Silver Member Username: Rds2oo8MN Post Number: 322 Registered: Nov-06 | i need an amp for them, their 300rms 600 watts max i belive i had a 1000watt qlogic amp giving them power til it gave out last night, the green light doesnt go on anymore and ive tightened all the wires and nothing, and im not gona take it into best buy and have them charge me 60 dollars to look at it. |
Platinum Member Username: Nd4spd18Philadelphia, PA Post Number: 10826 Registered: Jul-06 | 2 or 4 ohm, single or dual coil... need to know that before you can choose an amp |
Platinum Member Username: Rovin1 15 = 152.5 DBs ...Trinidad & T... Post Number: 15745 Registered: Jul-05 | model number ?.... |
Silver Member Username: Rds2oo8MN Post Number: 323 Registered: Nov-06 | its 4ohm and has daul voice coils, the model number is 1252w |
Platinum Member Username: Nd4spd18Philadelphia, PA Post Number: 10831 Registered: Jul-06 | In that case you need an amp thats 600w+ at 1 ohm |
Silver Member Username: Rds2oo8MN Post Number: 324 Registered: Nov-06 | so ill need a monoblock amp correct? |
Gold Member Username: The_image_dynamicSan Diego, California Post Number: 5475 Registered: Dec-06 | http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_7560_Orion+HCCA-D1200.html |
Gold Member Username: BonhamdTraverse City, MI Post Number: 1992 Registered: Nov-07 | id rather get the AQ1200 for $14 more double the power for $14 |
Platinum Member Username: Rovin1 15 = 152.5 DBs ...Trinidad & T... Post Number: 15757 Registered: Jul-05 | ^ for the $ id agree ... |
Silver Member Username: Rds2oo8MN Post Number: 325 Registered: Nov-06 | yeah once i get a cc im gona buy a aq1200 but for right now i gotta buy off craigslist or at retail store like bb but there sh1t is way overpriced 500 dollars for an alpine amp ha |
Gold Member Username: BonhamdTraverse City, MI Post Number: 1993 Registered: Nov-07 | i wouldnt do that man. youre going to waste your money im sure audioque will take a money order or something like that. You will save money and get a nice amp. just call audioique and see what payment options they have |
Gold Member Username: The_image_dynamicSan Diego, California Post Number: 5476 Registered: Dec-06 | An AQ1200 for two Infinity References? LOL, but you guys are the experts. |
Gold Member Username: BonhamdTraverse City, MI Post Number: 1994 Registered: Nov-07 | im not saying im an expert - i know the AQ is too much for the references this gives him room to expand if need be. its just a better value for $14 more |
Platinum Member Username: Rovin1 15 = 152.5 DBs ...Trinidad & T... Post Number: 15758 Registered: Jul-05 | i was feeling lazy to type but i didnt expect we even needed to explained that .... |
Platinum Member Username: Nd4spd18Philadelphia, PA Post Number: 10839 Registered: Jul-06 | " this gives him room to expand if need be. its just a better value for $14 more " Exactly this. There is no such thing as too much amplifier power, you don't have to use it all, and some amount of headroom is always ideal. |
Gold Member Username: The_image_dynamicSan Diego, California Post Number: 5479 Registered: Dec-06 | So, you guys recommend a 600 watt RMS amp (per sub in his config) to a guy that, judging from his current equipment, probably doesn't know how to set amp gains -- for subs that Infinity recommends between 100-300 watts RMS for because they are very efficient (93dB) ? I have installed and heard a few of these Infinity subs, and trust me they don't want 600RMS or anywhere near that, especially in the hands of someone that doesn't have alot of experience setting gains. Do not confuse this line with the Perfects, they are in a totally different league. And MS, I hope that last sentence wasn't directed at me. |
Gold Member Username: BonhamdTraverse City, MI Post Number: 1996 Registered: Nov-07 | im not confusing the subs. i know its too much power for the references......im just saying - it is a better value to buy the AQ for $14 more. it gives twice the amount of power for an upgrade down the road..... if he doesnt know how to set gains, then he could just as easily blow those subs with clipped signals from the orion for $14 extra, and double the power - it would be stupid to not get the AQ |
Platinum Member Username: Rovin1 15 = 152.5 DBs ...Trinidad & T... Post Number: 15759 Registered: Jul-05 | all the guy has to do is set the gain lower than it needs to be or put it on its lowest point & if his deck has it : also lower the sub level but hey if he can find another good quality amp thats closer to the recommended 600wrms @ 1ohm at around the same price like the AQ (& is not planning to upgrade in the near future) then by all means go right ahead ... |
Platinum Member Username: Nd4spd18Philadelphia, PA Post Number: 10842 Registered: Jul-06 | Brad, I was just agreeing with rovin and daniel, not trying to say that orion amp wouldn't be a good choice, it would be. I know infinity subs are highly efficient, and they sound pretty darn good too, i've only heard the prefects but i was impressed by them. And i do have to agree also that if the guy doesnt know how to get a gain he is just as likely or more likely to cause damage with a lower power amp. When people blow speakers clipping is the cause 90% of the time... But it is my opinion that having more amplifier power than needed is a good thing... if you don't agree i would like to know why? I know you and rovin don't get along but i think we can have an intelligent discussion here |
Gold Member Username: The_image_dynamicSan Diego, California Post Number: 5484 Registered: Dec-06 | I didn't disagree, I said "I hope that sentence wasn't directed at me" like you were trying to tell me something I didn't already know. Using much more power than needed is mostly applicable to pro audio where the speaker components are extremely heavy duty and the resulting headroom is absolutely critical. Multiple unpredictable (the musicians can at any time raise their amplifier gains feeding to the mics) and transient inputs from the mixers places an extremely difficult load on the power amps, and for any given show it is essential to have more power than needed to prevent clipping. This is one of the reasons that compression and limiting are used in every professional pro audio system. Using far too much power on a borderline entry level product such as the Infinity's is asking for trouble, especially in the hands of a novice. I don't have any problem with Rovin other than he is very annoying with the ghetto way he types, which he has said is because he uses his phone to post here. |
Platinum Member Username: Rovin1 15 = 152.5 DBs ...Trinidad & T... Post Number: 15762 Registered: Jul-05 | Like I said a few times b4 (before) , its a common thing to type shorthand 4 (for) internet purposes & (and) ppl (people) still easily understand it There are ppl who type far worst than me . When asked what is the voice coil configuration they reply "their 4ohms subs" which is supposed to mean "they are 4ohm subs" & other examples too . Their grammar & spelling is also bad but I do not say anything. I am not trying to look like 'cool' as though I am from the 'ghetto' & I am not nor do i desire to be. Looks like I will have to spend more time to type properly so I would not be thought of as being a illiterate"person ... |
Silver Member Username: Wackzirth88K-town, Il U.S. Post Number: 222 Registered: May-09 | Wat if he just wired them to 4 ohm load. Doesn't that amp do like 500 rms at 4. Then if he does upgrade he already has the amp to do it with |
Platinum Member Username: Nd4spd18Philadelphia, PA Post Number: 10864 Registered: Jul-06 | That would be a really good idea actually... at 4 ohm there should be less distortion and better DF from the amp also, although it's usually not noticable, but the amp will be more efficient. Now why didn't i think of that sooner. |