Sense everyone is asking about spl...

 

Silver Member
Username: Taylor17

Kopperl, Texas

Post Number: 522
Registered: Jan-05
I was just wondering what db a system had to reach be for it will break glass?
 

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Username: Rob315

Cuse, NY U.S.

Post Number: 129
Registered: Jan-05
ill tell ya when i get there..lol
 

Silver Member
Username: Invain

Michigan United States

Post Number: 639
Registered: Aug-04
It's not just the decibels. You have to get the right frequency. The easiest way to break glass is to match it's resonant frequency. With a high frequency glass can shatter from vibration with db's only around 135.
 

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Username: Rob315

Cuse, NY U.S.

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Registered: Jan-05
really?
 

Silver Member
Username: Taylor17

Kopperl, Texas

Post Number: 526
Registered: Jan-05
sweet! Can you explaine a little more? I find that kind of stuff interesting.
 

Gold Member
Username: Insearchofbass

Post Number: 1087
Registered: Jun-04
joe is right matching the frequency is one way but to answer the other part in car audio glass usually breaks from the seals of the glass like the windshield expanding
 

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Username: Taylor17

Kopperl, Texas

Post Number: 527
Registered: Jan-05
lol Rob When do you think that will be?
 

Silver Member
Username: Taylor17

Kopperl, Texas

Post Number: 528
Registered: Jan-05
Do you know what frequency Glass break's at the easiest?
 

Gold Member
Username: Insearchofbass

Post Number: 1088
Registered: Jun-04
which makes me wonder like my buddy said once wether a old split window truck would do well for spl
 

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Username: Subfanatic

Walton, Ky Usa

Post Number: 204
Registered: Dec-04
my friend built a HUGE box for his 15 inch X.XX and this box was basically like bigger than me...ported and he turned it on...played some songs...put on the song...woofer cooker...intense song by the way...and like 5 seconds into it...his front and rear window cracked in half and the middles of the windows fell in on us...idk it was sooo intense...GOD awesome
 

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Username: Southernrebel

Monroe, Louisiana USA

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Registered: Mar-04
Most of the time when someone...(your average joe street pounder)...breaks their windshield, it was prolly weak to begin with. But all the "stories" you hear say that they where super-loud and thats why they shattered the glass.

I have personally ran cracks (that started like 4in long)in my windshield. Sometimes as far as 3ft in just a little while. I did this w/ a single L512 in a 1.1cu ft sealed box on a bp600.1. As a matter of fact...i have bout a 2ft crack in my windshield now.

At bass frequencies, you are prolly not going to be doing the glasses resonant freq., but if you found the glasses res. freq. it wouldnt be all that hard to break it.

Glass can flex more than you would think also. Watch a few of the vids on realmofexcursion.com, you will see w/ I am talking about. I have seen guys in my town brag about shattering their windows...but like a week b4 that they had a 2ft crack in the same glass.

I'm not saying its impossible to break glass...i'm just saying that some of the stories you hear are not the "whole-truth". Glass can and will break...just think about it, how many usaci extreme vehicles have plexy-glass instead of glass...lol
 

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Username: Southernrebel

Monroe, Louisiana USA

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Registered: Mar-04
15" X.X.X.'s are capable of producing SPL around 150db in the right install. Depending on what vehicle it is in and how much the vehicle flexed...I wouldnt be super surprised that you could break glass.
 

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Username: Subfanatic

Walton, Ky Usa

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Registered: Dec-04
it was a corrola i believe...or a camry one of the two for sure lol....but there was nothing wrong with it at all..i think it was a 2003 at the time...but then like right after he repaced the window..he totaled it lol...now he has a shelby cobra lol...drastic change...would you say?
 

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Username: Southernrebel

Monroe, Louisiana USA

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Registered: Mar-04
...just a tiny change...lol
 

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Username: Subfanatic

Walton, Ky Usa

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Registered: Dec-04
yea id say lol
 

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Username: Invain

Michigan United States

Post Number: 644
Registered: Aug-04
Your not gonna get close to "really shattering" the glass with subwoofer frequency's. If somebody does blow the glass out from a sub than it's from too much stress on a crappy glass, or huge cracks. Most glass has a resonant frequency in the 4000 hz range.
 

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Username: Taylor17

Kopperl, Texas

Post Number: 534
Registered: Jan-05
A Shelby Cobra, wow! lol Not that much of a change.
So let me see if I got this right... You match the glasses frequency, but glasses frequency is like in the 4k range so it is like almost impasable:-)
I say just get 3 mt's and put 2000 watt's to each, and that should do the trick!:-)
Who am I kidding, I couldn't aford that!:-)
 

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Username: Joe_pilk

Reading, PA USA

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Registered: Feb-05
I've pulled my windows away from the seals more times than I cared to fix with one 12" Alpine type X, never cracked one though. I have seen a buddy's Jetta crack with 8 MTX 10" Thunder 8500's though, car only hit about 149 dB, but it was a new car, windshield itself was fine, quite a sight...
 

Anonymous
 
"my friend built a HUGE box for his 15 inch X.XX and this box was basically like bigger than me...ported and he turned it on...played some songs...put on the song...woofer cooker...intense song by the way...and like 5 seconds into it...his front and rear window cracked in half and the middles of the windows fell in on us...idk it was sooo intense...GOD awesome"

uuuum, how exactly did the glass fall in on you. all new cars have safety glass. it will break or crack but its not going to shatter and fall in on you. and if that box was so big how was it in the trunk of a camry?
 

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Username: Subfanatic

Walton, Ky Usa

Post Number: 227
Registered: Dec-04
like he built it while in the trunk...it cant be removed...like he putr in each bored singly and used a sideways screwdriver to attach it all...and the glass like cracked and made a circle...then the circle broke in...idk...it just happened
 

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Username: Invain

Michigan United States

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Registered: Aug-04
Was it an old window? That sounds odd for the window to just shatter in.
 

Anonymous
 
subfanatic is on crack. just like on the other thread where he says somebody is selling a w7 in a box for $200. sure buddy.
 

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Username: James1115

Wilton, Ct

Post Number: 941
Registered: Dec-04
anon is right windshield glass is shatterproof in all cars now. It makes no sense.
 

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Username: Southernrebel

Monroe, Louisiana USA

Post Number: 363
Registered: Mar-04
yep...the glass in my truck is shatterproof.

Bout 2yrs ago a buddy of mine tried to kill a fly that was buzzin round in my cab while we were at sonic. He had his class ring on when he swatted at the fly. It lit on the windshield and he kinda balled up a loose fist and punched it...put bout a 1.5ft diameter spider-web in the middle of the glass. The glass stayed...but it had that huge crack.

Oh...and he missed the fly. :-)
 

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Username: Invain

Michigan United States

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Registered: Aug-04
And then you took his ring off and shoved it up his anus?
 

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Username: James1115

Wilton, Ct

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Registered: Dec-04
hahahahahahaha! well I guess that disproves sub's theory of the glass falling in on him.
 

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Username: Subfanatic

Walton, Ky Usa

Post Number: 230
Registered: Dec-04
haha...actually taht doesnt disprove anything,..you guys dont have to believe me if you dont want to...whatever..but iwa s there...and i know wat happened...it was not supposed to happen...but it did..and iknow he had wrecked the car a few times before...but its notl ike i come on here to lie to you guys
 

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Username: Southernrebel

Monroe, Louisiana USA

Post Number: 364
Registered: Mar-04
...my buddy bout $hit himself bout 2sec after he broke the glass...lmmfao

subfanatic...i'm not saying the glass wouldnt fall...when i had that huge crack in my glass i could touch it and it would flex back and forth...if i would have turned my subs on (2 kicker 10's at the time) i wouldnt have been surprized if it would have fell in.

what i am betting is that your buds glass was weak already...thats the most likly reason that it shattered...the bass prolly keep playing after the window started to crack. i have seen guys do mid-150's and the windshields would separate from the seals.
 

Silver Member
Username: Taylor17

Kopperl, Texas

Post Number: 561
Registered: Jan-05
He missed!:-) lol
 

Silver Member
Username: James1115

Wilton, Ct

Post Number: 982
Registered: Dec-04
yeah I still dont buy it!
 

Silver Member
Username: Invain

Michigan United States

Post Number: 660
Registered: Aug-04
I really don't either. Hey, I'm not calling you a liar, if just sounds odd to me. You could put brass knuckles on and punch your windshield, and it still wouldn't shatter all over. Have you ever tried to beat an old car with a baseball bat? There used to be old cars left back in our woods when I was younger, and I'd go back and play around, beat them up. Trust me, it took some energy to even get the window to break.
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