though so in theory it should displace similar amounts of air even though it has less cone area. buying 1 15" lvl 4 will most likely cost less than 2 lvl312's but i have no idea on pricing so i could be wrong. The lvl3 is supposedly more musical though but ive never heard either so i cant comment on that exactly but comparing older model re subs the sx is similar to the lvl4 and the se is similar to the lvl3, i preferred the sound of the sx (both were pairs of 12's) as i already stated before the single 15" lvl4 would be the way i go in your scenario. unless the lvl3 12's cost less, then i would go that route. either way its going to be the same size enclosure and same power and will have similar outputs but i would imagine the lvl4 would handle a little more abuse than the lvl3 |
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Platinum Member Username: Rovin1 15 = 152.5 DBs ...Trinidad & T... Post Number: 16013 Registered: Jul-05 | take a browse on the DC audio forum - they have alot of info ... |
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Gold Member Username: Talon01Team dc audio, Pa Usa Post Number: 2170 Registered: Jun-07 | correct^^^^ |
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Bronze Member Username: Whatmh5Post Number: 27 Registered: Dec-09 | Alright, sounds good guys. I'll have a look around there. Also, I can get a lvl 4 15 for less than 2 lvl 3 12's... But, the lvl 4 only has 1 mm more of xmas. (22.5 on the lvl 3 and 23.5 on the lvl 4) Is that xmas total? or one way? |
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Gold Member Username: Talon01Team dc audio, Pa Usa Post Number: 2172 Registered: Jun-07 | email me the price you where quoted then matt. let me see if i can get you a better deal |
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Bronze Member Username: Whatmh5Post Number: 28 Registered: Dec-09 | email sent |
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Gold Member Username: MendonmafiaUSA Post Number: 1977 Registered: Aug-06 | x max is one way. so its 2 mm more total excursion. i mean if its only like a small amount more for the 12's then i might consider them. For MY particular application i guess i would only consider the 12's but thats because i prefer to seal my boxes to the cabin for maximum spl and i cant fit a 15 under my shelf with out tilting it. but since your a different app then me thats why i choose the 15 for you. If i could fit 15's under my shelf you better believe i would have 2 in my car right now and i probably would still have my alphas and one 3k since im sure i could have gotten into the 150's on music with that setup. the 12's did 144.9's and thats with no tuning and the box wasnt even completely sealed to the cabin. |
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Gold Member Username: Talon01Team dc audio, Pa Usa Post Number: 2173 Registered: Jun-07 | didnt get it matt mamula1@comcast.net |
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Bronze Member Username: Whatmh5Post Number: 29 Registered: Dec-09 | Rusty said that 2 lvl 3 12's would be better in this application... SH!T I was really leaning towards 1 lvl 4 15 too... |
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Bronze Member Username: CwruckPost Number: 56 Registered: Feb-10 | i would go with the 1 15.. that thing is an absolute beast man. no lie. i just like running single sub set ups. i think its just easier to make a box to size for one sub to fit in a car and still have room for it to breathe. 2 subs is just more money for maybe a tiny amount of dbs louder. but still i dont think the 2 lv 3s can get as loud as the 15. my friend had the 15 lv 4 and he was pushing around 2400 to it and it wanted more. i think the lv 3s would have a hard time with 2000 watts |
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Bronze Member Username: Whatmh5Post Number: 30 Registered: Dec-09 | Really? even though its rated at 1000 wrms? But, i already decided im getting an AQ1200d. I dont want to upgrade electrical, alt., etc... So at 1200 wrms, cwruck, do you think a 1 lvl 4 15 would be louder? |
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Bronze Member Username: Whatmh5Post Number: 31 Registered: Dec-09 | bump |
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Silver Member Username: Wackzirth88K-town, Il U.S. Post Number: 288 Registered: May-09 | I'd go with wat rusty said. But if u want a 15 get one. Either will be a good set-up. There's no way for sure to say which will be louder in ur car w/o a bunch of testing. Watever u go with put it in good enclosure and ull be satisfied |
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Bronze Member Username: CwruckPost Number: 59 Registered: Feb-10 | the 1 15 would be louder.. but it also depends on your car. what is the height of the trunk? i would say you want a good 18 or 19 inches or more. because your box for the 15 will probably be abot 17 in high. and u want to be able to let the bass reach the cabin.. if it cant reach the cabin in will just be stuck in the trunk where you dont want it. you basically want to let the box breathe, because if it cant, yeah your trunk will bounce and rattle but it wont sound good inside the car. so if your trunk is small like mine i would say just go with the 12's.. hope that helps |
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Platinum Member Username: InsearchofbassYork, Pennsylvania Post Number: 13653 Registered: Jun-04 | Im not busting on you cwruck but based on your other post id bet that wasnt 2400 rms but i do know the dc subs are power hungry |
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Bronze Member Username: Whatmh5Post Number: 32 Registered: Dec-09 | 17.6 cu ft. of trunk space. its a 2000 impala ls. |
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