Chas the Adire Shiva has a 2" Voice Coil where as the JLw6V2 has a 2.75" Voice Coil Xmax is about the same for both but the JLW6v2 can displace more air cuz of the larger Diameter Voice Coil and the JL's Sound Quality is better.
by the way, also note the price difference for teh Shiva and W6v2 The Shivas are only ~$120 each. That's more on par with the 12W0 in cost. Now if ya compare a 12W0 and a Shiva, the Shiva wins hands down.
Tim L.
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glass,
in your opinion, is there any particular reason why adire brahmas are priced(retail) so relatively low, in the $300-400 range? particularly when taking into account their notable SPL and SQ performance? how much does the cost => quality active theory apply to these subs?
a lot of how a sub sounds will depend on a number of factors beyond the music itself, too. vehicle, enclosure, power, any equalization, etc.
The Adires aren't exactly what I'd call "cheap" at $300+ each, but they aren't as much as some subs. The Brahmas are priced to be attractive to consumers since their name isn't as widely recognized as names like Alpine or even JL Audio. You can't over-charge for a product nobody knows, and expect to make enough money to stay in business. That's another thing to keep in mind.
i'm not saying the type of music you listen to is the end all, but I think it one factor many overlook.
You don't know if you're going to be happy with a sub until you play your favorite song with it, and it sounds perfect...of course the box type, power, etc...will make a difference. But if you have two subs, in the same room...and you can tell that one sounds better to you with your type of music...its probably going to sound better to you with your type of music in your car.
know what I mean?
-vq
Tim L.
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actually, i read adire's marketing sales pitch on their website of offering their product at a reasonable price.. i have an Econ degree, so i figured they're just offering their product at X price, considerably lower than their ideal, to increase demand and sales.. name brand recognition is an invaluable intangible..
i was just wondering if you had dealed with any of their brahma subs and could tell me how their build quality, and SQ, would stack up against, say, a DD 9512e?
VQ, sorry, don't mean to jack your thread.. you're right, the music you listen to and the sub you use makes a difference, especially using the SAME box in the SAME car, with the SAME equalization, etc.. it's good you're happy with your sub.. that's all that matters..
the Adire Brahmas are fantastic subs, and they take a hellishly large amount of power. They sound good, and get very loud. They are worth hearing at least. If you have the room and the power for them, they won't let ya down. DD is the same way. great subs.
Glass, Would the JBL 600:1 be powerful enough to drive the Brahma? Do you think I need a new alternator for this amplifier? In general at what kind of power need that you start thinking about a new alternator/battery? Thanks
the 600.1 will work, but that's a better match to a Shiva. The Brahma takes more power than that. When your lights dim, and voltage rails sag, that's when you need a bigger alternator. That's really the only way to tell for sure.
when it says that the sub reaches its mechanical limits at much less pwr than the peak rms, is mechanical limits mean the same as achieving full Xmax displacement?