Get Gas While You Can
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Silver Member Username: Sploosh56Ohio Post Number: 902 Registered: May-04 | All of the Texas refineries will shut down tonight. Gas will be $4.00 at the minimum by the end of this week. Damn hurricanes |
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Gold Member Username: Taylor17Kopperl, Texas Post Number: 2927 Registered: Jan-05 | Lol yeah, I just started a thread about that. |
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Silver Member Username: Sploosh56Ohio Post Number: 904 Registered: May-04 | yea i jsut saw that lol damn gas prices |
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Gold Member Username: Taylor17Kopperl, Texas Post Number: 2932 Registered: Jan-05 | Yup, and just as they were getting back to normal around heer from the last hurricane! I don't remember gass prices going up after any hurricanes be for? Maybe just a good excuse to jack prices up even more? *thinks* |
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Silver Member Username: Sploosh56Ohio Post Number: 906 Registered: May-04 | no they went up but because gas was so cheap ( for example hurricane andrew) and the fact that there wasn't no where near as much as demand for it with less supplies today then 12 years ago everyone feels the hit of it. This is the hurricane that may be the straw that breaks the camels back this year. Winter is going to be hard for a lot of folks.But I honestly don't think price gouging is going on much. There is jsut a lot more demand than there has been. Especially since India and China are now consuming much more gas than ever. It's jsut a simple example of suplly and demand. |
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Gold Member Username: Taylor17Kopperl, Texas Post Number: 2934 Registered: Jan-05 | Yeah, I guess... freaking China.:-) lol |
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Silver Member Username: Camaro155mphPost Number: 168 Registered: Aug-05 | they need to raise the minimum wage if gas is going to be 4.00 a gallon, where i live minimum wage is $6.75. So lets say you are a teenager that goes to high school and has a car, you work an 8 hour day on Saturday. Thats $40-45 after taxes, and it all goes into your gas tank and that sadly, gives you about 1/2 to 3/4 of a tank. Its Bullsh!t if u ask me. Your telling me I'm gonna work for 8 hours on a Saturday, and only be able to fill my tank 3/4 of the way??? and i will have no other spending money??? At least i make $9.00 an hour, which is a little better, but still its ridiculous. |
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New member Username: LivinlifePost Number: 3 Registered: Sep-05 | well that's how life is bro.. we gotta live with it. |
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Gold Member Username: SouthernrebelMonroe, Louisiana USA Post Number: 1058 Registered: Mar-04 | I make $8/hr  I work a turtle farm (no joke...a turtle farm)...bout a 45-55hr a week job our nice cool Louisiana sunshine  . In the peak season, we dig the eggs, wash em, treat em, go thru eggs, wash turtles (bout 7-12,000 a day), feed turtles, and do odd jobs around the ponds... working on a turtle farms sux...lol |
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Silver Member Username: Alias747MN Post Number: 682 Registered: Apr-05 | lol, I almost got bit by a snapping turtle the other day! |
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Gold Member Username: SouthernrebelMonroe, Louisiana USA Post Number: 1059 Registered: Mar-04 | we raise about 500,000 baby turtles a year  |
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Silver Member Username: Chaunb3400Huntsville, Alabama U.S. Post Number: 106 Registered: Jul-05 | I want a turtle for my girlfriend. Min Wage in Alabama 5.75 gas 3.25 but is going to go up. |
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Silver Member Username: MixneffectOrangevale, Ca. USA Post Number: 370 Registered: Apr-05 | i m glad my company pays for my gas. I put on anywhere from 600-1000 a week. |
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Silver Member Username: Sploosh56Ohio Post Number: 907 Registered: May-04 | do you drive a truck mixeffect? |
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Silver Member Username: MixneffectOrangevale, Ca. USA Post Number: 374 Registered: Apr-05 | ya, gmc sierra ext cab |
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Silver Member Username: Subzer0Richmond, KY USA Post Number: 871 Registered: May-05 | gas is 2.59 here in the city and 2.69 where I live back home. |
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Gold Member Username: CarguyPost Number: 4348 Registered: Nov-04 | The gas prices have started to rise today. Half of them went up 30 - 50 cents already. By tonight, almost all will be 40 - 50 cents higher. So fill up now. |
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Silver Member Username: Sploosh56Ohio Post Number: 908 Registered: May-04 | it's $2.66 in my town. It went up to $3.29 in Toledo yesterday. Fill up anything you guys can find cause this is gonna be the one that hurts. I've been saving up milk jugs all summer lol |
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Silver Member Username: ImportrapistSavannah, GA U.S.A Post Number: 271 Registered: Mar-05 | $hit i dunno whats goin on in your states, but gas DROPPED 20 cents since yesterday, sux for YOU! GEORGIA RULES!!!!!!!!!! |
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New member Username: Instigator11Post Number: 3 Registered: Sep-05 | Gas is actually cheaper here in orange county than it was a week ago. Min wage is suppose to be like $7.25 starting in January. im workin for 7.50 + commission doin telemarketing! CALIFORNIA RULES!!! georgia rules? lmao jk |
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Silver Member Username: Loc_outPost Number: 260 Registered: Feb-05 | Jason waht about you talking about... Min wage is $6.75.. Gas is around 2.80 for 87, 91 is around 3bucks. Oh i forgot to mention home's in orange county run aound 650.000 for a home that was build 30 year ago. New home run around 800 or so. Let me know what you guys think. |
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New member Username: Instigator11Post Number: 4 Registered: Sep-05 | yea its 6.75 now... its suppose to go up in january to either $7.00 or $7.25. Gas is 2.80 for 87?! I havent seen that in months. Last week 87 was $2.95 and today its $2.93. And you'l be lucky to find a new house in OC for 800. |
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Silver Member Username: Balls573Winona, Missouri U.S Post Number: 145 Registered: Mar-05 | i make minimum wage and its only 5.15 in my town. gas is 2.56. |
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Gold Member Username: Basshead86Ocala, FL USA Post Number: 1383 Registered: Aug-05 | just got back from filling up my tank. and it was $2.79 the first gas station i went to didn't have any regular or middle-grade, just premium. so i went to the one gas station that still has gas after everyone else runs out.....Wal-Mart! lol |
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Gold Member Username: Jonathan_fGA USA Post Number: 4787 Registered: May-04 | Raising minimum wage is the one of the dumbest economic moves the country could make right now. |
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Gold Member Username: Basshead86Ocala, FL USA Post Number: 1384 Registered: Aug-05 | raising the minumum wage effects everything from unemployment to inflation. what most people don't realize is that your not supposed to be able to make a living on minimum wage. it is a starting pay for jobs that aren't hard to come by, kinda like something you should have done to pay for your first car while you were in high school, not to try and feed three kids and pay your mortgage, you should have an established job by then(note:should) take it for what it's worth, it is just my opinion, and my economics teachers' that he presses on us every class. lol |
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Silver Member Username: Robert_dMIA, FL USA Post Number: 101 Registered: Sep-05 | it wont really matter if we raise minimum wage or not cause then companies spend extra on employees so then where does the extra money come from .. thier products, and it would balance the gas/other spendings ratio a little but it will effect the value of a US dollar then .. and then thell raise the gas even more ... aslo increase crime by unemployment rate ... so well be stuck again in the same situation with more crime and bums and more money to count i think there should be fixed earnings ... ex: a rapper, a movie star ... thats just b.s. the money they make people shouldnt be able to get more than 300,000 a year maximum earning something like that thats just my thoughts i know someone will try to be cool and argue but w/e thats your opinions |
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Bronze Member Username: ThigpenRVA, Va Usa Post Number: 43 Registered: Sep-05 | its 2.69 here, but my 3000GT takes premium only. 20 gallon tank tho, filled up tonight, should last me 3 weeks "So lets say you are a teenager that goes to high school and has a car, you work an 8 hour day on Saturday" thats me. premium gas car, 15 miles to and from school plus traffic. my job is another good 12 miles away and i work 4 days a week. i make about 200 a payback and its 50 bucks with 2.97 a gallon for me now. when it goes up ill have to work a full week just to pay for 3 weeks of gas |
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Silver Member Username: RovinTrinidad & T... Post Number: 698 Registered: Jul-05 | Glad that MW was awake when the teacher was explaining - lol What muddy says about minimum wage does hold alot of water(s) - lol In my country u can see the effects of raising minimum wage . Of course u will get more pay but what about everybody who wants to get more pay then prices of EVERYTHING else needs to go up cause then the bosses have to charge more for goods/services so that the workers can get more pay - long story but its a chain effect. We in T&T do have a bunch of @$$holes in Gov't - so they are to blame ... BTW - gas in my country costs equivalent in US$ = 1.91/gallon unleaded premium .....heh heh heh we got cheeeeap gas ,we got cheeeeap gas ! LOl  |
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Silver Member Username: GeekbikePost Number: 373 Registered: Dec-04 | Minimum wage in Alberta was only $5.90 up until a couple weeks ago. They raised it to $7 last Thursday. Still pretty pathetic for the richest province/state in North America. |
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New member Username: Instigator11Post Number: 6 Registered: Sep-05 | theres rich people in canada? wtf |
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Bronze Member Username: Tj80Vancouver, BC Canada Post Number: 54 Registered: Aug-05 | The igloo builders do well. |
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Silver Member Username: FordpwrLos angeles, CA Usa Post Number: 363 Registered: Dec-04 | Matt Thigpen- your only wasting your money by filling up with premium only. If your car can run with premium then it can also run with regular 87 octane gasoline. Thers no reason why you should be using premium because it ovbiously isn't a high perf, suped up, high compression engine when 20 gallons lasts you 3 weeks. Your just wasting your money bro. |
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Bronze Member Username: Kaos13USA Post Number: 32 Registered: Oct-04 | D@m the gas sky rocketed out here since yesterday, yesterday it was 3.09 and early this morning it was 4.09, now this afternoon its 4.69 for 87. i should of filled up yesterday that Fuccing sucks something seariously is wrong they need to stop doin this to us and change it back to 1.50 to where it was last year.I hate the president he has done nothing but bad things just like his father. He didnt do sh!t for hurricane katrina victims is basically like he murdered the victims that didnt get any help and this waas after the storm. Well i blame us the americans too all the people that voted for this "great" president they should of known that he wasnt what he said he was and now the people that voted for him are like wheres the president? wheres the help? why does gas cost too much?You should of never voted for a dead beat president. Just my two cents |
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Gold Member Username: Jonathan_fGA USA Post Number: 4790 Registered: May-04 | "I hate the president he has done nothing but bad things just like his father. He didnt do sh!t for hurricane katrina victims is basically like he murdered the victims that didnt get any help and this waas after the storm. Well i blame us the americans too all the people that voted for this "great" president they should of known that he wasnt what he said he was and now the people that voted for him are like wheres the president?" I think people that have no clue how the economy and politics work shouldn't have a commentary on it *cough, cough* BTW, you can blame Clinton for the shape we're in. |
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New member Username: Instigator11Post Number: 8 Registered: Sep-05 | matt, is your 3000GT twin turbo? |
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Gold Member Username: CarguyPost Number: 4374 Registered: Nov-04 | It seems every country has a group of idiots voting. In Canada, we have just as many of them voting for Liberals. This is the party that stole millions of tax payer's money and gave them to their "friends" companies. If that wasn't bad enough, the same party, during election, made lot of promises. Then after the they won, flatly broke them. They also had a computer leasing that ballooned from $40 million to over $80 million in contract without anyone's approval. After months of investigation, we find out the people at the top, took bribes and money. Here's the funny thing. This party is leading in poles right now. How stupid are these people?? What will it take for them to see? Pucking morons. We also have a watch dog set up to watch over the oil companies for any illegal activities. So far, they have been absolutely useless. If fact I wonder if they're being paid by them. |
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g-head Unregistered guest | how did clinton cause all this he just got a blow job from a chick Sh!t hes better than what either bush(father,son) ever did bush's dad whent and got into it with kuwait the U.S. should of known that they were gonna retaliate sooner or later, now look what happened. Bottom line NEVER trust any bush.I agree with you isaac there are a bunch idiots that vote for the wrong president just by what he says hes gonna do but never does anything and the people vote for him again. The people of the U.S should stop whinning and vote for the right person in the first place. |
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New member Username: Instigator11Post Number: 9 Registered: Sep-05 | "The people of the U.S should stop whinning and vote for the right person in the first place." Easier said than done. You really think Kerry would have done that much better of a job? |
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Bronze Member Username: ThigpenRVA, Va Usa Post Number: 55 Registered: Sep-05 | are you retarded dr max? first off all 3000s are designed to run on premium unleaded ONLY. it has it on the dash and the gas tank if you dont want to take my word on it. anything of lower grade would r@pe my engine. secondly, its not a waste of money. it keeps your engine healthier, which is pretty important since my engine is huge, and it gives you better acceleration, which is key when you race. no my car is not the twin turbo, better known as the VR-4, but it is the SL which still has the same DOHC 3.0 24v v-6 engine that the VR-4 320HP AWD uses. you can put all the lower grade fuel you want in your car, and kill the life of your engine, but my guess is you drive some old honda and think its sweet because you can treat the car like sh*t and it will still run forever. some people take care of their cars, i guess your not one of them. the reason my car lasts me 3 weeks on a tank is 1) because my car has a 20 gallon tank which gets about 24 miles to the gallon City about 34 highway, which i do quite a bit of. i only drive to school and work, and when im racing friends in spare time. all of my friends live near me and drive, so theres no point in driving in my leisurely time. anything else youd like to point out when you have no idea what your talking about? |
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Gold Member Username: Jonathan_fGA USA Post Number: 4793 Registered: May-04 | Since when was 3.0L huge? Premium isn't "better" for your engine, nor does it make your engine perform better than another fuel would. It is for the application you are using. Premium burns cooler, in other words, resists detonation. It is designed to withstand more heat from higher compression, more aggressive camshafts and ignition timing, turbochargers, basically to withstand the abuse of a performance engine. If premium was "better" for an engine, then diesel and kerosene would be even better, but I doubt you'd put that in your car. An engine designed to run on 87 will run WORSE on premium because it will not burn as cleanly nor will it build as much heat in the combustion chambers. Power will be lower, fuel economy will be worse, and you'll spend 20 cents more for nothing. The Premium belief mainly came from Hot Rod magazines filling up their musclecars with the highest octane they could before a dyno run. The reason they did that is because those cars had high compression and cast iron heads. Leaded gas back then had a much higher octane than what you'll get at the pump today. |
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Bronze Member Username: ThigpenRVA, Va Usa Post Number: 56 Registered: Sep-05 | well a few things, your right 3.0 isnt really that big i was getting into it, but my engine is alot bigger than my friends 3.2TL, and it may be appearance but oh well. and like you said, "An engine designed to run on 87 will run WORSE on premium" and wouldnt it hold the same truth that a engine designed to run on premium would run worse on 87? and also as you said leaded gas back then, in other parts of the world, europse, asia, you can get up to 101? and you gotta realize that my car is a foreign car, so im not basing this on fact, but overseas it might be designed to run on a higher octane and thats why they say premium only over here beach its the highest we have here but doesnt come close to what they have over there. |
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Silver Member Username: ChriskleinPost Number: 251 Registered: Aug-05 | I drive a 2003 Monte Carlo LS and it recommends 87 octane. I was only getting 20 miles to the gallon with that krap, i switched to premium and now i get 27 MPG. I dont really no why, but Jonathan that kind of shot down your statement "An engine designed to run on 87 octane will run WORSE on premium because it will not burn as cleanly nor will it build as much heat in the combustion chambers." |
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Silver Member Username: Camaro823British Colu... Canada Post Number: 219 Registered: Jun-05 | Issac, I hear you man (from the post a few up), The canadian government is just ridiculous. Not to mention the provoncial gov't in B.C. is a drunken bum who has outsourced most jobs and left the average joes with next to nothing to work with. Garbage really, on the actual topic, gas is a pain, but i can't really complain with the prices here compared to those on eastern canada. |
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Gold Member Username: Jonathan_fGA USA Post Number: 4794 Registered: May-04 | "I drive a 2003 Monte Carlo LS and it recommends 87 octane. I was only getting 20 miles to the gallon with that krap, i switched to premium and now i get 27 MPG. I dont really no why, but Jonathan that kind of shot down your statement" Don't just ask me, ask engineers of these vehicles and other specialists, they'll tell you the exact same thing. The only thing running 93 in a car designed for 87 will do is drive gas prices through the roof. Remember that most new cars AREN'T designed for 87, what most manufacturers do is design a high compression 4 banger that is inclined to premium, and incorporate an anti-knock sensor that retards the timing in order to keep the engine from spark knock. This happens mainly under load, and of course, the timing retard will hurt gas mileage since the engine won't be as efficient. This is why it is important to understand what your car is capable of and what it isn't. More than likely, that is the case with your car, especially if you drive it hard. |
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Silver Member Username: FordpwrLos angeles, CA Usa Post Number: 365 Registered: Dec-04 | Yo,Yo,Yo whats up with the insults there Matt ? and thamks Jonathan. Thats exactly what I was trying to tell you, your car doesn't need premium gasoline. You obviosly don't know d!ck about gasoline. And just to clear the record, have you looked at my profile ? I dislike imports so much you have no idea and you can save your comments on imports being great and all. I have three vehicles : '03 Tahoe; '03 Expedition ; and OH YEAH !!! '65 Mustang, permanent convertible, 2 seater, race hungry with a 12.3:1 compression that takes nothing less that 110 octane fuel, yeah. I know your car doesn't need preimium. And NO, if your car is designed to run on regular it might run worse with premium , at least most of the time. That doesn't mean your car will run worse using regular. It's total bullsh1t what your saying , thinking your actually keeping your car healthier by running premium, WRONG!!!!!! You probably go around looking for Shell, 76 or some other expensive gasoline because you think your helping your engine. WRONG!!!! They differ only in the Octane rating that they have and not in most cases. Its been found that the "Premium Gasoline" pumps actually put out regular gasoline, No Bull. Guess why ?, because there's no MAJOR difference for you or any one else running stock cars to notice. Ultimate Post Ho, You did'nt just swapped gasoline you also changed your drving habbits, and maybe changed the fuel or air filters or did a complete tune up. |
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Gold Member Username: Jonathan_fGA USA Post Number: 4796 Registered: May-04 | "I have three vehicles : '03 Tahoe; '03 Expedition ; and OH YEAH !!! '65 Mustang, permanent convertible, 2 seater, race hungry with a 12.3:1 compression that takes nothing less that 110 octane fuel, yeah. I know your car doesn't need preimium. " What's in the Mustang? 289, or did you put something bigger in it? I've got a soft spot for the first Mustangs, up to about 68 anyway |
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Silver Member Username: ChriskleinPost Number: 252 Registered: Aug-05 | I dont really wanna start an arguement or anything with you Jonathan cuz i know you are a good guy, but what can account for that big of an increace in gas mileage then??? I drove exactly the same route at the same speed till my tank was almost empty on both 87 and i beleive 91 and i got more gas mileage. DR MAX - I didnt change my driving habits. To test it out i did just highway driving on a trip, and i got around 20 with ethanol blend stuff, and 27 with premium. In the city(town) i got only 17 miles to the gallon, sometimes even less with using ethanol blend. I havent tested premium in city because i always forgot to do it. I didnt change the air filter or get a tune up during this testing either. |
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Gold Member Username: Jonathan_fGA USA Post Number: 4797 Registered: May-04 | "and i got around 20 with ethanol blend stuff" You didn't mention that it was an ethanol blend. Ethanol blends lower gas mileage because they simply don't carry as much energy as gasoline does. Engine control systems also have to compensate for them. |
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Silver Member Username: FordpwrLos angeles, CA Usa Post Number: 368 Registered: Dec-04 | Well I guess your gonna have to have a sit down with mine ,there Jonathan, lol. Mine's a '65 with a stroked 351 off a an 86 Economy 350 van for a total of 392 CID. It just to have the original 289 ci engine, wich I toasted due to a radiator leak, man that sucked , it was during a Car Craft cruise ( you know, the magazine) I was trying to catch up to them when , puff, white and black some out my exhaust, I killed my engine. No Water in radiator, completely dry. So the I put in a stock , rebuild 302, had it for 1 year, sit for another year, and finally made up my mind. Now it's just a summer weekend cruiser. I gotta tell, if someone here thinks they're rolling in an Escalade, Navigator, Range Rover or what have you, Boy, there's nothing like crusing the streets in a classic muscle car, FU(K!!!!!!!! However, I weould be willing to trade my car for a completely restored '69 Camaro RS/SS even though 65-66' Mustangs are the hardest to come buy of all the musclecars, No Bull, Do a reaearch. |
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Silver Member Username: ChriskleinPost Number: 255 Registered: Aug-05 | Jonathan - IC, as you can see, i dont know anything about cars. I just said facts. Would you say that if i went with just 87 i would notice a difference in this case??? I tend to push my engine kind of hard, i am a fast accelerator type of guy. |
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Gold Member Username: Jonathan_fGA USA Post Number: 4799 Registered: May-04 | "Would you say that if i went with just 87 i would notice a difference in this case??? I tend to push my engine kind of hard, i am a fast accelerator type of guy." Premium tends to do better with people that push engines harder, simply because they are putting the engine under more of a load, forcing spark knock and the knock sensors retard the timing, so it somewhat kills the ability to take advantage of 87 octane. This mainly applies to modern engines with higher compression, variable camshafts, etc. DR MAX, I wish I had some pictures of my old Mustang. Found a 427 SOHC in a junkyard, built it up, and popped it into a 67 Fastback. Ran 10.9s, got kicked off Atlanta Dragway that night b/c I didn't have a rollbar. I must say a built 289 is a lot of fun to drive, though, nothing like watching the tach dance above 7,000 rpm What did you do for a roadster, use one of the Mustangs Plus kits? |
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Silver Member Username: FordpwrLos angeles, CA Usa Post Number: 369 Registered: Dec-04 | Exactly, I used that Ronster kit that they have. Man . that '67 is another car I would be willing to trade for , also a '69 BOSS, thats another bad a$ $ car I still have yet to race my car in the 1/4 mile, so far I've been untoacheble on the streets. I have seen some pretty fast imports , Thay don't quite cut it yet though. Not when it comes to All American V-8 muscle. |
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