MB Quart vs. Alpine

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Username: Goatin

Ohio U.S.A

Post Number: 1296
Registered: Jan-06

Posted on Saturday, June 03, 2006 - 17:18 GMT

?????????

With only one I would say get the Alpine MRD-M605, If It is 4ohm DVC.

But if you ever plan on getting another one get the MBquart.

I say this because street value to under educated people is higher than ebay value and Alpine is well known. :-)

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Username: Dustin3

Tigard, Or U.S.

Post Number: 1422
Registered: Oct-05

Posted on Saturday, June 03, 2006 - 17:55 GMT

mb quart is way better.

juliob

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Username: Juliob

Santo DomingoDominican Re...

Post Number: 660
Registered: Dec-05

Posted on Saturday, June 03, 2006 - 21:31 GMT

i hate to say this but, raven WTF, you're going to buy one "named brand" model because people will know about it but MB quart that is not a "named brand" for people who doesn't know about car audio you're not buying it??? HMMMM...

go with mb quart and don't think about selling it before you buy it

Douglas

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Username: Deathshadowbal

Post Number: 8
Registered: May-06

Posted on Saturday, June 03, 2006 - 21:34 GMT

why are they available so cheap?

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Username: Dustin3

Tigard, Or U.S.

Post Number: 1433
Registered: Oct-05

Posted on Sunday, June 04, 2006 - 00:36 GMT

wut? mb quart amps? not that cheap. their raa1000 puts out 1000 @ 1 ohm and its like 250 bucks. still good price.

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Username: Goatin

Ohio U.S.A

Post Number: 1302
Registered: Jan-06

Posted on Sunday, June 04, 2006 - 01:37 GMT

Well juliob if he has a 2 ohm sub and wired it to 1ohm that would be 1000 watts off the amp And
That MB only does 250 RMS at 4ohm.

If its 4 ohm it can be wired to 2ohm meaning that MB will only do 500RMS and the Alpine MRD-M605 does 600RMS @ 2 ohms.

And when he decides to upgrade Alpine anything is easy to sell , Yes MB is nice but unkowledgeable people would rather have audiobahn because everyone thinks audiobahn is top shelf, And MB is not all that well known.

But Robbie if you get two Alpinr R's I would get the MB and 2 4ohm subs.

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Username: Robman0079

Post Number: 15
Registered: Jun-06

Posted on Monday, June 05, 2006 - 02:21 GMT

Yeah...ive got 2 Alpine Type E's @ 4 ohms.250wrmsX2. i just want somethin that will beat the crap outta these subs. i really dont care if they blow bc i have a 4 yr warranty, so if you have ne other suggestion for somethin that will beat up my subs under $300 (not off eBay bc i got suspended somehow) then help me out!!! also not a crappy brand , somethin that will last me a while.

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Username: Robman0079

Post Number: 16
Registered: Jun-06

Posted on Monday, June 05, 2006 - 02:24 GMT

i mean if the MB Quart is worth it, then ill jus get that. If there is somethin on the market that im missin then help me out....

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Username: Dustin3

Tigard, Or U.S.

Post Number: 1447
Registered: Oct-05

Posted on Monday, June 05, 2006 - 02:37 GMT

the mb is nice

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Username: Goatin

Ohio U.S.A

Post Number: 1330
Registered: Jan-06

Posted on Monday, June 05, 2006 - 02:49 GMT

True but he can only wire those subs to 1 or 8ohm to that amp

1ohm-1000RMS 400 over
8ohm-125 RMS 375 under

Maris

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Username: Johammbass

Cork, Cork Ireland

Post Number: 234
Registered: May-06

Posted on Monday, June 05, 2006 - 10:31 GMT

400 over is not a bad thing, it's not like you have to run the amp at rated power :-)

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Username: Robman0079

Post Number: 17
Registered: Jun-06

Posted on Monday, June 05, 2006 - 21:15 GMT

hey i was jus looking at the two mb-quart amplifiers that i was thinkin bout gettin and why is this one (http://www.pricegrabber.com/rd.php/pg=~~3/r=1552/m=7873093/q=n/mt=0~2~219.00~198 .35~208.68~1~~/k=e7a4f32edcae186a5c10d65bec871a3a/search=MB%20Quart%20RAA2400) priced so much lower than this one (http://www.pricegrabber.com/rd.php/pg=~~3/r=1552/m=7873092/q=n/mt=1~2~388.35~259 .00~323.68~1~~/k=968a9e64873ea9f940ed966b80242f79/search=MB%20Quart%20RAA1000). The RAA-1000 only pushes 500wrmsX1 @ 2ohms while the RAA-2400 pushes 400wrmsX2 @ 2ohms(800wrms X1 @ 2 ohms). Am i missing something or is the 2-channel amp(2400) more powerful than the mono(1000)????????

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Username: Goatin

Ohio U.S.A

Post Number: 1352
Registered: Jan-06

Posted on Monday, June 05, 2006 - 21:56 GMT

mono is almost always more expensive + More power = More cost.

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Username: Robman0079

Post Number: 18
Registered: Jun-06

Posted on Monday, June 05, 2006 - 22:18 GMT

so even tho the RAA2400 says that it has more power the RAA1000 actually has more power?

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Username: Goatin

Ohio U.S.A

Post Number: 1359
Registered: Jan-06

Posted on Monday, June 05, 2006 - 22:47 GMT

?????????
the RAA2400 is only 400 rms total.

only look at RMS.

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Username: Robman0079

Post Number: 24
Registered: Jun-06

Posted on Monday, June 05, 2006 - 22:53 GMT

alright thanks man but is that 100 watts worth an extra 50 bucks

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Username: Goatin

Ohio U.S.A

Post Number: 1361
Registered: Jan-06

Posted on Monday, June 05, 2006 - 23:05 GMT

RAA1000	1000RMS	1CH
RAA2400	400RMS	2ch	or800RMS Bridged

If you are powering a sub or 2 get the raa1000.

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Username: Robman0079

Post Number: 25
Registered: Jun-06

Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 00:57 GMT

they are only single voice coil therefore it wont run at 1 ohm so it has to be 2 ohms which RAA1000 is 500 watts rms the two channel is 800watts rms bridged at 2 ohms am i correct???

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Username: Robman0079

Post Number: 27
Registered: Jun-06

Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 00:58 GMT

they are only single voice coil therefore it wont run at 1 ohm so it has to be 2 ohms which RAA1000 is 500 watts rms the two channel is 800watts rms bridged at 2 ohms am i correct???

juliob

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Username: Juliob

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Post Number: 669
Registered: Dec-05

Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 13:23 GMT

just get an amp that puts 600or 700 at2 ohms, get audiobahn a8000t

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Username: Robman0079

Post Number: 28
Registered: Jun-06

Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 13:40 GMT

so your saying that audiobahn amp would be better than the mb quart RAA2400 or RAA1000

killerzracing71

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Username: Killerzracing71

Fredericksburg, Virginia United states

Post Number: 863
Registered: Aug-05

Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 18:19 GMT

get that quart...i have 1....never runs hot...but for ur application..the alpine might seem better...but....when u upgrade...to 2 dual4vc subs n run 1000rms.....u will be very happy...

oh n for douglas the reason they are so cheap....i cuz they dont make them anymore....they sold out to maxxsonics....so they are just clearing stock...

rovin has that Mb amp. and a Alpine amp so he might can give u good review of both them

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Username: Rovin

Trinidad & T...

Post Number: 8075
Registered: Jul-05

Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 20:42 GMT

Robbie

ya - i hav that MB Q Raa1000 amp

ok now get this right - which subs do u intend 2 run & what is ur MAX budget ???????.....

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Username: Dustin3

Tigard, Or U.S.

Post Number: 1479
Registered: Oct-05

Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 20:53 GMT

i know^ this thread has been goin on for long enough. lol

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Username: Robman0079

Post Number: 37
Registered: Jun-06

Posted on Thursday, June 08, 2006 - 02:35 GMT

Alright this is the last post on this thread by me, the last post will be rovin. I am powering 2 Alpine type E's SVC wired to 2 ohms. they say 200 watts rms at 4 ohm.(times 2 bc i have 2 subs) so...Raa1000 or RAA2400, bc the RAA100 is 500 watt at 2 ohm and the RAA2400 says 800watt at 2 ohm so... isnt the RAA2400 more powerful in my case??? Also i dont care if i blow my subs bc i have a 4 yr warranty, so it does not matter, i really want them to blow so i can trade them in fa type R's!!! This question strictly for Rovin

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Username: Rovin

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Post Number: 8088
Registered: Jul-05

Posted on Thursday, June 08, 2006 - 03:18 GMT

k - i understand all of that

http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductID=14964

u do realise raa2400 is a 2 chan amp which is better suited 2 run components (though it can be used like any 2 chan amps 2 run subs too) BUT usually 2 chan amps r class AB which draws more current than mono blocks

raa1000
http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/ProductReview.aspx?ProductID=14965

since this amp does 500wrms @ 2ohms i would get this MONOBLOCK amp instead

& since u said u can blow ur Es & trade em in for 2 12" Rs 1242d model - then heck thats what i would do

my raa1000 when i had it bumped my Rs so good/clean/low/loud that it used 2 shake my steering column . Hope i was helpful 2 u ....

https://www.ecoustics.com/electronics/forum/car-audio/189456.html

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Username: Dustin3

Tigard, Or U.S.

Post Number: 1525
Registered: Oct-05

Posted on Thursday, June 08, 2006 - 06:01 GMT

"I am powering 2 Alpine type E's SVC wired to 2 ohms. they say 200 watts rms at 4 ohm"

if both of them are wired to 2 ohms, whats with "they say 200 watts rms @ 4 ohms"?? i dont understand what u said.

ohhh, nm. each channel. sub on eahc channel. gotcha' :-)

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Username: Dustin3

Tigard, Or U.S.

Post Number: 1526
Registered: Oct-05

Posted on Thursday, June 08, 2006 - 06:03 GMT

or not? i dont know why that sentenced confuses me.

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Username: Rovin

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Post Number: 8091
Registered: Jul-05

Posted on Thursday, June 08, 2006 - 15:15 GMT

as a side note - 2 Rs can easily handle 1200-1400wrms so they can use a even bigger amp than that raa1000 but since u were asking about it i gave my 2cents about it.......

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Username: Robman0079

Post Number: 40
Registered: Jun-06

Posted on Thursday, June 08, 2006 - 19:21 GMT

(rovin)what bigger amp would you recommend for that $250 price range

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Username: Robman0079

Post Number: 41
Registered: Jun-06

Posted on Thursday, June 08, 2006 - 19:24 GMT

(bassman)i cant find the recommended wattage for 2 ohm to those subs. all it says in the manual is 4 ohm imdependence-200wrms. it doesnt say the recommended wattage at 2 ohms

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Username: Dustin3

Tigard, Or U.S.

Post Number: 1530
Registered: Oct-05

Posted on Thursday, June 08, 2006 - 20:58 GMT

alright. you dont need a certain about of watts got a 2 ohm subs and a 4 ohm sub. a sub just handles a certain rms power, no matter what the ohm load is

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Username: Robman0079

Post Number: 44
Registered: Jun-06

Posted on Friday, June 09, 2006 - 00:12 GMT

gotcha so that mb is definitley gonna blow the sh** outta those subs

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Username: Robman0079

Post Number: 46
Registered: Jun-06

Posted on Friday, June 09, 2006 - 00:13 GMT

gotcha so that mb is definitley gonna blow the sh** outta those subs

shamus

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Username: Iravemp

Post Number: 19
Registered: May-06

Posted on Friday, June 09, 2006 - 00:46 GMT

any class d amp, which is usually mono block run cool... I used couple from cheap to expensive.. some just a little cleaner power.. get something cheap stable in 2ohm mono.. you wont go wrong