If I were you I would be embarrassed showing my system, that is weak!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now even though it is 11PM here in FL I went outside and took pics of, as you call it my "Massive System" or my "dream system" whatever you wanna call it is fine with me as long as you remember who destroys your W7's on a daily basis. My stereo is completely self installed and designed to the last detail by me. Now as you requested, here are the pictures that prove that I am your god. Since I took high quality pictures of my system that are WAY bigger than 1 kilobyte I just created a Shutterfly account. So if you want to see the major ownage, view this page: http://share.shutterfly.com/action/welcome?sid=2ActWrRwzYsXGg¬ag=1
Wow nice system! Nice to see you have the hardware to back up what you said. How much did you drop in that system? I'm curious. By the way, I am not embarrased about what I have- I still have a trunk and I can still bump. I was really dissappointed in your head unit though, I really expected something better than that.
What's really embarrassing is that you would invest time and money into an extensive installation of L7s, Infinity amplifiers, and Sony head units. It is more a waste of time than restoring a Pinto would be, you can't polish a turd.
interestingly enough, that's exactly the type of install that would be expected from the audio/performance mags of today. actually its fairly typical. regardless, TNT, yours is the quintessential car i look forward to seeing in the lanes.
I just love TNT HE's Hi res pics. They show all the gouges around the stereo in the dash, oh, not to mention all the wrinkles in that blue adhesive plastic that he used to cover his speaker box. He must of mounted the speakers on the outside of the box to facilitate easier replacement of them as they are more susceptible to blowouts- gotta give him some bonus points there. I just wonder what he trying to block in the picture of his head unit where he is holding up his remote? Maybe a hole in his dash? Or possibly more gashes? I sure hope he's not bragging he has a remote. Now for the wiring and the batcap. Wait, did I see a batcap?? OMG a overpriced gel cell battery! I wish I thought of that idea! All a batcap is, is a bunch of capacitors in series- just the opposite of what we are trying to to achieve. Each cap has to discharge through the next- yeah back to square one- resistance increases in series and baBAM you would have been better off buying a Optima or two. Plus, what if you stopped suddenly? Wouldn't that batcap go flying, and arcy sparky- you might get a nickname from that TNT HE- probably smoky- oh and by the way, who needs a remote when that PAC SWI works pretty good as I have all my stereo controls mapped to my steering wheel controls- oh and don't forget TNT HE, you might ask yourself what about the navigation controls then? Ah, Confucious says "Why push buttons when you can just speak into the microphone". Zero noise you say? Ahh. I had an extra one farad capacitior sitting around the shop that a customer returned about a year ago and the boss gave it to me, so I wired it directly to my alternator. The longest wire on the thing is one foot and by golly I have joined the zero noise world. Anyone that has just an inkling of alternator whine- this will kill it at the source. Plus its a real alternator saver and of course the voltmeter adds some wow factor under the hood. This also showed me that my alternator is actually putting out about 15.3 volts, but until now with the inadequate factory wiring, I have not been able to deliver that to the amps. That has all changed now and my second cap in the the trunk is reporting 14.7-15 volts across my second optima battery. I will wait until dark to take photos of the under the hood cap install just so I don't have any advantage against TNT HE's "HI-RES" photos. Oh and TNT- you must not know much about computers either as a one kilobye photo is about the size of this period here >. Oh and by the way TNT HE- what's all this "I AM YOUR GOD" stuff? That is real childish, but then so is your grocery getter, oh- you can't even do that anymore as there is no place to put the groceries! Next time be nicer in your posts, TNT HE. Peter said this
and just to clarify "typical," i mean one guy actually had two tv screens and a 5.25 kicker mid in his grill. they decided it would be worthy of a 1st place mention in a magazine *sigh, w/ hand on forhead*. i can personally find an infinite number of (more) practical audio applications. but hey, it's not my ride.
Preferably i whould wanna go with the 12W7 if i could fit it but im working with some space issues in the back of my ride due to the folding seats. I have a 32" clearance as far as width which is the problem. My 2 12w6v2's as seen in the picture barely fits and its 32" width as you can see how tight it looks. The 12w7 is 34" so i wont be able to work with it and i dont wanna remove those folding seats in the cargo area. Besides ill get the most out of the 500 rated rms rating that matches the amp perfectly and its in a suv so ill get maximum output.
Hey MO I hear ya on the space constraints. System looks good. I like the platform, but it does look like its missing a grille on the front face of the platform. I'm curious, do you plan to put something on it or is that still work in progress for something else? This is a little off the subject, but here are the pics of my under the hood install of my cap on my alternator. Say, do you guys have any other install ideas other than zip ties? It looks so ghetto that way, but WOW a big difference on performance. Zero and I mean no headlight dimming and zero noise, even with the volume jacked up (audio on pause) and the gains maxed out. Not even a pop from hitting the brakes or turn signals. Before I would hear a noticeable Brrrrrrrr noise when my traction system kicks in, now no noise. I kinda miss it- it reminds me of a turbo...... I was thinking of using a couple of large metal hose clamps with that rubber chafing gear on it. And yes, I did waterproof the cap voltmeter. I even coated the PCB to make sure nothing happens to it.
It cracks me up reading how many people want to go back and forth about the sledgehammer, the w7, and the solo x's. Even the Eclipses fans are getting in on it now. I know that some of you people on here understand what you are taolking about. But before you can really say what type of system is louder and better, you need to know so much more about the setup. What kind of car it is, where the sub is positioned, how big the box is.... there is a lot to compare the two. I like how MTX compares the sledgehammer to the w7 on paper. I have installed many stereos, and i have used everything from pyle and legacy, to eclipse and jl audio. I have a 2002 quad cab dodge ram, and i put a 12w7 in a custom box in the center console facing the rear seat. I put the 1000/1 to it and turned up the gain a little over half. Because of the amount of room that I have in it, it was loud, but it was not the nerve racking sound that I wanted. My friends Trans Am has 1 10" L7 with a rockford 800.2 that is louder because it is in a smaller vehicle, with a hatch. I put 4 12" w0's into an old cutlass with 200 watts to each of them and we blew the trunk latch off of it. I have put 4 15" MA's in a civic hatchback with 1500 watt MA's to each pair and blew the windows out of it, then put the same setup in an excursion and got half of the power. After thinking about all of this, I am trying to figrue out what type of setup to put into my ram. I am going to be putting it into my center console still, but the w7 just wasnt loud or clear enough. Right now I am putting two eclipse 7124.t4's in facing up towards the ceiling, and running a PPI 1000.1. I thought about a solo x 12 and the 2500.1, that is how I found this forum, but my biggest thing that I need is SQ. I love the SPL, but with it being my daily driver, and being right in the middle of the listening area, I do not know what will be my best SPL/SQ balance, knowing that I only have enough room for the most of 2 15's, depending on breathing room. More than likely thoug, i would like to stay with the twelves. Let em know what you all think!
your not gunna get the sq you want from a solo x. im kinda surprised the W7 wasnt clear enough for your likings. I would def look into RE XXX, even though they aren't selling it right now because a new design is just released, but if you can wait a few months, the new ones look awesome, and XXX in general are know to be great for sq as well as being loud as hell. You might also look into IDMAX for sq, and maybe RE MT if you want it really loud. You can only find RE products at their website www.reaudio.com. Im personally waiting on a RE SX 12", which is supposed to be slightly louder than the xxx but less sq, which is why its cheaper. Ill let you know how it sounds when i get it.
all you guys are idiots dumb a**es an jl 13w7 is known for its excursion i have a friend with three 13w7 hifonics amp like an 5000 watt amp it makes your hair shake crazy but i have i 15 solo x with the same amp my firend had i broke my window to my house when my car was in the garage imagine if i had three w7 create more air but solo x mor vibration jk you guys arnt idiots but solo x are more powerful than w7 and cheaper
wow. the hostility on the forum tonight is pretty high. must be a full moon or something. nice install MO. all i was saying about the 10" is that i wouldn't give the 12w7 any less than 1-1.2kw. but i've heard the 10" sound very nice with that little power (500/1).
Just my opinion here stay away from kicker..They have gone way downhill since they started getting the speakers made overseas several years ago...they are not the same quality that they hade when made here in USA by this company http://www.credencespeakers.com/
Credence was one of the reasons that kicker had such good speakers but Kicker decided to go cheap and get chinese made crap.
I just got two kicker L5 in a sealed box a few weeks ago with a directed 1200watt max power amp. i am not impresed with with the sound qulity or how loud they get. i spent $800 on this system. could i have done better with the money i spent?
JL AUDIO doesnt suck ive 2 12 inch jl 12w3d4's in a sealed box which ive been abuisng for 6 years now which piece of sh*t lanzar vibe 250. which hit 143.6 dbs
i have (2) 500/1's. what sub or subs should i run with these amps
mo i really like the way your setup is. it looks clean.
i dont know mutch about systems all i know is that when i had my 13w7 jl with only a 1000 watt jl amp one channel, i got a lot of thumbs up everywhere i went. and most of my friends all had kickers and their was just not mutch comparing my one speaker underpowered with only 1000 watts with their 1-4 12 inch box shaped kickers- to bad i aint got nothing now,
Of the subs out there *NOW*... I say get something from soundsplinter or ID if you are looking for SQ... or the type R for SPL ;) lmao -- rly though if you can eat the large box size it does model quite nice and some crazies over at CACom have been churning out 150+dB with a single 15" or a pair of 12/10" type Rs in a proper (large) box... Rly only flat from 30-60hz though... so robust mids are needed... or some EQ ;)
Im just wondering...whats better if i want something that hits like none other but still has awesome sound quality...the 13W1v2 or the 13W7's...i plan on getting 2 but i want to know what you guys recommend? Thanks
What do you think about the rockford RFR3110? I know they are kind of old now, but I was thinking about running two of those with one Rockford type rf x7 amp. Its not as expensive of a setup as jl audio, but I was wondering because I have never heard those subs.
i think rockford fosgate T2's are nuts...i have 2 12 inch T2's and i have been powering them WAY over their peak watts ever since i got them, which was the week after they came out, and they love it..no distortion or anything and the sound that they put out is un-real, i have them in a truck right now but im buying a 1998 toyota supra twin turbo and im putting them in because of the hatch, so it should be louder..which is kind of hard for me to concieve...if i had my choice out of any speakers it would deffinitely be the rockford fosgate T2 power series...they are nuts
all up people fighting over jl and kicker subs its all about the box and amp i have 2 15 inch L7s with a kicker kx2500 in a 2003 grand prix gtp inm a six cubic foot box and my friend has a 2000 grand prix gt with 2-13 inch w7s with a kicker kx2500 and they both hit at almost exact db but his box is a cubic ft smaller
MAN I ONLY HAVE 2 CVR 15'S IN A PORTED BOX.<img> [img]http://images.paxed.com/photos/169/1153193.jpg[/img] WITH A KX 600.1 MONO AMP, AND A DIRECTED 1500D WATT AMP BACK THERE. AND MY SUBS STILL DONT SOUND LOUD. WHAT DO U THINK I SHOULD DO. IM THINKIN ABOUT UPGRADING TO L7'S
I have a 18 solo-x in the back seat of a 4 door cadillac.Two 6000 watt MA Audio Hard Kore Amps. Runnin my mids and highs is a 700x4 Kicker digital amp.Custom built 1 1/8 thick enclosure with a 1/4 of an inch of rihno liner. And no one has been able to see me.When I pull up at a stop light I make cars with 10s 12s and 13s rollthey motherfuckin windows up. Solo-X END OF DISCUSSION
I just finished two dreadnaut 12"s in a burban pumped by a mmats 3k. WOW! never heard two twelves move soooo much air! Beat to heck the mtx 9512 he had before...
My friend has two JL W7 10's & two Kicker L7 10's, all in his Monte Carlo trunk. On comparing, we noticed the JL's and Kickers hit equally hard inside the vehicle, but the Kickers carried further outside. I also have two Kicker L7 15's in my 4Runner and metered at 158 decibels(dBs), which out-boomed my friend's two 18's driven on two Memphis amps. My front windshield/rear tailgate & glass moved like a woofer, scalp-hair floated on the ceiling, and keys danced about 6 inches off the roof. AC/DC concert: 130 dBs. Windows break: 163 dBs.
Okay. I have been in the car audio buisness for about 11 years now. My brother and I own our own shop. We sell Kicker Audio and JL Audio. Ill tell you that the Kicker L7's are the best selling product. I personally run 2 12" W7's, and trust me I have the right box. (If you want I'll post a picture if I can find out how.) They are both powerd by Jl Audio 1000.1 amps. It's a MEAN system. I have only installed a few Kicker Solo X 18's. But one was the most wild installation I have ever done. There was a gentleman that wanted 2 Kicker Solo X 18's! He purchased 6 ZX 2500.1 amps to power these subs. He had 15'000 watts going to his subs! When we tested it it hit 166.1 DB's. I did'nt think that was that great at all. When he hit about 145 DB's you could already notice sputtering and distortion. What I thought was going to be a very loud/mean system was loud but not worth the money he had spent. My two JL Audio W7's are hit 162.7 DB's. I spend under HALF on the best quality of subs of what this gentelman spent! I have SO much more quality. It isnt even comparable. Both are very nice subs but W7's are by far a much better subwoofer. 2 8's will even sound much better than 2 L7 10's. After All this guy's system didnt get much louder. Another little Kicker is that I have my orignal ford window's in my Expedition. This gentelman would have blown his away. For anyone located in the Napervill IN. area I would be glad to set you up with a good sound audio system.
i am running one solobaric 12 L7 and compared to the 10 w7 my friend is running mine puts his to shame solo xs will beat a jl any day of the week and save u money at the same time just wait till i get that solo x 12 im my pro box i dont care what u have n less its a solobaric u aint bangin!
hell no w7s do not have better sound quality than the solox the solo x is the ultimate sub the L7s compare to the w7s and the solo x puts them to shame i wanted a w7 till i heard the price and then heard the diff. in speakers the solo x is actually worth the money unlike the jl
I'm not sure because I haven't looked at the older standings months and months. However, the 18" Kicker Solo X did in fact win a nation finals even for SQ and placed 2nd in a world finals event. I know the driver was ported too. I'd call Kickers tech dept. and ask Drew, he's a friend of mine and we've talked about it a few times in the past. He or Jeremy could tell you were to find it probably. I've had a 12 and 13 W7. Both were amazing woofers. I don't see how you can compare the two though. The Solo X is built for SPL. With a power handling of 5000 RMS for comp use ONLY, daily use is only 2700 RMS at most. Both companies have been around for years for one reason, they both make quality products. I've seen 2 8" L7s hit over 148dB with my own eyes, I've seen systems with L7s win SQ comp too. I've also seen JL systems win SQ comps AND SPL comps. Most SPL guys over power their subs to the point of woofer failure on purpose too. You have to keep in mind that the install will make or break the whole system, you can have the best products in the world, but if you have the wrong enclosure and placement, you can be beat by a budget system with a perfect install.I've had my W7s in more than 15 enclosures just to change things up. That and enclosure placement will alter the systems reproduction of sound. I real SPL system plays in burps and DOES NOT play music at all. You'll never see a real SQ vehicle being burped at a comp as you'll never hear a real SPL vehicle sound good. most people are into SQL, and that's fine. Just don't bash a product unless you know the install inside and out and then you can make a fair judgement. I love the fact that you can get a recone kit for the Kicker Solo X woofers. My good friend has ran his 18" Solo X on 2 1250.1s for about 2 years now and he's never had an issue. It's not an SPL setup and it's not an SQ setup, it's a setup designed for his liking, for his music and taste. I've seen some of the best woofers sound like butt and I've seen some budget system pound and have very nice SQ. It's all in the install.
I'm not sure because I haven't looked at the older standings months and months. However, the 18" Kicker Solo X did in fact win a nation finals even for SQ and placed 2nd in a world finals event. I know the driver was ported too. I'd call Kickers tech dept. and ask Drew, he's a friend of mine and we've talked about it a few times in the past. He or Jeremy could tell you were to find it probably. I've had a 12 and 13 W7. Both were amazing woofers. I don't see how you can compare the two though. The Solo X is built for SQ or SPL, I heard it in SQL setups too. With a power handling of 5000 RMS for comp use ONLY, daily use is only 2700 RMS at most. Both companies have been around for years for one reason, they both make quality products. I've seen 2 8" L7s hit over 148dB with my own eyes, I've seen systems with L7s win SQ comp too. I've also seen JL systems win SQ comps AND SPL comps. Most SPL guys over power their subs to the point of woofer failure on purpose too. You have to keep in mind that the install will make or break the whole system, you can have the best products in the world, but if you have the wrong enclosure and placement, you can be beat by a budget system with a perfect install.I've had my W7s in more than 15 enclosures just to change things up. That and enclosure placement will alter the systems reproduction of sound. I real SPL system plays in burps and DOES NOT play music at all. You'll never see a real SQ vehicle being burped at a comp as you'll never hear a real SPL vehicle sound good. most people are into SQL, and that's fine. Just don't bash a product unless you know the install inside and out and then you can make a fair judgement. I love the fact that you can get a recone kit for the Kicker Solo X woofers. My good friend has ran his 18" Solo X on 2 1250.1s for about 2 years now and he's never had an issue. It's not an SPL setup and it's not an SQ setup, it's a setup designed for his liking, for his music and taste. I've seen some of the best woofers sound like butt and I've seen some budget system pound and have very nice SQ. It's all in the install.
I think it was Mark Eldridge that won finals with a Solo-X. It doesn't really speak a lot about the Solos, Mark Eldridge could win finals with a Sony Xplod demo vehicle if he wanted to - he's just that good.
Actually, scratch that, it was Gary Biggs. Eldridge used L7s. But remember that they're sponsored by Kicker. Same story, though, they could win with anything. Stock systems have won SQ comps before, it's all about tuning.
is the kicker l7 really a bad sub//should i save my money for something else
Jonathon what do you think of legacy LW12590 or power acoustik fUBR12 subs? I'm planning on buying my first system soon and don't won't to waste my money. on this site http://www.cardiscountstereos.com
re and diamond audio are probably the best all around subs for the money. unless your entering in comps or you are the most picky b!tch in the world on sound quality, one 15" sub will be perfect if you power and install them right. about 20 people on this website actually use their sub to its limits.
I have 1 12W7 with a jl 500/1, but it's not powerful enough. Should i get 2 13W7's with jl 1000/1 to each one or should i just add 2 10w7's and 2 500/1 to the 12 that i already have? I listen to a lot of rock music so i want it musical with that but i also want it to be loud as hell.
Theres a guy here in my City thats 9th in the country for Ground Pounding... not sure what that means but hes got the trophy mounted in front of his 8 13w7's he has jl amps... he was alos JL sponsored for awhile but was dropped due to the fact that he was a drug dealer.. lol... Our Audiobahn Dealership in town has more kicker speakers and JL speakers for sale, the owner goes to competitions and in his yukon he has 16 12kicker comps on a 2400wat audiobahn amp. If i could afford either of the 2 id pick w7's i personally have 2 of the 03 version L7's or whatever year the L7 isnt printed on the cone its on the magnet though. there in my cougar and a dude with 1 13w7 get more looks down the road than i do.
right now im running a 13 inch w7 with a 1000 watt jl audio amp, the system is incredibly loud people can hear it a mile away i just installed to 7 inch clarion lcds in my headrests, but i find the w7 delivers its bass better then any other sub im only runnin one and it leaves my ears ringing
Hey I'm thinkin of getin a sound system 4 my 05 silverado extended cab... I still want 2 have da back seats so wut should I put... I wuz told 2 put 2 mtx 10` 7500 subs... Wut do u guys think would b da best?
I got a 05 F150, Reg. Cab, I just recently removed my console and left with 2 bucket seats ive always owned JL i dont believe theres any better quality sounding subs around, I have nice amount of room to make a custom fiberglass box, i havent heard the new 13w6v2's, so what would be better for my JL 500/1 the 13w6 or the 10w7?? I know they both handle 500 but i dont wanna over power
just want to let all you know you cant beat jl!! kicker's ok. but jl is the best in all models. im runnin a 13w7 seald box on a zapco 9.0 for my front highs mb quartz q's on a zapco 4.0. and back dash same!hade to upgrade my altinator! sq like a mother. hade to spend like almost 3g's just to be able to hook and wire this type of power!! beat that.
HAHA sony xplods....... POS is all i think sony is........ one of my 12' audiobahn immortals is louder..... Alot of SPL but they got distorted on me.(speaker problems)... Im getting them replaced already though for my 100$ in shipping..... I think square is wrong... the only kickers i ever was even close to buying was a set of them with box\amp and power cap for 300$ it was a first generation pair of kicker solobarics with a 1600watt kick mono block......It was hitting real hard....just crappy sounds... Dont go with kicker...... unless you dont give a f*(* what it sounds like and only want it to beat..for how long... dunno
for all you JL bashers, stop, JL is a great company and they make awesome quality subs, and as for the kicker bashers, yes the square design sucks, but as for the old round solobarics, they sounded amazing when i bought them, they still sound amazing, 10 years later, and John, unless you dont give a f*** about what it sounds like dont go with kicker? maybe with the L5, L7, and Solo X's but not with the old round solo barics i should slap you with my SQ trophies
yah guyz i agree that JL audio is louder and the best sub but you might scammed heard that jl audio sub like 27 nd 26v2 are selling not totally freshed some of them are already used in car shows so you guyz carefull in buying jl audio ! thnx! guyz!
I got 2 L7s 12 inch powered by a Concept 1000 watt amp.....I need more power! what should i upgrade to.....I was thinking 2 W7s or maybe building a box and putting in 4 L7s....i got a jeep grand cherokee and i need help! I am looking for hard pounding yet clear bass....Believe it or not but with my only 2 L7s Im blowing eveyone away in the local towns but i need more power!..i dont even feel it anymore lol write back on the message board or i m me at mgrevolution or email me at firstname.lastname@example.org......
hEY yow guys I am from Russia and i have got a Kicker solo x 18 and you now last month it has given 181.23db in my Hummer and you are dont know anything about Kicker's potencial.And i thing if you wanna quality bass in your car so get a jl 13w7 ,but if you need a mad bassssssss so get a KICKER SOLO X 18
Huh what do you think about 182 db its not 150,160or 170 db its a real gale and its only one sub i'm gonna put second one and so i could get over than 200 db .in addition Kicker is the best subwoofer which can makes you die
It can you die huh? lol i dont think it can do that now, maybe it can get good db to but the quality of it is crap compared to alot of other subs on the market... for the most part i think people care about the quality over the amount of bass as long as they are still hitting around 100db depending on there taste... Maybe if your run 4 of those at half power each it will sound alot better and give you the good bass?lol thats your only way for the quality to stay..but those are square
And what are we talking about .WE are discussing which subwoofer is the loudest.do we? I just cant understand why people says that the w7 is the best in SPL but i think Jl w7 is the best subwoofer in sql not a spl.So guys this is my advice for you guys .if you wanna have musical natural bass so buy the w7 one and also you could be sql champion.but if you wanna get real bass which can makes you die .And also you could spl champion so get the Kicker solo x one .Thats it no more way
W7 is not made for SPL at all its all SQL, and i dont think you can die from those sounds....hell no you cant. lol I never measured W7 pressure because i dont have any, my friend does but they still sounded alot cleaner then anything i have ever heard from kicker, i prefer Clean bass over distorded garbage cant you hear the nasty sound of the square shaped combing poping :-\ ew
ok guys ur comparing 2 completely different subs here tryin to see what one is better. it doesnt make sence.ur comparing spl to sq. its what the persn likes. if the person likes sq than ya go for the jl audio because there not built for sound comps. kicker L7 and solo x's are buikt sound competetion because they get really loud and i know they dont have the greatest sq but still if ur tryin to compare a 13 W7 to a 10" solo x the solo is goin touot pund it easy. i mean think about it a solo x 10" has 2500 rms and W7 ony has like 600. no offense but im a kicker fan because i like spl sq doesnt matter to me. i have 2 10" L7 in my room and only putting a 100 watts into each and they are loud. but in my opinion the 18 solo x will not pund any other single sub in the world besides the MTX JACKHAMMER. but i do like jl audio because they are nice subs and they r loud jus not as loud as kicker solo's
who in the hell would want to listen to music with bass notes that sound like loud and distorded sickness! turn it off. i perfer to listen to my music with sq clean deep bass. the way it was ment to sound and be heard... spl is for people who dont care about what the music sounds like they just want to hear loud noise. by the way who ever sead sq subs and amps aint loud??? it probly seems that way because spl sound like screaming iritating bass when sq is about the same its just that the sq dilivers clean loud clear bass freqz. thats maybe why sq amps & subs are alot more expensive then an spl amp,sub!!!!!!. p.s jl is the best!!! wouldent go no other way
Gentleman I have had two mtx roadthunder 10's on a 200 watt jensen out pound jl w3 12's on a punch2100. now as far as what sub is better i currently run all kicker. I have two solo x tens each being pushed by a 05kx2500.1. I also have 6 one inch boston tweets runnin off a kicker 04sx900.4, 4 boston six and a halfs on another sx900.4 and two jl w3 eights on a kicker kx1500.1. Now if i want sound quality i can astonish most listners. And if i want spl i just turn it up louder! jl's make great products the w7's will rock your socks off! however the kicker solo x does have it all and to a previous writer it will kill you. it only takes 138db's to make your heart skip a beat.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/acoustic+power look it up.a f-16 jet engine is only 130db. i also recomend the car stereo cookbook vol2. its a great book. i'm not takinga shot at you. out of the other writers in this you seem very knowledgable.
in response to willie cameron Username: Thatboy575m
Posted on Sunday, November 13, 2005 - 09:56 pm:
"all you guys are idiots dumb a**es an jl 13w7 is known for its excursion i have a friend with three 13w7 hifonics amp like an 5000 watt amp it makes your hair shake crazy but i have i 15 solo x with the same amp my firend had i broke my window to my house when my car was in the garage imagine if i had three w7 create more air but solo x mor vibration jk you guys arnt idiots but solo x are more powerful than w7 and cheaper"
they don't make a f(_)cking solo x 15, so you are the dumba$$ and you're a liar. read up a little bit before you start trying to lie and look cool
im neutral here but if u gave me a choice i would choose the JL W7 ive heard the 12 and 2 10's it beats really loud and insane sound quality. now i like the Kicker solo X but the problem is i would need some sound quality i cant just run and win spl contest all day i ll need something that i can go and drive around and enjoy music. The w7 is the only woofer that i know about that can have sound quality but then again get very loud.
Ok, first of all I've heard 4 13w7's in a Chrysler 300, I've heard 2 18" solo x's in a tahoe. You can go back n forth all day about it, no ones gonna win because it's all in what the listener likes. I personally know that these are both top of the line subwoofers, however I also know that Treo is the new jl audio. You can put 1 15" SSX up against 2 13w7's and power them perfectly, the treo will win SQ and SPL. Same thing with the 18" Solo X only the X clearly wins in spl. To all of you who say I'm lying, I've seen it, heard it, and felt them go up against each other. I'm not here to take away from either company but I'm just saying, what you pay for 1 13w7, you could get 2 treo ssi's and blow the jl away. The solo X requires so much power, by the time you have the big enough enclosure, the multiple amps, the new windows lol, you could match it in spl and destroy it in SQ with treo's. I'm not a Treo rep. or anything. It's just a proven fact.
At nearly 100 pounds and 10,000 peak watts of pure pounding fury, the mammoth 18-inch SoloX stands alone at the top of the heap. The supersized smackdown can also be had in a 12 and 10, but not without a struggle. And all contain the SPAIR field-replaceable cone/coil assembly.
KICKER's most advanced subwoofers ever, the SoloX has been engineered with serious autosound competitors in mind. The SPL levels can get brutal in the lanes (many interiors have buckled under SoloX pressure), but the SoloX has already earned its sound-quality stripes too, winning IASCA and USACi SQ world championships. That means they sound good... really good.
In its first year, the S18X set the industry on its ears (probably for protection!) with its heavy introduction, and it remains the centerpiece in the KICKER lineup with unimaginable power handling (5,000 watts RMS; 10,000 watts peak) and freakish size.
You say it takes two for the same price as one solo x or jl. well no sh_t! thats why one cost as much as two. Imagine two solo x tens with the right sound controls anyting is possible.
IM SIMPLE...I DONT NEED ANY OF THAT FANCY LOOK LIKE EVERYONE ELSE SH!T.... I HAVE A PIONEER HEADUNIT WITH A 8" MONITOR...2 KICKER 1250 WATTS AMPLIFIERS...1 4500 WATT POWER ACOUSTIK BASS BOOST AND AN 18" SOLO X...THERE REALLY ISNT MUCH MORE I COULD ASK FOR..IM HAPPY WITH WHAT I HAVE...I HAVE A NISSAN ARMADA 4X4 OFFROAD.......THERES NOTHING MORE I COULD ASK FOR...
But it's a lot easier to find a used w7 :P And for the price of a used, hardly anything can compare. Ebay has them all the time...but to find the above mentioned subs on ebay, let alone for a good price would be really hard haha