Build Log- 2 18s, 10,000w
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Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 1957 Registered: Apr-07 | I finally started rebuilding after a year without bass. Downgrade to 2 BTL 18s and an AB 1000.1. Using realm 6.5 components and an eclipse 4ch amp, but considering 3-way active. Only going to run 4 d3100s for now, but will have plenty of alt power. I'll see how it does, if voltage dips much I'll add more, I'd just rather test since I just lost my job and found out I've got another baby on the way. For now I have a dual alt system with MLA module, ~300 @ idle. Soon to be quite a bit more (around 700)  I'm running 10 runs of 1/0, some Shok, other Knu Fleks. On to pics- todays work: Built battery rack on side, built amp rack, just need to make the cover for the top and carpet everything. Then I picked up the wood, I have to make the finish cuts tomorrow but letting the store rip the large sheets makes table saw work much quicker.    The goal of this system is space while doing 150+ @30hz. I have a kid and one on the way and really need at least half of my vehicle to haul baby crap and tools. The amp rack is built to have a cover making it take up about 1.5 sqft. The batts on the drivers side will be covered, just leaving it open while building. I can't go too fancy because it'll just get messed up. The box is ~10ft net with about 115sq inches of port. Any thoughts/criticism welcome, cutting and assembling tomorrow so I'll have a LOT more pics then. A lot of things will be changing now that I have more time to do work. |
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Gold Member Username: Basebalz13Moneta, Va Usa Post Number: 1835 Registered: Aug-07 | finally you wanna get another 1000.1? i have 2 500.1's for sale :D |
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Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 1958 Registered: Apr-07 | I can't tell you how bad I want another 1000.1 I would rather have 4 500.1s, but that's just not realistic at the moment.  |
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Silver Member Username: EricmbWaycross, Georgia United States Post Number: 225 Registered: Nov-08 | aiight.. gonna be a monster |
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Platinum Member Username: Rovin1 15 = 152.5 DBs ...Trinidad & T... Post Number: 15573 Registered: Jul-05 | when u say down size what did u have b4 ? i cant remember if u can do that score at that freq it will be a sick impressive system .... |
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Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 1959 Registered: Apr-07 | Old setup was 4 btl 18s, 4 mcd-4kws My Iraggi alts sucked so much azz I ended up selling in frustration because even with 4 of Iraggi's "Best" alternators I couldn't keep my voltage up. I did a bit over 155 @ 32hz before I ripped things out, had less than 10kw to it and never got to turn it up. . Old setup was |
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Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 1960 Registered: Apr-07 | [IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o7/alpinemayn/DSC01381.jpg[/IMG] Found a pic from forever ago. |
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Gold Member Username: Basebalz13Moneta, Va Usa Post Number: 1837 Registered: Aug-07 | u with mechman still ? |
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Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 1963 Registered: Apr-07 | Going to DC Power Engineering. I still have a 250 from mechman, but DC just makes more power. |
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Gold Member Username: Hittin1TEAM REVOLUTION, La. Lake Charles... Post Number: 4041 Registered: May-07 | ^^^ my DC Power owned my Mechman. plus it is holding up a lot better. ..... so far-knock on wood |
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Platinum Member Username: Rovin1 15 = 152.5 DBs ...Trinidad & T... Post Number: 15576 Registered: Jul-05 | even with "only" 2 18s its still going to be a killer set ... |
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Platinum Member Username: InsearchofbassYork, Pennsylvania Post Number: 12708 Registered: Jun-04 | I look forward to seeing more as it progresses. |
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Gold Member Username: JtownTexas Post Number: 3951 Registered: Mar-07 | I'm in for this. |
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Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 1965 Registered: Apr-07 | I didn't get much done today, only had an hour or so, but tomorrow the fun starts. I have a friend who should be getting me some 1/2" copper buss bars, but till then I decided not to use fuse holders, just 1/4" aluminum buss bars. The amp needs 800-1000 amps of fusing depending on who you talk to and where you're reading, I have 250s and 200s so I'm debating what to use. I never thought I'd get to use my 12" miter saw that works good on masonry and metal, it was like Christmas to get to use it for once lol.  2 bars cut to fit   Mocked up to figure out where to drill things.  The aluminum bars over the amp aren't screwed in place, so things look crooked but it's straight now. They're just extra security, whatever it's worth.  Almost how I want it, it's temporary till the copper comes in. The fuse holders were really just plastic with a bolt to hold wire and fuse together, so this has about 100x more metal regardless.  I have gotten my moneys worth out of this saw.  Cut everything so tomorrow all I have to do is assemble. I used a circular saw for the last box, honestly I will never again if I don't have to, it's just so much faster to use the table saw. And perfect cuts every time is nice too.   Assembly tomorrow, I can't even hook things up till the rest of my wire comes in so I might be driving around with subs and amp just not even fully hooked up |
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Gold Member Username: BonhamdTraverse City, MI Post Number: 1959 Registered: Nov-07 | geez troy - i always like your builds...looks great man keep us posted |
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Gold Member Username: DeadrabitMarionville, MO Post Number: 2147 Registered: Jun-07 | nice taBLe saw |
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Gold Member Username: Basebalz13Moneta, Va Usa Post Number: 1839 Registered: Aug-07 | troy, do you have dual alts installed yet? |
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Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 1966 Registered: Apr-07 | I've been running them this last year, even without a system lol. I know the batts/alts will hold 4-5kw because I could run at idle with a mcd-4kw and 3 batts and not drop below 14. I figure with one more battery I should be good to give each 2500w until I throw on another alternator or two and really get to crank things up. I know I need more batteries but I'm not willing to give up any space I don't have to. I'll probably be ordering my alt(s) in another 2-3 weeks, but I have a lot of other stuff to keep me working on things in the mean time. |
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Silver Member Username: Kingandsons07TEAM NEBRASKA Lincoln,NE Post Number: 954 Registered: Aug-08 | GO TO WORK =) |
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Gold Member Username: BonhamdTraverse City, MI Post Number: 1960 Registered: Nov-07 | and congrats to the baby on the way |
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Gold Member Username: DuckaShelby Twp., MI United States Post Number: 1270 Registered: Jan-08 | ^x2 |
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Gold Member Username: Basebalz13Moneta, Va Usa Post Number: 1842 Registered: Aug-07 | btw, i burped 2 500.1's at .5 ohms each on 300 amp fuse ;) and ya congrats on the 2nd baby! |
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Gold Member Username: Snowball123West Allis, WI Post Number: 3256 Registered: Oct-07 | ^want a cookie? |
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Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 1967 Registered: Apr-07 | I realize I gave away my 200s, so I'm just going to use 250s. Thanks, we just found out so we have quite a while before we know the exact due date, but it's at least 8 months now. These pics were taken with my phone because I forgot my camera at home. I have to upload the ones from my camera so I'll post these in the mean time: Assembled the box completely today, just have to throw some terminals in (using bolts again) and the subs/wiring. Started with the bottom and sides  Back wall, indented to fit over the amp rack.  3/4 round over on the face.   And the front is on   Ready for the top and to cut some holes.   Got a new toy a few weeks ago I've been dying to use. I've had a rotozip, but there was a set on sale with tons of attachments at Lowes one day. It's a circle jig for the rotozip that cuts up to 20" diameter holes.   Small review: If you don't have a jasper or good router jig, but have a rotozip buy this. It's like $20 by itself, and can be helpful. It is extremely easy to use, and pretty accurate. On the downside it has a tendency to start drifting off it's mark after a while, but not bad. The base for the rotozip is adjustable in height so you can sort of plunge, but without the plunge router bass it isn't very sturdy so you may have some dimples in your perfect holes. Overall it's pretty quick, small, and better than a jigsaw. First hole in the first layer.  I'll have more pictures as soon as I get them off my camera and resize them. Some time tonight. |
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Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 1968 Registered: Apr-07 | I swung by my house for lunch to grab my camera and subs. Just took a quick pic of them, I bought them in Oct 06, so there have been quite a few changes since I bought these lol:  I wasn't completely happy with the way the rotozip cut the holes compared to my router, but it did a good enough job anyway. Finished with the wood work   5/8" all thread bracing:   Drilling for the rod  More drilling lol it seemed to take forever.  The bottom with the rod countersunk.  Top to bottom bracing:  More drilling:  And finished with the wood cutting.  Tomorrow I just need to put terminals in and wire it up, hope to get it done but I'll be pretty busy with work. I found out there is no store within an hour of me that carries 1/0 or terminals. It's retarded. |
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Gold Member Username: Basebalz13Moneta, Va Usa Post Number: 1843 Registered: Aug-07 | stfu snow i was just letting him know they are a little more efficent than the ratings |
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Gold Member Username: Basebalz13Moneta, Va Usa Post Number: 1844 Registered: Aug-07 | btw troy leave a comment :D http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/index.php?showtopic=59235 |
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Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 1969 Registered: Apr-07 | Too close to getting myself in trouble to comment For some reason some like Iraggi, he's sure never been good to me. He's the only questionable business on the site, and would be better off removed. I understand he's trying to change his image, but he should start by fixing his old problems and making angry past customers want to do business with him again. Nice thread title lol. |
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Gold Member Username: Basebalz13Moneta, Va Usa Post Number: 1846 Registered: Aug-07 | lol i hear ya was you being serious in the post? and thanks i thought it was "cute" and great box working skillz man |
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Diamond Member Username: WingmanaliveWww.stainles... .ecrater.com Post Number: 21493 Registered: Jun-06 | Marry me Troy. Right here. Right now.  Keep the fagola coments to yourselves. |
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Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 1970 Registered: Apr-07 | Thanks. I'd love to see him actually do it, but I do want 2 more alts. I am going to buy DC, but for the price I'd buy one if it actually worked. Now if I got a DOA alt or one that did 10 amps at idle again I would be pissed, and I wouldn't be able to take it up with the Iraggi personally. If he'll transfer the warranty and trade you out for a 150+ idle gm alt I will seriously buy it from you. Thanks, I usually use all finish nails, but without my normal clamps I figured screws would tighten things down till the glue dries a bit more. It is really a solid box for sure, but I honestly doubt it'll do what I want after seeing it's actual dimensions in my vehicle. I might go a different route if this doesn't work - I was considering a 21" IA warden or 2 since the AA/Fi 22s seem distant, but I don't know how well they handle the power for daily. Just one of those things I don't know much about the sub and I'm not willing to pay out the azz in recones. |
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Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 1971 Registered: Apr-07 | As long as you can deal with my current wife sticking around, and don't shake the baby... |
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Gold Member Username: Basebalz13Moneta, Va Usa Post Number: 1847 Registered: Aug-07 | Actually, what if i can get ya a warden? or two and a buddy of mine plans on puttin a stetsom 14k on EACH 15" warden, and burping TWO 14k per subs :D so i think one or two would handle that 1000.1 just fine P.S. imma be getting two and running 4 Sundown 4500's on them :D |
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Diamond Member Username: WingmanaliveWww.stainles... .ecrater.com Post Number: 21494 Registered: Jun-06 |
Sh1t now ppl are gonna talk.  |
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Gold Member Username: Van_manBoston South, MA Post Number: 5035 Registered: Mar-06 | very nice.. And Congrads to you and the wife. |
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Silver Member Username: Kingandsons07TEAM NEBRASKA Lincoln,NE Post Number: 956 Registered: Aug-08 | hummm carpet? |
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Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 1972 Registered: Apr-07 | Yes carpet. Probably a charcoal, but there's no audio shop within about an hour, and they want like $10/ft so I'm going to be ordering offline soon. I want to test the box before wasting money on making it look good. If it sounds like crap (which it might) I'll be rebuilding again a bit differently. If you can email me a price on those wardens I'd appreciate it. I really want to stick with Fi, but they are just too far out from finishing. |
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Gold Member Username: Hittin1TEAM REVOLUTION, La. Lake Charles... Post Number: 4044 Registered: May-07 | lookin' good. .. Slow down o the baby makin'.. You might need a bigger T.V. something that will keep you occupied... You don't want to end up with as many kids as I have... I had a blast makin' em though! lol |
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Gold Member Username: The_image_dynamicSan Diego, California Post Number: 5383 Registered: Dec-06 | Mark, it's just as fun when she doesn't get pregnant. Looks great Troy, I would throw some Herculiner/Durabak on there if it turns out worth keeping. |
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Gold Member Username: Hittin1TEAM REVOLUTION, La. Lake Charles... Post Number: 4045 Registered: May-07 | my youngest oops.... actually he was planned after his brother died... |
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Gold Member Username: DuckaShelby Twp., MI United States Post Number: 1271 Registered: Jan-08 | Squidbillies is a hillarious show... Cute kid! |
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Gold Member Username: Basebalz13Moneta, Va Usa Post Number: 1850 Registered: Aug-07 | i dont have ur email nemore! |
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Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 1974 Registered: Apr-07 | tejcurrent@yahoo.com A few more pics after I get something to eat. More cell pics, but I didn't have a camera. |
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Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 1975 Registered: Apr-07 | Cut the ground runs from the amp to the battery.  Shok industries 1/0. Seems like rf or kicker flex. 5200 strand count. I'll upload some comparison pics but it's pretty much like any other decent 1/0- I just really like the black.  Got the terminals in today. I used to run a bolt for every wire input so I can change the wiring from outside the box, but honestly that's not really an option here - just 2 ohms.  Slapped the fuses in place. Can't wait to get copper, should make it look a bit nicer.  I was going to run some temporary wire just to get things going till my red knu comes in, but the old stinger stuff I have just isn't flexible enough, and I can't see wasting ring terminals just for a week or so. Just posted this pic because of all those who bched about the tinsels on their original BTLs. This sub was bought in October of '06, played on a 2000w hifonics amp for a few months till I bought memphis 4kws and ran like that for 2 years. There's barely any wear visible at all. Tinsel slap my azz.  Now watch me f it up lol. Wiring the subs up tomorrow, probably running my grounds too. |
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Gold Member Username: Basebalz13Moneta, Va Usa Post Number: 1851 Registered: Aug-07 | nice get to work |
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Silver Member Username: M0nstarToledo, OH U.S. Post Number: 368 Registered: Dec-08 | hey i know since your running 10 strands of 1/0 wire this may not be the easiest thing to do, but I have pretty much the same setup as youu, i have my amp rack about 2 inches off the floor of the car, and i ran all the power/ ground/ speaker wires/ RCAs all the way under the carpet then through the bottom of it, so there are no wires showing whatsoever. you may have thought of this already but i just thought id chip in my 2 cents to try to help |
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Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 1978 Registered: Apr-07 | Can you elaborate a bit more with what you mean? I have a few more runs to put in, but pretty much I just drilled a huge hole in the firewall and ran it all under the carpet on the drivers side. The RCAs and speaker wire is on the opposite side of the vehicle. Is this what you meant, because I'm always up for improvements. Thanks. |
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Platinum Member Username: Rovin1 15 = 152.5 DBs ...Trinidad & T... Post Number: 15582 Registered: Jul-05 | looking good so far .... |
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Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 1979 Registered: Apr-07 | Wired the subs up yesterday. Each sub in series then parallel @ 2 ohms final load. All I need is power wire and it's ready to test. I have a feeling I'll be rebuilding again soon, which is why I spent so little effort making things look nice.        It is really time consuming to tighten that nut 1/4 turn at a time. There just isn't enough room to fit anything else in there lol.    Plenty of room left for baby stuff. We went pumpkin shopping yesterday and bought several while hauling all kinds of other stuff.  |
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New member Username: SlionnmelissaPost Number: 6 Registered: Oct-09 | thanks useful! |
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Gold Member Username: ShortysetniesAndrew Capps, NC US Post Number: 3405 Registered: Mar-06 | Is the port gonna unload off the back hatch? Looks WAY too close IMO |
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Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 1980 Registered: Apr-07 | The box is very close to the back hatch. It will definitely load off of it in some way - not sure how well it's going to work yet. Last time it was just a bit further in and it worked out great- Helped me save air space and dropped the tuning quite a bit. If I'm unhappy with it I'll rebuild, I figured it's worth trying since it's worked well in the past. |
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Silver Member Username: Kingandsons07TEAM NEBRASKA Lincoln,NE Post Number: 958 Registered: Aug-08 | GOOD SH*T!!!! lol can't wait to see a vid! |
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Gold Member Username: Basebalz13Moneta, Va Usa Post Number: 1853 Registered: Aug-07 | finish it already.... |
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Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 1983 Registered: Apr-07 | Today I wired up my line driver, I'll have to upload pics tomorrow. Pretty much soldered in power wire and ran all the connections. I'm using the Memphis unit I had before. It's a pain to adjust the amps output with where it's located and how it's held down. Plus my Alpine H/U has 1v pre-out. It's much easier to change the input voltage to the amp, though until I get the rest of my alts/batteries I probably wont be able to crank it up full tilt anyway. It's done except for wiring the amp to power. I don't have enough power wire. It's in transit- 50ft roll of 1/0 Knu Fleks for the last runs of power and the wire for the amp. Should be here Wednesday. I thought I had a ton of crimp ring terminals, but unfortunately I found out I was short after ordering the wire. I ordered the terminals from a local shop, so should have another 40 by Wed. too. Now I'm trying to figure out a rack for the fuse holders under the hood. Again, more pics tomorrow, but given the wire comes in on time I'll have it up and running Wednesday night/Thursday morning. |
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Platinum Member Username: InsearchofbassYork, Pennsylvania Post Number: 12781 Registered: Jun-04 | Anxiously waiting for vids. |
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Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 1985 Registered: Apr-07 | Time to solder on some terminals on the grounds.    I use 1/2" pex crimpers. Very easy to use.  I shove a bolt on the center line just to help roll it down evenly.    Now I just need power tomorrow. |
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Gold Member Username: MendonmafiaUSA Post Number: 1830 Registered: Aug-06 | not rippin on u or nothin but my viced crimps look a lot better. i just vice half. then the half thats still sticking out i wrap over the lower one. once there wrapped over each other and tight i just crank it really tight in the middle. makes a really tight crimp then i solder them. |
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Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 1988 Registered: Apr-07 | No problem, I like these better. They're about as tight as you can possibly get them- you could pull on them all day and not have one pop off. It's really fast too, I just solder for peace of mind. It doesn't really matter once the cover is over the back end of the terminal anyway, all you see is the exposed end and the pretty wire. |
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Gold Member Username: Hittin1TEAM REVOLUTION, La. Lake Charles... Post Number: 4060 Registered: May-07 | X2 with Capps... Looks like it will be just a few inches from rear hatch... Other than that. looks like it is gonna wang. Great install. Much cleaner than mine.... As a matter of fact, it is not even close. lol I'm gonna try to fix that though... Everything is coming out since my subs are gone and I am waiting on my new subs... |
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Gold Member Username: Snowball123West Allis, WI Post Number: 3268 Registered: Oct-07 | Where'd you get that shi*ty wire? |
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Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 1990 Registered: Apr-07 | Thanks, x3 with Capps, it's very close lol. I'm really thinking about switching subs or rebuilding to make things prettier. The biggest problem I'd have in competitions is that I'm above the window line, and there are lots of guys locally with walls burping high frequencies. Basically I will only win #1 in my class when the guys with real walls aren't there |
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Silver Member Username: Kingandsons07TEAM NEBRASKA Lincoln,NE Post Number: 959 Registered: Aug-08 | whats wrong with the wire? |
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Gold Member Username: MendonmafiaUSA Post Number: 1838 Registered: Aug-06 | the wire looks pretty dam nice if u ask me. knu flex right? |
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Platinum Member Username: Rovin1 15 = 152.5 DBs ...Trinidad & T... Post Number: 15590 Registered: Jul-05 | how far is the box from the rear hatch ... |
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Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 1991 Registered: Apr-07 | Its shok wire, similar to knu fleks. Guess which forum member I bought it from My 50 ft of red fleks just came in, went out to buy solder so pics shortly. Going to get the wire all cut and soldered tonight so I can just drop it in when its light out. Vids tomorrow If my terminals come in, otherwise I will only be running 2 runs of power so 1/2 volume should be safe. |
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Gold Member Username: Drant19DUB-C, TX Post Number: 2121 Registered: Aug-07 | looks like a decent install at best Troy.. honestly, I expected more.... lol just messin with ya, looks like its gonna be a beast and great install. |
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Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 1994 Registered: Apr-07 | Thanks Abarca lol. It isn't the best, but I this is like my "work vehicle" install. Everything just has to be bolted down and soldered so it doesn't move. Anything exposed will be beaten up unfortunately. Today with everything in I hauled 100 linear feet of molding, a bunch of paint and stuff, 2 people, and a 36x80 wood door in the back half of my vehicle with plenty of room to spare. I'm really trying to buy the E-350 van off my mom and use that for work. There's sooo much room in that thing I could wall it off with these 2 18s, shove a crap of batteries in, and still build a separate wall in back for tools and stuff. Don't see that happening though Wire came in today, but the mfers who were supposed to get my 1/0 terminals didn't. I could have ordered offline if I wanted them tomorrow. I HATE dealing with shops because I have only dealt with 1 that was decent. They lie to get business, don't know wtf they're doing. How do you have 4 15's in a wall do less than 140db? Ask a shop anywhere near Myrtle Beach SC, they can recreate their demo car for you. /Rant. 50 ft of Kolossus Fleks. It feels like more than 21lbs but thats the shipping weight.   Shok vs Knu - black is shock, red is knu.  This is some thick wire, the wire has a lower strand count than the shok, but is certainly much thicker. It has a poon jacket though, very thin, but very flexible.  Unlike most wire I've used it's actually thick enough to hold a terminal in place, it's very hard to jam all the wire in without losing a few strands.   Crimped and ready for solder. No pics of that since it's just repetition.  More pics tomorrow after I hook up the amp. I don't know when that will be since I don't have terminals to hook up all the wire. |
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Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 1995 Registered: Apr-07 | [IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o7/alpinemayn/Mechman6.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o7/alpinemayn/Mechman7.jpg[/IMG] Just thought I'd add a few pics of under the hood. I'm getting ready to change that, but dual alts, K&N intake makes it easy to do alt work and see what's going on in there. |
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Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 1996 Registered: Apr-07 | Here are some pics of when I did my doors, Realm 6.5 components. I'm too lazy to upload the pictures here, just links to them (sorry). A door pack of Damplifier Pro, plus 2 gallons of Spectrum. [IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o7/alpinemayn/RPD17.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o7/alpinemayn/RPD5.jpg[/IMG] I put 1 layer of damplifier on the inner and outer parts of the rear doors, but there was not enough to go around on the front. I put 1 layer on the entire outer skin, and some around the panels where the speakers rest. [IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o7/alpinemayn/FDD3.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o7/alpinemayn/RDD12.jpg[/IMG] Cleaned well with acetone and ready for Spectrum. [IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o7/alpinemayn/FPD3.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o7/alpinemayn/RPD31.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o7/alpinemayn/FDD5.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o7/alpinemayn/FPD4.jpg[/IMG] I put 2-3 coats on top of the Damplifier, and went heavier where there I couldn't get the mat. [IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o7/alpinemayn/speakers3.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o7/alpinemayn/speakers6.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o7/alpinemayn/speakers5.jpg[/IMG] I got the components for free, I can't complain especially for the money. I'd love to do a nice 2 or 3-way active setup though, but there is no local shop I trust to help with the process and I don't have time right now. Anyway, just wanted to throw some pics up of the rest of the truck. |
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Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 1997 Registered: Apr-07 | I got 8 runs of wire through the firewall before I ran out of space today. I don't feel like cutting more holes or a bigger hole, and honestly even if I was pulling 1200a from the front I'd be good so I'm just leaving it. Also 2 runs + battery wiring is almost 40 ft somehow. It's running, but here's the deal: I don't have enough terminals to run more than 1 run of wire from the front, so it's going off of a single 250a fuse. I didn't let the voltage drop below 15v and it was a bit louder than I expected. Once I got on the highway it didn't drop below 15.3, really just stayed at 15.4 so I feel confident saying I was not pulling much power at all. Did a small hair trick so I'm hopeful. I only have 2 batteries in, with one fuse, and I'd say it's probably around 149db @ 42 (ear-o-meter) with 3000rms. I tried to take a vid but neighbors came out before I could really do one. I'll have pics tonight, vids tomorrow given the terminals come in. |
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Gold Member Username: Basebalz13Moneta, Va Usa Post Number: 1877 Registered: Aug-07 | ooomggg im so anxious :D |
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Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 1998 Registered: Apr-07 | Me too. Did you ever send an email about those Wardens btw? If you did I missed it. I just realized I have a 1000 word paper due for a class by midnight, so I need to get started, pics if I finish in time tonight, otherwise I'll just upload tomorrow. In another thread someone said they needed to run wire under the vehicle. Not here fortunately, I fit everything under the carpet with absolutely no issues. Actually after a point it becomes a big flat part instead of lumps making it seem factory again |
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Gold Member Username: Basebalz13Moneta, Va Usa Post Number: 1878 Registered: Aug-07 | i have not sir, shoot me a email basebalz 13 at cs dot com |
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Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 1999 Registered: Apr-07 | Sent. I forgot to ask in the email, which you can either post here or in the email, do you have any experience or thoughts on those Wardens? Thanks. |
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Gold Member Username: Hittin1TEAM REVOLUTION, La. Lake Charles... Post Number: 4066 Registered: May-07 | <----- anxiously waiting... |
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Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 2000 Registered: Apr-07 | MLA ftw. Thats the high setting after about 1/2 hour of driving, the low is around 14.8-15.     My truck is filthy inside and out [gdamn!] Popped the seat loose to help run things quickly.   What a dirty back floor. |
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Gold Member Username: SomedonniedudeIllinois Braaap MX Post Number: 2802 Registered: May-07 | Lookin good so far! |
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Gold Member Username: Drant19DUB-C, TX Post Number: 2123 Registered: Aug-07 | d@mn troy that tahoe needs a steam cleanin!! but good work |
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Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 2007 Registered: Apr-07 |  So the dash broke worse I really need to fix that- it rattles really bad. Tightened up the speaker wires, cleaned things up some. God it's the biggest pain in the azz to do this.  Quick picture of the subs  The port is small in relation to what it could be, but it's big enough to fit my Dr. Pepper good lol.   Not many pictures because of A LOT of cutting, crimping, soldering. Anyone running more than this gets my respect, I bet I spent 3 or more hours from start to finish. I finally got all 4 fuses in.  This next pic made me really unhappy, I could barely fit 1/2 the wire on those 2 terminals, it's just temporary till I get the copper buss bars in, but I was still limited to 1 run of power from the front just hooking up the amp.  So I made something temporary. It is pretty thin, but it's the equivalent of 1/4" x 1" bus bar, so it's plenty enough for my needs till the copper comes in.     Gained a few more terminals.   I've been using some mapp gas for the terminals, solders much quicker  Hooked up the pre-existing wires.   All 8 runs through the firewall. I put gas line as a grommet, fasted with glue/silicon.  All the wires hooked up. I'll still do a lot of cleaning up once the final copper bus bars come in, just wanted to get it running and see what it will do.  No vids because the camera died, but with drops to 14.4v, about 4500rms I was getting some nice air movement. I still can't turn it up all the way till I get more than the 3 batts/2 alts I have, but that should change in a few weeks. Next pics: making a template for the quads |
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Silver Member Username: Simple_smithLapeer, Michigan United States Post Number: 143 Registered: Dec-08 | HOLY CHIT THATS A TON OF WIRING! nice job though. |
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Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 2008 Registered: Apr-07 | The reason for the lack of time spent on the build:  |
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Gold Member Username: Van_manBoston South, MA Post Number: 5056 Registered: Mar-06 | Nice work troy. Cute kid. How old is she? Dont want to sound mean, but all babies look alike to me, unless they are ugly or something, but Im not ever calling anyones baby ugly... |
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Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 2009 Registered: Apr-07 | 6 months old, just really sitting up. Man, this is the 2nd baby I've ever held in my life. I hate holding babies. I agree, they all look alike till you have one, then once you have one you'll swear they're the next Gerber baby lol. At least you could tell it's a girl, that's more than most. |
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Gold Member Username: Van_manBoston South, MA Post Number: 5058 Registered: Mar-06 | lol, yea, I was gonna say Gerber baby..The frilly things on the shirt helped me.. |
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Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 2010 Registered: Apr-07 | We try. Going to get her ears pierced next weekend probably. She actually has a decent amount of hair coming in, but it's extremely blond and hard to see unless it's wet. It's still only about 2" long though. |
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Gold Member Username: Drant19DUB-C, TX Post Number: 2130 Registered: Aug-07 | sweet install and a cute lookin kid... FTW u got a good life troy |
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Gold Member Username: Snowball123West Allis, WI Post Number: 3298 Registered: Oct-07 | coming along nicely Troy. |
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Platinum Member Username: Rovin1 15 = 152.5 DBs ...Trinidad & T... Post Number: 15615 Registered: Jul-05 | ^x2 ..... |
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Silver Member Username: M0nstarToledo, OH U.S. Post Number: 380 Registered: Dec-08 | ^x3 i thought that EYE had it bad, i just had to re-run all speakers and tweets into my highs amp (which only takes 8 ga. ftw) into a small chamber with limited hand space... i'd take my situation ovcer your anyday!.....on the other hand yours would be worth it |
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Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 2013 Registered: Apr-07 | Please keep in mind there is nowhere nearby for me to park and shoot vids without making someone angry, so they tend to be really short. When I get a chance to drive out to the boonies I'll get some longer ones. First of two vids finished uploading. Still loading the second. IMO the second shows the air moving a bit better, but it should do a nice hair trick when I can get the help of a female. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxAzJ_IgIqg |
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Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 2014 Registered: Apr-07 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OixJdfVPmsc |
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Platinum Member Username: Rovin1 15 = 152.5 DBs ...Trinidad & T... Post Number: 15618 Registered: Jul-05 | shweeet ! ... |
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Gold Member Username: Hittin1TEAM REVOLUTION, La. Lake Charles... Post Number: 4092 Registered: May-07 | How does it compare to last setup? |
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Silver Member Username: Kingandsons07TEAM NEBRASKA Lincoln,NE Post Number: 980 Registered: Aug-08 | looks great! x2 what Mark said^^ |
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Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 2016 Registered: Apr-07 | It sounds as good or better, but it is not as loud by a fair bit. I'm buying a Fluke clamp meter this week, I'd like to get a true rms meter but for 5-600 dollars it's a bit out of my price range. They have a nice one that does a/c and d/c for about 200 new locally I'll probably get to test with. If I'm within a few percent I doubt it will matter. I will put it this way, with around 300 amps of idling current and 3 total batteries (d3100s) it drops to 14.4 volts with the way I have it set up. From my math that still leaves a lot of power to pull, but I haven't had time to set things up right. The subs aren't breaking a sweat, and with the engine rpms around 12-1500 the voltage stays at 15.2 and up. I'm thinking about turning it up more I just don't want to start clipping. I played 2 songs like this while driving and the subs were slightly warmer than air temp. Until I make sure I'm getting as close to 10kw as possible I don't want to say for sure, but I can say this setup isn't as loud as I want it. It's hard to compare mid 150s to low 150s. It's definitely not painful to sit in. I'm going to guess it'll do 152 @ 42hz, but I think it'll be a struggle to get 150 @ 32 out of it. I still have a lot of work, next week I should have a 3400 up front, with just 3 3100s in back. A few weeks later I should have over 700 amps of idling output to compensate |
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Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 2019 Registered: Apr-07 | Just a teaser pic: I looked at a sample of what my buss bars will be similar to, this is 1/2" x 2" thick solid copper, I'm going to do 1/2" x 3" for the batts and 1" x 1" for the fuse holder I believe.  |
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Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 2021 Registered: Apr-07 | I blew a dust cap off today. The subs never got warm, but sure got some niiiice movement going as I was gradually turning things up. I'll probably build a new enclosure if I have any more problems, but I figure I've been using the things for 3 years with 4kw+. Just needs reglued and should be good- probably pick up some CA glue tomorrow if possible. |
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