I might of found my cheap spl sub?

taylor17 Gold Member Username: Taylor17 Kopperl, Texas Post Number: 1737 Registered: Jan-05	Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 18:18 GMT Well, I can't find any audiobahns that are 4 ohm svc, or 2 ohm dvc... so nun of them will work with my amp. I found some Kicker l7's that I could prob afford in a few week's:-) but theres one problem. The reason they are so cheap is they have been factory renewed. The store is a authorised dealer... so they have a 90 day waranty. Is it still a bad idea to get factory renewed stuff? My second question is... I can get a 10 inch l7 for $139, and it is the 04 mottle, or the 12l7 for $129... but it is the 02 mottle. What should I go with?
sean Gold Member Username: Insearchofbass Post Number: 1832 Registered: Jun-04	Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 18:23 GMT i was gonna go with one of those as well 12 l7 solobarics myself off ebay ive seen they can hit 149 db at a show
Trevor Eaton Silver Member Username: Tdeaton1021 Near Tampa, Florida USA Post Number: 313 Registered: Sep-04	Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 18:24 GMT a different sub...lol... take advantage of a 15 atlas for 105$ in a ported box ive heard they can reach 141 db i doubt one L7 will do any better. and they are much more efficient with 250-300 watt rms i know your amp is probably too powerful but then you can sell that and ghet a less powerful one.... ...just a thought ... ..oh and how much to DD lower end subs cost? i have no idea but i bet they are great
sean Gold Member Username: Insearchofbass Post Number: 1833 Registered: Jun-04	Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 18:26 GMT that was one L7 12 solobaric hitting 149 db trevor
ThatGuyYouKnow Unregistered guest	Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 18:27 GMT Too bad im not willing to sell one of my RESE's yet. but its also a dual 4ohm vc. so kinda out of the question, What is the amp?
taylor17 Gold Member Username: Taylor17 Kopperl, Texas Post Number: 1738 Registered: Jan-05	Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 18:28 GMT Lol, no way I'm selling my amp!:-) I really don't want a 15 either... and the 12l7 are rated at 750 rms, and my amp is 800 rms. I just don't want to buy something that is already crap! I know that solo's have been known for crapping out, and these have already been renewed... wich I'm guessing that they have already taken a crap on someone else!
ThatGuyYouKnow Unregistered guest	Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 18:30 GMT Arnt the solo's square? = / "eww"
taylor17 Gold Member Username: Taylor17 Kopperl, Texas Post Number: 1741 Registered: Jan-05	Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 18:31 GMT The amp is the RF p8002, it's only stable at 4 ohms bridged. 800 watts rms x 1 at 4 ohms
ThatGuyYouKnow Unregistered guest	Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 18:32 GMT but this thread is about SPL so if you want SPL go with those. but they really arnt square, more like rectangular I think they have less cone area than a circular one.
sean Gold Member Username: Insearchofbass Post Number: 1835 Registered: Jun-04	Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 18:33 GMT yes they have thats what id guess anyway but man if it doesnt blow wont it be fun to pound with lol
sean Gold Member Username: Insearchofbass Post Number: 1836 Registered: Jun-04	Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 18:34 GMT no they are square and have more cone area
taylor17 Gold Member Username: Taylor17 Kopperl, Texas Post Number: 1743 Registered: Jan-05	Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 18:36 GMT I'm just waiting on someone to tell me if a factory renewed product is a good idea.
ThatGuyYouKnow Unregistered guest	Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 18:36 GMT more stress points aswell.
ThatGuyYouKnow Unregistered guest	Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 18:38 GMT I say buy it, enter a comp pound the shizzle out of it and get a new one if it breaks = /
taylor17 Gold Member Username: Taylor17 Kopperl, Texas Post Number: 1745 Registered: Jan-05	Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 18:39 GMT Sean, do you think I could get in to the 140's with you're help on the ported/sealed box?
sean Gold Member Username: Insearchofbass Post Number: 1838 Registered: Jun-04	Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 18:40 GMT taylor i was saying id risk my money on the chance they are ok
ThatGuyYouKnow Unregistered guest	Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 18:40 GMT well i got to leave now, 5hr drive to grandparents place for a pathitic holiday known as mothers day. bye.
sean Gold Member Username: Insearchofbass Post Number: 1839 Registered: Jun-04	Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 18:41 GMT you better believe you can get in the 140s with one buddy ...if we cant i wanna no why
sean Gold Member Username: Insearchofbass Post Number: 1840 Registered: Jun-04	Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 18:41 GMT and that would be ported and a large box
taylor17 Gold Member Username: Taylor17 Kopperl, Texas Post Number: 1747 Registered: Jan-05	Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 18:43 GMT Sweet! Thats the spearit
taylor17 Gold Member Username: Taylor17 Kopperl, Texas Post Number: 1748 Registered: Jan-05	Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 18:46 GMT Just guessing, how much do you think it would cost to build the box?
sean Gold Member Username: Insearchofbass Post Number: 1841 Registered: Jun-04	Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 18:48 GMT no more than 50 bucks id say
sean Gold Member Username: Insearchofbass Post Number: 1842 Registered: Jun-04	Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 18:50 GMT a sheet of .75 mdf is like 25 bucks plus screws plus sealer etc.
taylor17 Gold Member Username: Taylor17 Kopperl, Texas Post Number: 1749 Registered: Jan-05	Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 18:51 GMT Cool, so I'm looking at a total of $180. Umm, shouldn't take long to get that much.:-) lol
sean Gold Member Username: Insearchofbass Post Number: 1843 Registered: Jun-04	Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 18:52 GMT was that including shipping the $130?
taylor17 Gold Member Username: Taylor17 Kopperl, Texas Post Number: 1751 Registered: Jan-05	Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 18:54 GMT Yess. Also, do you think the box you was talking about in my other thread would work? The one where it was ported, but you could make it sealed too?
taylor17 Gold Member Username: Taylor17 Kopperl, Texas Post Number: 1752 Registered: Jan-05	Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 18:55 GMT Oh, wait! Shipping, no. So it will be more like $200! Damn!
sean Gold Member Username: Insearchofbass Post Number: 1844 Registered: Jun-04	Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 19:12 GMT we could do an interchangable port sanario one for daily use one for spl use
taylor17 Gold Member Username: Taylor17 Kopperl, Texas Post Number: 1754 Registered: Jan-05	Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 19:23 GMT Yup, thats the one I was talking about. Would that be a good idea?
sean Gold Member Username: Insearchofbass Post Number: 1845 Registered: Jun-04	Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 19:29 GMT taylor i just ran this sub it gonna need a huge and i mean huge box for massive spl
sean Gold Member Username: Insearchofbass Post Number: 1846 Registered: Jun-04	Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 19:30 GMT 4.75 cf before the sub
sean Gold Member Username: Insearchofbass Post Number: 1847 Registered: Jun-04	Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 19:31 GMT ive got the room but i doubt you do on your seat
taylor17 Gold Member Username: Taylor17 Kopperl, Texas Post Number: 1755 Registered: Jan-05	Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 19:32 GMT Damn! That would take up my hole backseat wouldn't it?
sean Gold Member Username: Insearchofbass Post Number: 1848 Registered: Jun-04	Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 19:33 GMT yeah and be extremely heavy
sean Gold Member Username: Insearchofbass Post Number: 1849 Registered: Jun-04	Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 19:34 GMT it would hit so darn hard at 50 hz it wouldnt be funny
taylor17 Gold Member Username: Taylor17 Kopperl, Texas Post Number: 1756 Registered: Jan-05	Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 19:35 GMT Well, I could do something like 18 in tall, and around 15 deep, and about 3.5/4 ft long.:-)
taylor17 Gold Member Username: Taylor17 Kopperl, Texas Post Number: 1757 Registered: Jan-05	Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 19:39 GMT When you say massive spl, what kind of numbers are we talking about? Do you have a program to guestamate that?
sean Gold Member Username: Insearchofbass Post Number: 1850 Registered: Jun-04	Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 19:41 GMT at those measurements ,inus 1.5 inches l x w x h youd be at 5.22 cf before the sub (3.5 ft wide) wed be in business and would go slightly smaller than the 3.5 wide to match up to the 4.75 cf after displacements for the sub and ports
sean Gold Member Username: Insearchofbass Post Number: 1851 Registered: Jun-04	Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 19:47 GMT no but ill tell you this with about 2 cf ported in a sledgehammer mtx box a friend of mine hits in the 140s with an audiobahn 2400 watt amp with two 12 l7s but that amp is over rated and your gonna gain 5 db with spl port so youll have about a -1 db avantage on him with your one twelve vs his two twelves and half his power so the 140 is quite possible
sean Gold Member Username: Insearchofbass Post Number: 1852 Registered: Jun-04	Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 19:52 GMT well the box is square holes whoever makes the box anyway lol
taylor17 Gold Member Username: Taylor17 Kopperl, Texas Post Number: 1758 Registered: Jan-05	Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 19:54 GMT Hum... I was looking at the spec's for the 04 mottle l7, it recomends for ported 1.75 - 3.25 cubic FT. Granted the one I'm looking at is the 02 mottle... there shouldn't be any difference in the air space requirment's. P.s, could you post the measurments of the box it will need? Hight, from the seat going to the roof, width, from the start of the seat, to the back, and the length, across the seat. Thanks for all you're help.
sean Gold Member Username: Insearchofbass Post Number: 1853 Registered: Jun-04	Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 19:59 GMT ok im gonna see what the subs displacement is
taylor17 Gold Member Username: Taylor17 Kopperl, Texas Post Number: 1759 Registered: Jan-05	Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 20:02 GMT Well, I was just wanting to know so I could go to the truck and do some measuring to be sure this will work... thanks agen
taylor17 Gold Member Username: Taylor17 Kopperl, Texas Post Number: 1760 Registered: Jan-05	Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 20:06 GMT BTW, wouldn't a 4 cubic ft box be a little big for a sealed box? I wouldn't think the ported box with interchangable ports would work... I mean, how much sq can you get with 4 cubic FT?:-)
sean Gold Member Username: Insearchofbass Post Number: 1854 Registered: Jun-04	Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 20:09 GMT well lets assume .25 that puts us at 5.00 cf which is 18 x 15 x 40.5 5.02 cf
sean Gold Member Username: Insearchofbass Post Number: 1855 Registered: Jun-04	Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 20:11 GMT were not gonna do sealed with this at all were gonna do two different ports swappable
taylor17 Gold Member Username: Taylor17 Kopperl, Texas Post Number: 1761 Registered: Jan-05	Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 20:13 GMT Oh ok.
sean Gold Member Username: Insearchofbass Post Number: 1856 Registered: Jun-04	Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 20:15 GMT those emasure ments i gave are external ok
taylor17 Gold Member Username: Taylor17 Kopperl, Texas Post Number: 1763 Registered: Jan-05	Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 20:18 GMT Ya, I'm just going to measure to see if my seat can handle 18 in tall, 15 in deep, and 40.5 in long. Just wondering, where would the ports go?
sean Gold Member Username: Insearchofbass Post Number: 1857 Registered: Jun-04	Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 20:19 GMT on the front with the sub
taylor17 Gold Member Username: Taylor17 Kopperl, Texas Post Number: 1764 Registered: Jan-05	Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 20:23 GMT Ok. So, how does the interchangable ports work? Is ther some like tuned to 35hz, and the spl tuned like 45/50hz?
sean Gold Member Username: Insearchofbass Post Number: 1858 Registered: Jun-04	Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 20:27 GMT yes your daily would be tuned to 34 hz and the spl one would be tuned to 46 hz and peak at 50 hz
taylor17 Gold Member Username: Taylor17 Kopperl, Texas Post Number: 1765 Registered: Jan-05	Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 20:29 GMT Ok... it sounds complacated though.
sean Gold Member Username: Insearchofbass Post Number: 1859 Registered: Jun-04	Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 20:31 GMT nahh easy i did it to my box and made it flush mount
sean Gold Member Username: Insearchofbass Post Number: 1860 Registered: Jun-04	Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 20:35 GMT youd have two 4 inch ports 9.25 inches deep for the 34 hz port tune and two 4 inch ports 3.75 inches long for your 46 hz port tune
taylor17 Gold Member Username: Taylor17 Kopperl, Texas Post Number: 1766 Registered: Jan-05	Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 20:38 GMT I just thought of another question... I told you I don't know anything about boxes!:-) I know that the back is supposed to have a slope so the sound waves don't cancel out or something... but how much of a slope will I need? The bottom of the box will be 18 in, does that mean the top will only be like 16?
sean Gold Member Username: Insearchofbass Post Number: 1861 Registered: Jun-04	Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 20:39 GMT dont worry about the slope stuff
taylor17 Gold Member Username: Taylor17 Kopperl, Texas Post Number: 1767 Registered: Jan-05	Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 20:41 GMT Why not?
sean Gold Member Username: Insearchofbass Post Number: 1862 Registered: Jun-04	Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 20:42 GMT its not that important right now
sean Gold Member Username: Insearchofbass Post Number: 1863 Registered: Jun-04	Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 20:42 GMT i dont do it to my boxes to tell you the truth
taylor17 Gold Member Username: Taylor17 Kopperl, Texas Post Number: 1768 Registered: Jan-05	Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 20:44 GMT Ok then.
sean Gold Member Username: Insearchofbass Post Number: 1864 Registered: Jun-04	Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 20:45 GMT take those measurements
taylor17 Gold Member Username: Taylor17 Kopperl, Texas Post Number: 1769 Registered: Jan-05	Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 20:47 GMT Ok... I'll be back on here later to night maybe...
Anonymous	Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 21:01 GMT this has nothing to do with what you ppl are tlking about but i have a problem on where to set the gain on the amp when the amp's gain is from 150mv-4v but my HU is 5v?
taylor17 Gold Member Username: Taylor17 Kopperl, Texas Post Number: 1773 Registered: Jan-05	Posted on Sunday, May 08, 2005 - 02:36 GMT Anon, I'm not for sure on how to set the gain on amps, but you are supposed to match it with you're head units output or something like that... so set at 5 I'm guessing. Sean, we have a little problem, I can't go 15 deep, 13.5 is about it... I might could cram 14 in, but it would be hard. Everything else I think should work.
sean Gold Member Username: Insearchofbass Post Number: 1889 Registered: Jun-04	Posted on Sunday, May 08, 2005 - 03:53 GMT if you can give me 13.75 id be happy that would give us 3inches from the back of the box but if not its fine........18 x 13.75 x 44.5 = 5.029 cf can you do this or is it a problem?
sean Gold Member Username: Insearchofbass Post Number: 1890 Registered: Jun-04	Posted on Sunday, May 08, 2005 - 03:55 GMT i can do new measurements without that extra .25 inch for the depth if it is.

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