How does this sound guys???
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Silver Member Username: FfxdevilarmsPost Number: 141 Registered: Jul-04 | 2 Shivas = 250 OBCON dual 12 ported enclosure = 100 Memphis MC500D 500X1 Amp = 200 Nakamichi CD-400 = 290 Head Unit Kit = 12 Wiring Harness = 40 Amplifier Wiring Kit = 40 Memphis MCSQ6.5 Components = 250 16-MCA150 Amp 75X2 Amp = 180 Dynamat Trunk kit = 70 Miscellaneous = 70 $1500 Total |
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Silver Member Username: FfxdevilarmsPost Number: 142 Registered: Jul-04 | bump. | |
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Silver Member Username: FfxdevilarmsPost Number: 143 Registered: Jul-04 | BUMP. | |
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Silver Member Username: JmloughreyFarmington, CT Post Number: 927 Registered: Jul-04 | not too bad, just a suggestion, instead of dynamat try like edead from elemental designs, or you can use water/ice barrier available at lowes or any real home improvment store, its cheaper and you'll be able to get more for less...works the same. Other then that, sounds pretty good, ever try to build a box? | |
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Silver Member Username: FfxdevilarmsPost Number: 144 Registered: Jul-04 | Nope, this is my first system and i really dont have a clue. My friend is going to do the isntallation and i am going to watch and learn. He has never build a box before. Is this box any good for the 2 shivas with 500 watts?
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Silver Member Username: FfxdevilarmsPost Number: 146 Registered: Jul-04 | Also, will 75 watts to my components that are 50 rms damage them, or should i just use the amp in the HU that puts out 47X4?????? | |
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Silver Member Username: JmloughreyFarmington, CT Post Number: 930 Registered: Jul-04 | ok, i'd first off find an amp to better suit your components, chances are pretty good that the 75rms will damage your components. As for your headunit, it doesnt actally put out 47x4rms, thats max, it puts out somewhere more along the lines of 12-16rms...just so ya know | |
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Silver Member Username: SolacedagonyNew Jersey US Post Number: 256 Registered: Oct-04 | Shiva's handle 650W per sub I thought (375W/coil). Also, Jeff, I think he's getting an amp for the components. Memphis MCSQ6.5 Components = 250 16-MCA150 Amp 75X2 Amp = 180 That'll be a pretty nice setup once you get everything in, good luck! |
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Silver Member Username: FfxdevilarmsPost Number: 147 Registered: Jul-04 | since the 75watts might not be so good i decided that it would be best to just get the Nakamichi PA1002 50X2 amp that is actually $50 less than the memphis 2 channel amp. What kind of quality is the Enclosure that i have links to above??? | |
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Silver Member Username: SolacedagonyNew Jersey US Post Number: 257 Registered: Oct-04 | Also, as far as I know, Nakamichi isn't the highest quality stuff so keep that in mind. The 75W should be ok, assuming you're not maxing out your volume knob. The enclosure seems ok to me. Also, am I blind or does that website not tell you what the enclosure is tuned to? |
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Silver Member Username: FfxdevilarmsPost Number: 148 Registered: Jul-04 | Nakamichi is one of the best there is, especially in HU and AMPS. I can't beleive you think that they are not high quality. | |
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Silver Member Username: InvainMichigan United States Post Number: 420 Registered: Aug-04 | I really wouldn't go as far as to say Nakamichi is one of the best there is. There are better headunits from other companies, and I really have never heard anybody recommend their amps. Not saying their bad, but I don't think their top of the line. | |
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Silver Member Username: SolacedagonyNew Jersey US Post Number: 261 Registered: Oct-04 | How much are you paying for the HU? Amp? | |
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Silver Member Username: FfxdevilarmsPost Number: 149 Registered: Jul-04 | Glasswolf said "Nak's amps and head units are very good." I have heard it from many others as well. I am paying 290 for the HU and 140 for the AMP with free delivery. | |
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Silver Member Username: SolacedagonyNew Jersey US Post Number: 265 Registered: Oct-04 | Maybe they are decent quality, for the price anyway. In my mind, I'm comparing them to much higher end stuff, so forgive me. | |
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Silver Member Username: InvainMichigan United States Post Number: 425 Registered: Aug-04 | I'm not saying they are bad. I know they make great headunits and I really haven't heard anything about their amps. I'm saying exactly what Jake is. There are better products out there. | |
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Silver Member Username: FfxdevilarmsPost Number: 152 Registered: Jul-04 | we are all entitled to our own opinions. Anyways, what do you think of the box that i plan on getting for the shivas that i have links to above? I dont want to go through the trouble building one. I am worried that since it is ported that the SQ will be bad. | |
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Anonymous | nakamichi is whack! | |
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Silver Member Username: SolacedagonyNew Jersey US Post Number: 266 Registered: Oct-04 | The box looks pretty good. The SQ shouldn't be bad, it won't be as tight as a sealed, however. Also, you should find out what that box is tuned to. Either sealed or ported, those Shivas should boom pretty decently. If you get the ported and you think it isn't tight enough, go buy a sealed. | |
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Silver Member Username: FfxdevilarmsPost Number: 163 Registered: Jul-04 | My new setup. I changed a few things. Infinity Kappa Perfect 6.1- mounted in stock locations, since my doors are big in my 2003 monte carlo they are aprox. near close to where a kick panel would be in a normal car. 2 Adire Audio Shivas in an OBCON Ported Enclosure-I am getting the dual box and will put them in there powered by the 500 watt amp. 500 watt memphis amp- powering the Subs 75X2 watt memphis amp- powering the components Nakamichi CD-400-The head unit i want. Love the stock look 60 square feet EDEAD |
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Bronze Member Username: DankmanGranger, Indiana United States Post Number: 22 Registered: Jan-05 | It will be pure SOund QUality | |
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Silver Member Username: FfxdevilarmsPost Number: 164 Registered: Jul-04 | oh yeah, almost forgot. I just got a new Memphis EQ7 eualizer that is 7 bands and chrome for $1. Dont know if i will need it, but for a dollar i could pass it up. | |
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Silver Member Username: FfxdevilarmsPost Number: 165 Registered: Jul-04 | do you think i will need 60 square feet of EDEAD to do just my trunk and around the speaker location in the front doors? | |
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Silver Member Username: FfxdevilarmsPost Number: 169 Registered: Jul-04 | shizzit, i dont think the 6.1's will work, crutchfield only shows the 5.1's as fitting my vehicle. I dont know what to do now. Is there a huge diff between the 5.1's and the 6.1's??? | |
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Silver Member Username: FfxdevilarmsPost Number: 170 Registered: Jul-04 | it didnt post up the time and new. Hopefully it will this time. | |
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Silver Member Username: HdubbFarmington, Nm Usa Post Number: 638 Registered: Nov-04 | i would check your car doors. every where i look it tells me to put 6x9s in the back and 4s in the front, but my car has 6.5s in the back and 4x6s in the front. go figure. this is everywhere. bb. local shops. crutch. so look yourself first. | |
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Silver Member Username: FfxdevilarmsPost Number: 171 Registered: Jul-04 | is there a huge diff between the 5.1's and the 6.1's? |
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Silver Member Username: HdubbFarmington, Nm Usa Post Number: 641 Registered: Nov-04 | im not sure i havent dealt with them before but im sure diameter ad mounting depth are different | |
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Silver Member Username: FfxdevilarmsPost Number: 172 Registered: Jul-04 | i meant sound wise. | |
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Silver Member Username: HdubbFarmington, Nm Usa Post Number: 643 Registered: Nov-04 | oh. i dont know | |
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Silver Member Username: FfxdevilarmsPost Number: 175 Registered: Jul-04 | the only thing i can thing i can think of is that since it has a smaller woofer their would not be as much bass. Thats what worries me if i have to go with the 5.1's. | |
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Silver Member Username: SolacedagonyNew Jersey US Post Number: 274 Registered: Oct-04 | If you have subs, I wouldn't worry about getting bass out of my door speakers. | |
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Silver Member Username: FfxdevilarmsPost Number: 177 Registered: Jul-04 | i am worried about mid-bass. | |
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Silver Member Username: Zacdavis~Post Number: 445 Registered: Sep-04 | good point chris, hey, one thing you could do is baffle you 6x9's so they produce your midbass. | |
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Silver Member Username: FfxdevilarmsPost Number: 178 Registered: Jul-04 | if i have to with the 5.1's i think i would decide to replace my 6X9's with the Adire Extremis 6.8, if that is ever possible i would pop two of those back there. I think the reason why the 6.1's wont fit is because of the depth. I have a friend coming over later today and we are going to measure and find out why Cruthfield and Etronics say they wont fit. | |
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Silver Member Username: Zacdavis~Post Number: 449 Registered: Sep-04 | You shouldnt have any trouble fitting them in. The only part of a car that gives me any trouble in that area is the trunk lids torsion bars. Those can't be moved without customizing. Then again your car may have gas shocks that hold up your trunklid, I dont know. The last car I had problems with was a 98 honda accord 2 door coupe. the 6x9 magnets hit the torsion bars so I ended up taking out the torsion bars and built a bracket for a replacement hood shock I picked up from Autozone. But it sounds like you've got this under control anyways, let us know how it turns out. |
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Silver Member Username: FfxdevilarmsPost Number: 179 Registered: Jul-04 | maybe it would be better if i just used that money i would spend on more speakers and possibly find an even better set of components that have a more shallow mounting depth. Any suggestions??? Also, what do you think of the Audiocontrol Epic-160??? | |
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Silver Member Username: FfxdevilarmsPost Number: 180 Registered: Jul-04 | I went on ininity and they have a speaker fit guide that listed my measurements and depth for my car. It has 2.5" and the 6.1's are 2.75" so it looks like they are out. What do you think is the best set for under $350 that would fit. So far i am looking at the 5.1 but mid-bass might be lacking and i dont want to do any rear fill. Then other set i was looking at was the focal 6.5 polyglass slim set. I dont know what the measurements are though. Any ideas on a component set would be greatly appreciated. | |
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Gold Member Username: Jonathan_fGA USA Post Number: 3191 Registered: May-04 | "Also, as far as I know, Nakamichi isn't the highest quality stuff so keep that in mind" "Maybe they are decent quality, for the price anyway. In my mind, I'm comparing them to much higher end stuff, so forgive me." Exactly, "as far as you know", meaning you've never seen or used a Nak head unit or amplifier. So what high end equipment are you comparing it to? A Nak head unit will easily match up to any Alpine, Eclipse, or Premier head unit you put beside it, with the exception of the $3,000 Alpine CDA-7990. Quit spouting off opinions when you haven't even used the equipment to develop a fair opinion on it. "I know they make great headunits and I really haven't heard anything about their amps. I'm saying exactly what Jake is. There are better products out there." Nakamichi makes extremely good electronics. Their head units and amps are every bit of top of the line. See post above. The CD-700 is an excellent head unit and absolutely gorgeous, not your typical head unit, it's very stealthy and classy. Analog pots, very few controls, and fewer features, and IMO it's in a good way because it focuses on using well designed high end electronics as opposed to cramming everything that you can possibly fit inside a DIN size unit. I wish more manufacturers would make head units that looked like that. The main thing you lose with their head units are features like EQ and other processing, but if you're going with a high end system you'll have 1/3 octave equalizers handling the job anyway, and possibly crossovers, etc. |
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Silver Member Username: FfxdevilarmsPost Number: 184 Registered: Jul-04 | I think that this is going to end up being my final setup. 2 Adire Shivas Nakamich CD-400 Focal 165 V Slim 6.5 Polyglass Components 60X2 Memphis 500 watt amp for sub Zapco Iforce I-250 50X2 or Cadence 60X2??? Dual 12 ported OBCON box. If anyone has any ideas that would make it better but stay in the price range of 1500, let me know. Also, i was looking at the Audiocontrol Epic-160. I would spend the extra coin if ya think that it would make a differnce in the bass. |
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Silver Member Username: FfxdevilarmsPost Number: 185 Registered: Jul-04 | Bump. | |
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Silver Member Username: James1115Wilton, Ct Post Number: 634 Registered: Dec-04 | Man I dont know how I kept passing over this thread but I would have loved to say a thing or two about Nakamichi. They are very nice high end components not to mention pretty $$$ as well. I used to have a naki amp about 6 years ago running a set of ADS 325 components and man that amp sounded crystal clear. I have seen a few systems in high end car audio mag's with all macintosh and Nakamichi equipment and man it looked nice and the ratings it got was unbelievable. You are making a smart choice by staying with them you cant go wrong with it. Very nice stuff, your system should sound very nice. | |
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Silver Member Username: FfxdevilarmsPost Number: 186 Registered: Jul-04 | I hope so. Above I put the zapco or Cadence, i think that i have decided on the zapco one purely from reviews that they are geared extremely towards SQ, which is a good thing. I doubt that 10 watts will make that much of a difference. Also, i heard that they underrate their wattage, is that true? | |
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Silver Member Username: James1115Wilton, Ct Post Number: 637 Registered: Dec-04 | yes Zapco is top of the line quality. You have picked out some nice stuff. | |
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Silver Member Username: FfxdevilarmsPost Number: 187 Registered: Jul-04 | do you think that i should get either an equalizer or the epic-160 from audiocontrol for bass improvement? I think that is the last thing that i need to know. | |
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Silver Member Username: James1115Wilton, Ct Post Number: 638 Registered: Dec-04 | The epic is a nice unit but I dont think you need it. I would install everything and if you arnt happy with the way it sounds then go ahead and try the Epic or a EQ. I dont know about the features that the Naki deck has if it doesnt have the controls you want then look into it but I would hook it all up first and see how much control you have with the deck first. | |
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Silver Member Username: FfxdevilarmsPost Number: 188 Registered: Jul-04 | Changed my mind about the memphis amp and just orderd the Zapco Refernce 500 watt amp | |
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Silver Member Username: FfxdevilarmsPost Number: 189 Registered: Jul-04 | Oh, i alsmost forgot. I think i have a 100 amp alt. Do you think that the 600 watts that i will be using will cause to much current draw? | |
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Silver Member Username: FfxdevilarmsPost Number: 190 Registered: Jul-04 | bump | |
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Silver Member Username: InvainMichigan United States Post Number: 528 Registered: Aug-04 | 600 rms or peak? 100 amps should be ok for either. | |
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Silver Member Username: FfxdevilarmsPost Number: 191 Registered: Jul-04 | thats good. I also decided that it would prob be best to build a box for the subs instead of buying one premaid. Does anyone have any ideas for what the dimensions of the box should be for 2 shivas and a mix of SPL and SQ? I will be using the 500 watts Zapco Amp. | |
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Silver Member Username: FfxdevilarmsPost Number: 193 Registered: Jul-04 | i Changed my mind and went with the zapco 500 reference amp. I am going to use the Din to RCA male cable to go from my amp to my head unit because i dont want to clear my bank account out to get the Symbilink stuff. I will save up and upgrade later and get the 7 band equalizer/preamp line driver for symbilink. Wish me luck as i plan on ordering everything within the next week after i find out weather or not the Nakamichi CD-400 will fit in my 2003 monte carlo after some searching on the internet. |
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