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Silver Member
Username: Addicted2bass

Miami, FLORIDA USA

Post Number: 465
Registered: Nov-04
Hey all, wussup im getting a new car or truck. It comes down to either a 04' expedition eddie bauer or a 2005 scion tc. My ccurrent cars has way to many problems and so im going to get a new 1.YEY.lol So im going to start over from sratch with absolutely everything in my system. So this is what i got so far.

alpine 9833 HU
2 set of infinity kappa perfect 6.1's
RF amp to push them
1 15" SX
1 RF T10001BD for SX
1 optima yellow top
KNUKonceptz wiring
Edead sound deadening
Snailshell enclousre
200 amp alt.
1 3 farad cap(for show mostly will add later no important now)
So im going to be spending around $2000 any suggestions or if you want and think you can build a system beter than this for 2 g's help me out please. Thanx

 

Bronze Member
Username: Iceflamekilla

Hartford, CT

Post Number: 22
Registered: Mar-05
I think thats a great setup. I have nothing to add. I think you're system is going to rock.
 

Gold Member
Username: Jmloughrey

Farmington, CT

Post Number: 1099
Registered: Jul-04
not too shabby....i'd run it....but i dont have 2 grand for a system....
 

Gold Member
Username: Jmloughrey

Farmington, CT

Post Number: 1100
Registered: Jul-04
i will say knukonceptz wiring is SuperB...just wired my new system with it...didnt stab myself with a stray peice of wire once...very high quality wiring kits...the RCA's are mint as well...
 

Silver Member
Username: Jwbulger79

Florida

Post Number: 396
Registered: Nov-04
i'd look elsewhere than RF for amps. their old stuff was good, but their quality has gone down hill as of late.
 

Silver Member
Username: Importrapist

Savannah, GA U.S.A

Post Number: 115
Registered: Mar-05
i beg to differ, their amps are still great, its everything else that has gone down... but i still run everything RF.
 

Silver Member
Username: 54danny54

Post Number: 135
Registered: Nov-04
get a scion xB instead(they look better lol)
 

Bronze Member
Username: Nitescort

Post Number: 44
Registered: Mar-05
JL audio, PPI, Zapco, etc...
lots of stuff better then RF although its still not a shabby amp, just you can get better for less.
 

Silver Member
Username: Addicted2bass

Miami, FLORIDA USA

Post Number: 466
Registered: Nov-04
jl is a bit of out my budget. I was looking into getting a PPI art series amp to push the comps and a orion g4 amp to push the SX. BUT both are very hard to find. Hey what so you guys think of the PPI black art series. Are they the same as the PPI art series but with a different color
 

Silver Member
Username: Addicted2bass

Miami, FLORIDA USA

Post Number: 467
Registered: Nov-04
Donny im getting the scion tc because im trying to get sponsored from this place called jamasco engineering. they have all sorts of racing parts for the scion tc. A bit of pricey but nice stuff for a tc. Check out one of their projects at www.scionspeed.com
 

Bronze Member
Username: Jbailey

Indianapolis, Indiana

Post Number: 14
Registered: Mar-05
Hey Basslova,
System looks good. The only thing I would consider is ditching the second set of components if they are going to be run in the rear of the vehicle. One set of components up front would probably be plenty in terms of volume and will also produce the best sound in terms of imaging. You want the sound to appear in front of you like you are at a concert and rear components will just be distracting as they disrupt the sound image (although rear seat passengers may get some enjoyment). Imagine that, better overall sound and less money. If just all out SPL is what you want then go for the second set of 6.1's, but if you care about SQ then save the money for something else like a good EQ, etc. Just my two cents.
 

Silver Member
Username: Erik123456

Arlington, Tx

Post Number: 474
Registered: Aug-04
i would ditch the perfect or atleast make sure you listen to them in person before you get them but thats personal pref.

also I would try to get an eclipse 8454 off ebay instead of the 9833 but they are both good decks or possible the 9855 off ebay (around 380 new) and it has the upgraded display plus I glide replaces the 1-6 pre select buttons

overall i think it sounds really well planned out though, you can tell you put a lot of research into it
 

Silver Member
Username: Erik123456

Arlington, Tx

Post Number: 475
Registered: Aug-04
and for a cool tc check out the one in super street (latest issue) fat g games rims turbo'd intercooler and a 43 inch plasma tv in the back its a pretty sweet set up by pioneer
 

Silver Member
Username: Udai

Post Number: 101
Registered: Dec-04
Your gona go deaf lol..that car is tiny and the rear hatch is like 2 feet away from your head.
 

Gold Member
Username: Jonathan_f

GA USA

Post Number: 3597
Registered: May-04
Just be aware that Scion is ranked 4th worst in the nation for reliability.
 

Silver Member
Username: Erik123456

Arlington, Tx

Post Number: 480
Registered: Aug-04
isnt it just toyota though? - it is prob rated that way just bc its the first year out
 

Silver Member
Username: Addicted2bass

Miami, FLORIDA USA

Post Number: 468
Registered: Nov-04
yeht they're made by toyota
 

Gold Member
Username: Subfanatic

Walton, Ky

Post Number: 1884
Registered: Dec-04
actually its there first yearin america, scion has been around for 3 years in japan, and i persoanlly HATE foreign cars lol, sorry but that why i hate the xb, looks like a smaller element, very ugly car, very slow car, my mom has one and is trying to find a supercharger or turbo to put on it.
but bass, the system looks great man
 

Silver Member
Username: Addicted2bass

Miami, FLORIDA USA

Post Number: 470
Registered: Nov-04
yeh i hate te way the xB looks. Its hideous. Im not sure on what car to get but thats the car i most likely going to get. But are there any more suggestions on what i can do to make the system sound better, or louder without sacrificing that much sq
 

Gold Member
Username: Subfanatic

Walton, Ky

Post Number: 1889
Registered: Dec-04
looks great, but if your looking for a cheap car, some of my favorite looking cheap cars would be like a hyundai tiburon or a srt4, in my opinion look great
 

Gold Member
Username: Jonathan_f

GA USA

Post Number: 3603
Registered: May-04
This isn't Scions first year in America, they've been out for a couple of years now and the quality still sucks. Scion premiered in 02, they're just cheaply made. They're based on Toyotas engineering, but Toyota isn't all it's cracked up to be either. They're depending on a reputation and overrated marketing like every other import manufacturer, relying on people that know nothing about cars or how power works to look at a horsepower number and believe a non-existent quality promise. Sorry if I offend you Toyota guys, but that's what I've observed over the years, Toyota and Honda have caused me countless hours of wasted wrenchtime and I've had too many friends that have had the same problems from their cars. You're already seeing that American cars are getting stronger by the day while the Japanese brands are slipping on their longevity promise. Ford has had fewer recalls than Honda in the last 3 months and are making a lot more profit than they used to, and Toyota, Honda, and Nissan still can't touch on an F-150 no matter how hard or long they try, Honda is already planning rebates and incentives just to get the Ridgeline off a parking lot. Maybe FTD florists need something to haul their flowers in, something the size of an Avalanche with similar gas mileage and the pulling power of a Ranger. And they wonder what went wrong. Chrysler is on top of the world right now, GM is still struggling though. Japanese automakers are after market share, not top rated cars, and good reviews for them emanate from the same idiot car reviewers that don't know the difference between a car and a dishwasher.
 

Gold Member
Username: Invain

Michigan United States

Post Number: 1884
Registered: Aug-04
Very nice Jon. I get so sick of all the foreign junk nowadays. Honda honestly needs to stick to four-wheelers and dirt bikes. The new Honda pickup is just pathetic. It even looks retarted.
 

Gold Member
Username: Jonathan_f

GA USA

Post Number: 3604
Registered: May-04
I would have given that truck the benefit of the doubt, but once I saw it, it was enough. For a $30,000 truck, it's really cheap looking, it combines ugly with bland. The interior is all hard plastic and butt ugly, it looks like it came out of an old Geo Tracker. On top of that, the owner was already complaining about the gas mileage (around 17 highway with 4,000 miles on the truck, even worse in the city), and that it is weak pulling a camper through the mountains. If you're wondering, yes I use trucks as trucks and I am not the type of person that drives a truck with an empty bed. If I want refinement, I drive a car, not a wussy truck. A good truck has a strong V8 and a REAL truck doesn't have any spark plugs :-).
 

Gold Member
Username: Carguy

Post Number: 2195
Registered: Nov-04
Not all Honda/Toyota cars are bad. In fact they have very high customer satisfaction in passenger cars.
The problem is they got greedy and branched into trucks. As you know, truck drivers are a different breed. What works with passenger cars, do not work with trucks.
This is why I would never buy "trucks" from Nissan/Toyota/Honda etc. Ford and GM are still at the top in truck category.
The American passenger cars used to have one of the lowest consumer satisfaction. Now they're trying/is changing that.
Change of topic, anyone seen that tiny car from Mercedes? It's as small as a toy car. The Cooper Mini looks like a giant compared to it.
I might have to buy one of them if the gas prices keep rising.
 

Gold Member
Username: Jonathan_f

GA USA

Post Number: 3606
Registered: May-04
The funny thing is, the more fuel efficient we become, the higher the prices will get. Oil companies are just greedy and out to make every penny they can, if we had a bunch of gas guzzling musclecars riding around we'd be making them happier and the prices would be less, and we'd actually have cars worth driving.
 

Gold Member
Username: Carguy

Post Number: 2201
Registered: Nov-04
Tell me when that happens. Till then I'll be busy finding ways to save on gas.
Have you seen a bike from Europe where it comes with a semi roof/cage? BMW makes it. You don't have to wear a bike helmet to ride it there.
I don't understand why North America won't allow those to be imported/built here. What a shame. They give you anywhere from 80mpg - 150mpg.
 

Silver Member
Username: Udai

Post Number: 107
Registered: Dec-04
Because 16 y\o kiddies would try to get it and would get slaughtered on the streets and countless parents would lose their minds and this world would come to an end. (long story short)
 

Silver Member
Username: Udai

Post Number: 108
Registered: Dec-04
And the wierd thing is.. not all that stuff about Toyota and Honda is true.. i mean i know 3 mechanics in my area that all still say that they are very reliable cars. It is true that american cars are getting better though.. I wouldnt mind driving a mustang that can run over 300k miles ;)
 

Gold Member
Username: Jonathan_f

GA USA

Post Number: 3608
Registered: May-04
I'm mainly referring to the misconceptions that rise about the cars, the common mentality is that they'll give you 300,000 trouble free miles, or that you'll never have to do anything but oil and filter changes. Total lies. The average Honda/Toyota dies around 200,000 miles. People talk bad about American cars, but most don't even drive the cars until it die. Most just get tired of it and trade it in for a new one, thinking "man, this car has 100,000 on it, better get a new one before something happens". I've never had trouble getting 200,000 out of any of my vehicles, it's a matter of choosing what you feel is solid.

As far as gas mileage, we've been in a decline in fuel mileage across the board since the 80s. People don't pay attention to it, but cars from the 80s were better on gas, regardless of the added electronic control systems that have been added over the years, which by design hurt mileage rather than help it. Right now oil companies are using the war as a crutch to jack up oil prices, but people don't realize that OPEC hasn't been a factor in fuel mileage since the 80s, noone can do anything about gas prices but the companies themselves. How exactly would a war effect an oil company anyway? Just piss them off at best, but they are still producing obviously, it's not like we stopped their production. Gas could be dirt cheap if they wanted it to be, but I'm sure they'll ride this for all it's worth. Like Isaac said, it leaves you with no choice but to get a car with good fuel mileage, at least for the time being. My first car was a 65 Mustang in high school, with a 289 and automatic it could crank out 20mpg on the highway. You may think that is low, but consider that we didn't have overdrive, roller cams, electronic fuel injection, electronic ignition, or aerodynamics, not too shabby. I added a 5 speed overdrive, a new carburetor, electronic ignition, and a roller cam to a 302 I had and it regularly cranked out 24mpg highway in a 69 Cougar, which is the same gas mileage of the average 6 cyl car of today of the same size, in a much better and more fun car IMO. Inline sixes in the 60s were cranking out high 20s to low 30s in fuel mileage. The 60s weren't full of gas guzzling hogs like people think they were, or the companies would like you to think. Sure there were some, but a 440 Charger was no worse on gas than today's large SUVs. A 65 Mustang weighed less than today's Honda Civic, an older Charger, Chevelle, Fairlane, even in it's bulkiness, still weighed in at around 3600 lbs, which is the weight of the average midsize family car today. And that is using cast iron V8 engines and transmissions. It's funny that the better cars get today, the more they are becoming like they used to be years ago. There have been many fuel efficiency ideas that have been shot down, in private dealings I'm sure. In the 70s, Ford created a cylinder head that could support a 26:1 air fuel ratio and run very well doing it, the car of today gets a little more than half that. Chrysler had the turbine engine that was shot down. There have also been improvements in fuel itself, additives that allow you to add water to fuel and retain it's combustibility, again, denied. Corporate greed runs the show, it's not supply and demand like people think.
 

Silver Member
Username: Udai

Post Number: 112
Registered: Dec-04
Ive never seen any car, japanese or american that ran till 300.. still wouldnt mind having it happen in the near future though
 

Silver Member
Username: Suleman36

Post Number: 472
Registered: Feb-05
so what are some cars in your opinions that are good both american and imports? Anywhere from used to new. Prices varying from $3000 - $25,000. im curious to see what cars come up.
 

donitez
Unregistered guest
I myself can't stand honda's, especially the "me too" civic's. Sorry Civic guys, but if you done it, there is probably a thousand more just like it or close to it. As far as trucks, I have a 96 Silverado with almost 100,000 grand on it, no leaks, no slipping of the trans, gets 18-19 in town, 24 on the hwy.
 

Gold Member
Username: Carguy

Post Number: 2270
Registered: Nov-04
$100,000 on a truck?? Talk about an expensive hobby.
 

Gold Member
Username: Jonathan_f

GA USA

Post Number: 3618
Registered: May-04
There are plenty of cars that roll over to 300,000, it just depends on the way it's driven, the owner, and the maintenance. Most you'll see with that many miles are mainly highway driven, one or two owner, and well maintained. That's a lot of the reason I've had good luck with mine, I drive a lot of highway miles opposed to city and I have always taken care of my vehicles. A good V-8 or an inline six are the ones I see stacking up high mileage the most. 4 cylinders have more engineering issues and suffer from harmonics and vibration issues, also most are interference engines that require careful attention to the timing belt, cam position, etc. The best car I've personally had was a 65 Mustang with a 289 V8, it was my first car, and that motor just wouldn't die :-). I sold the car with 280k on it and it was still running strong, no leaks and the compression checked within tolerances. I got my current truck from my dad for something to tool around in, 83 C-10 that saw duty as a work truck and it had 350,000 miles, it saw more easy driven interstate miles than anything. Motor was showing wear, but not horrible and it still ran pretty good. We've got an F-350 at work with 396,000 on it right now and it's still seeing duty (it's a gas engine, not a diesel either). You just can't beat an American full size truck for longevity and reliability.

Mo, what are you looking for? Gas mileage, appeal, what size car? etc.
 

donitez
Unregistered guest
Isaac - not $100,000, a 100,000 miles
 

Bronze Member
Username: Steelheadgoof

Fairfield, California US

Post Number: 62
Registered: Mar-05
Really, I think it generally all cars are built great. It is the driver that determines if the vehicle cuts out at 100k or 400k (with a few expections). But generally speaking, most cars will last a long time if they are well taken care of. My tacoma has 220k on it and not a single problem. My buddies dodge dakota has 55k and it has problems off the a$$. But that is only two vehicles out of the millions in the US. I am sure there is a ford maverick with 500k somewhere and still goin. If you take care of your car, it will take care of you(generally).
 

Silver Member
Username: Bnd_rulez

Phoenix, AZ USA

Post Number: 225
Registered: Mar-05
American cars are made in other countries and put together here though. But I wouldn't trade my Silverado for any other truck.. besides a hemi powered Dodge.
 

Silver Member
Username: Bnd_rulez

Phoenix, AZ USA

Post Number: 226
Registered: Mar-05
Oh yeah, great system, but I would drop a set of 6.1's and get some better amps to push my drivers.
 

Silver Member
Username: Udai

Post Number: 113
Registered: Dec-04
I want an srt10 :\
MO: id recommend an rsx -s for the import side.. maybe an srt4 on the american side (if you like turbod cars). The mazda 6 is coming out with an awd i think.. take a look at that.
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