New member Username: Dr_bassTN USA Post Number: 1 Registered: Jan-06 | I'm looking for the best sub for deep, low, hard hitting, loud bass. I want to be able to shake windows on houses, maybe break my own, distort my voice at least 10 feet away, and make people say "That's too much bass man." It needs to hit at lest 150db. Any help would be nice. I'm lookin at either JL W7s or Eclipse Pro 18" Oh, and money is NOT a problem. Any brand ok but Eclipse or JL prefered. |
Bronze Member Username: YukhuiMyrtle Beach, South Carolina USA Post Number: 42 Registered: Jan-06 | http://www.ohgizmo.com/2005/10/31/worlds-most-powerful-subwoofer/ ...lol just a joke |
Bronze Member Username: Darkale85Averil park , Ny Renn Post Number: 46 Registered: Jan-06 | money not an issue what about the jackhammer? 6000watts rms i guess this thing is saposed to pound like there is no tommorow |
New member Username: Dr_bassTN USA Post Number: 4 Registered: Jan-06 | Money no problem but the Jackhammer? That thing is supposed to suck! |
Bronze Member Username: YukhuiMyrtle Beach, South Carolina USA Post Number: 44 Registered: Jan-06 | RE MT's in a hugee box |
Bronze Member Username: YukhuiMyrtle Beach, South Carolina USA Post Number: 45 Registered: Jan-06 | Well, that would cover the loudness part at least. |
New member Username: Dr_bassTN USA Post Number: 5 Registered: Jan-06 | You think that would do? Maybe two in the trunk and two in the back (taken out the back seat). |
Gold Member Username: CenusHicksville, Ohio Usa Post Number: 1133 Registered: Jan-05 | eclipse ti pro would be a badass spl sub, sq would suck but it would be loud, mabey the new re xxx, or a dd 9917. |
Bronze Member Username: YukhuiMyrtle Beach, South Carolina USA Post Number: 46 Registered: Jan-06 | Are you looking more towards SPL, SQ, or an even amount of both? |
Silver Member Username: PelonaPost Number: 269 Registered: Dec-05 | the jackhammers arent even that loud and have no sq whatsoever. an eclipse ti or w7 can get louder than that big piece of sh!t. mtx just made that subwoofer to make them more famous and a popular brand. thats also why audiobahn made their 34" inch subwoofer.mtx subs suck azz anyway. |
New member Username: Dr_bassTN USA Post Number: 6 Registered: Jan-06 | "eclipse ti pro would be a badass spl sub, sq would suck but it would be loud, mabey the new re xxx, or a dd 9917." Loud yes but hard and deep bass? |
Silver Member Username: PelonaPost Number: 270 Registered: Dec-05 | ^^^it will be deep enough. but i heard that pure spl subs like the ti pro are just loud at high frequencies but dont hit the low frequencies very well. |
Gold Member Username: CenusHicksville, Ohio Usa Post Number: 1134 Registered: Jan-05 | that im not sure, if you want loud low end bass look into the ascendant audio havoc, you might have to buy 2 of them though to get in the 150+ range. |
New member Username: Dr_bassTN USA Post Number: 7 Registered: Jan-06 | ^^^I don't care. I wanted at least 2 subs anyway. |
Gold Member Username: Tdeaton1021Near Tampa, Florida USA Post Number: 1718 Registered: Sep-04 | yes 2 or 3 Havocs and you will be very pleased. |
Gold Member Username: CenusHicksville, Ohio Usa Post Number: 1135 Registered: Jan-05 | well then the AA havoc would be perfect, what amp are you going to use and have you upgraded your electrical system to handle the 2500+watts your going to need to push those subs. |
Bronze Member Username: AlteraudiousaConcord Post Number: 64 Registered: Jan-06 | 2 Stereo Integrity Mag 15s and you'll have some fun. |
Silver Member Username: PelonaPost Number: 271 Registered: Dec-05 | does the havoc go lower than the avalanche? |
audioplus sc1 Unregistered guest | hey man i think 2 of the 12"eclipse ti's from like 2 years ago the ones that have like the 3 inch surround. and 2 audiobahn 2400watt amps. the subs have to be in very large vented enclosures. my friend brandon, has an 2nd generation rx7 with one eclipse ti 12 and an audiobahn 2400x1@1ohm and he hits 155db with it.and you can hear it from 6 blocks away. no joke but it is a hatchback.so in a regular car it might not be as good. You can diss it all you want but i am running a soundstream eg15x with a hyfonics xx olympus amp and it hits about 140 db but i had everything custom tuned and installed at the audio dealer. |
New member Username: Dr_bassTN USA Post Number: 8 Registered: Jan-06 | Thanx to all for the suggestions. I'll check em all out and let yall know what I'm gettin asap. The Havocs sound like they're the ones. But what about JL? I don't want insane SPL but decently loud and retain sq. But still, I'm gonna look into all the brands listed on here. I've had this dream of hard hittin bass and loud subs ever since I first heard em in front of my house. The car shook my whole house and then saw it bout 20 seconds later. It wasn't goin fast either! So I know it can be done. Oh and my car is a 1995 Toyota Corolla sedan. Small but I plan to take the back seat out if have to. |
Gold Member Username: CenusHicksville, Ohio Usa Post Number: 1138 Registered: Jan-05 | JL w7 will have the overall best sq of all the subs mentioned but 40hz and under the havoc would own it, the w7 will get very loud and still retain great sq but the havoc will have better low end bass, and cost a lot less. |
New member Username: Dr_bassTN USA Post Number: 10 Registered: Jan-06 | Yeah I'm startin to like those Havocs more and more. However, I've looked around at all the install shops around here in the Knoxville area and didn't find any that install Ascendant audio. I don't think I can install em by myself and get the results I want. I would rather pay someone to do top work than me screw things up. But yall think maybe three or four of those Havocs will do it? So now my question is who makes good enough amps to power those subs? |
Gold Member Username: Tdeaton1021Near Tampa, Florida USA Post Number: 1726 Registered: Sep-04 | theres alot of good amps. Zapco is a brand. damn, if you got a zapco 4kw a lot fo those SPL freaks would be quite jelous. you could run a kicker zx1500 to each. you could run 2 kx2500s or zx2500s 1 per 2 subs. theres a lot of choices....look around. |
Bronze Member Username: Dr_bassTN USA Post Number: 12 Registered: Jan-06 | Oh and one more thing. On the havoc's site it says it goes down to 31hz. What about 20hz or lower? Or would 31hz be low enough? Well the human ear can only hear down to around 20hz so 31hz could really bump if it was at a high enough db level. On my test cd it bumps good at 66-88hz. |
Gold Member Username: CenusHicksville, Ohio Usa Post Number: 1159 Registered: Jan-05 | well i don't know if the ohms will match but if they do a kicker zx1500.1 would be perfect, one for each sub would get them moving pretty good. |
Gold Member Username: James1115Wilton, Ct Post Number: 4796 Registered: Dec-04 | if you want downl low deep dirty bass the avalanche is the way to go |
Silver Member Username: PelonaPost Number: 296 Registered: Dec-05 | they dont make avalanches no more. you can only get them used from somebody now. But do any of AAs new subs match the Avalanches lowness? their fs are higher than the avalanche's. |
Gold Member Username: Tdeaton1021Near Tampa, Florida USA Post Number: 1727 Registered: Sep-04 | the fs is rated higher... however the graph looks similar down low and according to chad the lows are stil crazy low. i wouldnt doubt him... the havoc plays lower than 31hz... |
Gold Member Username: James1115Wilton, Ct Post Number: 4802 Registered: Dec-04 | I have a ava 12 brand new never been hooked up if anyone is interested |
Silver Member Username: PelonaPost Number: 310 Registered: Dec-05 | are Ascendant Audio's subs the best for low frequency? Adire Audio's subs have a pretty low Fs too like their brahma and tumult. The 15" L7 too has an Fs of 18hz and the idmax says it goes down to 10hz. i think Image D is lying though. |
New member Username: Crownsolox12Stillwater, Mn Usa Post Number: 4 Registered: Feb-06 | solo x 18", good sq and loud put it in a nice custom bux with like 3.4 cubic feet and it will sound and pound better than all if u ask me!!! i have the 12" model and its so loud i needed a new latch on my trunk!! |
Silver Member Username: PelonaPost Number: 314 Registered: Dec-05 | ^^^^^^^it will pound better but not sound better. And 3.4cuft is too small for that 18" solox. |
Unregistered guest | i dont know if this helps at all but i have a JL Audio 12" W6 subwoofer in a slot ported box for sale... it is only 2 months old and the only reason i am selling it is because my friend hooked me up with 2 2006 model 15" Kicker L7s... i will let the sub go for around 400- 450.. let me know if u are interested. |
Bronze Member Username: BuckshotPost Number: 13 Registered: Nov-05 | this guys re mt's shake a little bit ? http://www.realmofexcursion.com/videos/Resonant%20Engineering/mt18.1.wmv |
Bronze Member Username: DbtunerFredericton, New Brunswick Canada Post Number: 29 Registered: Dec-05 | what about strokers |
Bronze Member Username: Dr_bassTN USA Post Number: 13 Registered: Jan-06 | "this guys re mt's shake a little bit ? http://www.realmofexcursion.com/videos/Resonant%20Engineering/mt18.1.wmv" ^^^Damn! That's what I want! REs huh? Now we're talkin! But how would the Havocs compare to this?SQ is a good thing but I'm not an audiophile and I've lived all my life with ok sounding music so SQ really aint my priority. |
Gold Member Username: CenusHicksville, Ohio Usa Post Number: 1165 Registered: Jan-05 | well any system can shake suff if its loud enough, the mt are spl subs they have ok sq, however the havoc would own them in the sq area, the mt's will be louder. |
Gold Member Username: Tdeaton1021Near Tampa, Florida USA Post Number: 1730 Registered: Sep-04 | i think that guy is running like 17kw though. i think hes got a battery bank and twin 315A alternators... i like the video when hes in the parking lot and the stores windows are shaking |
Bronze Member Username: Dr_bassTN USA Post Number: 14 Registered: Jan-06 | Yeah, I guess there are lots of good brands out there. I just need to pick the ones I like ya know. That's what is so great bout car sound systems. Everyone has a personal preference. The Havocs and XXXs are my favorites though. Anyone know when the Havocs are coming out though? Said coming soon on their site. |
Silver Member Username: AlteraudiousaConcord Post Number: 117 Registered: Jan-06 | Stereo Integrity Mags......... |
Silver Member Username: B101Queen City, NC USA Post Number: 897 Registered: Sep-05 | TREO SSXs! 15s, or 18s! |
Silver Member Username: B101Queen City, NC USA Post Number: 899 Registered: Sep-05 | "I'm looking for the best sub for deep, low, hard hitting, loud bass. I want to be able to shake windows on houses, maybe break my own, distort my voice at least 10 feet away, and make people say "That's too much bass man." It needs to hit at lest 150db. Any help would be nice. I'm lookin at either JL W7s or Eclipse Pro 18" Oh, and money is NOT a problem." 2 TREO SSX 18s or 15s. It will do alot more than that. It will also bust ya head open wide! You will also need about 8KW of power to make them happy. |
Silver Member Username: AlteraudiousaConcord Post Number: 121 Registered: Jan-06 | hey B we need to meet up when i get the trunk done. You'll need to hear a Mag and i'll need to see your Treo. Also do you work for a shop in charlotte? |
Silver Member Username: B101Queen City, NC USA Post Number: 902 Registered: Sep-05 | Sounds cool alteraudio!! I would love to hear those Mags! I bet they sound great. I will let you hear the Treos. =D valeboykid@hotmail.com |
Silver Member Username: B101Queen City, NC USA Post Number: 903 Registered: Sep-05 | ^^ not workin for a shop, I want to start my own car audio biz this month! In process of finding a decent building, maybe something off of Monroe rd. |