yea, ive built up a list of some of one of the subwoofers i can afford from some of the good subwoofer companies. what would you buy if u had to listen to one of thse selections for 3 years b4 you could upgrade and why? what would be the best DEAL?
yes. the thing is that the shiva can only wire to 4 or 8 ohms. it will takes a bigger amp to give it the power at 4 ohms. a 4 ohm load is twice as much resistance as a 2 ohm load. so half the power. but if you have two shiva that would wire down to 2 ohms. basically it is harder to utilize the full potential of your amp if it 2 ohm stable and you only have one shiva.
well i guess its what you like. the v max will give you more spl then the type r, the type r will give you more sq then the v max. and to be honest i dont know anything about jl. as for the shiva thing i dont think that that would be a good idea, it would work but the cheap subs performance would make your system not sound as good if it was just 1 shiva with less power. i favor the shiva over all of them even with less power. what amp are you going to be running
the MTX 8500 Thunder 12" are nice, if you have a hhgregg's near you could probably let you listen to the MTX's, Infinity's, and Rockford Fosgate, and the kicker's could probably be heard at an electric express. These is where i heard them.
yea, there's a car toys near me, but doesnt it make a bigg difference in the box size, and where the sub is located? i think the setup they have in stores isnt the same as it would sound in a car... i think. i dunno.
whats spl? (sorry, my mind went blank.) thats the thing, i plan to buy an amp after i buy the sub, that way i dont have to limit my sub options to my amp, but my amp options to the sub... how much would a good amp cost to handle one shiva? two shivas?
spl=sound pressure levels aka how loud it is. im not sure how much an amp would cost to power a shiva. it just needs to be around 300 watts rms at 4 ohms. for two a 600 watt amp at 2 ohms. it wont be too too much. that will be the same amp. if it will put out 300 at 4 it will do 600 at 2
so what ure saying is that... if i buy a good amp for one sub, then when i add another sub to the amp, the resistance will go down... and it will still be the same power output? or will it... wait... im confused.
ok. usually an amp that puts out 300 watts at 4 ohms will put out 600 watts at 2 ohms. so if you get an amp that puts out 300watts rms at 4 ohms and hook your shiva to it it will be good. then if you get another shiva then you can run them both off the same amp at a 2 ohm load and then they will both get 300 watts rms. is that better. as long as the amp you get is at least 600 watts rms at 2 ohms then you should be fine.
i think ill go with that then. thanx man, uve been tons of help. im gonna sleep. didnt get much last night. probably have some more question 2moro tho... c ya. btw, just wonderin, what system do you have?
i have a adire audio brahma 12 with a some ghetto lightning audio comps(im really poor...lol) with a kenwood deck and a blown amp.Im getting a audiobahn a8002t here in a min. i just need and amp to hold me over until i get a new sub. im looking at the RE MT. thats one badass sub. then im going to get 2 orion 1200ds and a boston acoustics comp set. not sure which ones yet.but soon enough. i built a box for the brahma. it barely fits in my trunk. dont laugh at my lightning audio...LOL
damn. lol. well im really poor too, so its all good. how's the brahma? u get good bass from that? i dunno if i can really afford the shiva... but i really want it. lightning audio? is that cheap? does it sound descent? i might stick with that considering i dont have much money. i have like a 500-600 budget. im getting an alpine 927 ($250), pioneer 3way ($56), infinty 2way ($90) really soon. so that only leaves like 200-300 for the sub, sub box, and amp... . lol.
hey tips...if u have a little bit more than 300 left over, go to www.edesignaudio.com, buy their 13ov2 subwoofer and nine.2 amp...they have a package deal on there that is 365 if im not mistaken. damned good products...then just build your box.
ok, one more question... alpine type 12" Type-R Series Subwoofer (4ohm + 4ohm) and its said its gets 500 rms. so does that mean i should look for an amp that has at least 200rms by 4 ohms? or is that 2 little?
too little. see with a sub having 4+4 coils give you the option of wiring it at either 2 or 4 ohms. so if you wanted to give it 500 watts rms then look for an amp that will do 500 watts at two ohms or an amp that will do 500 at 4 ohms, which will be more exspensive, but may be needed if you want to run two subs. does that make sense? basically if you wanted to run a single type r then find an amp that will do 500 watts rms. if you want to run two find an amp that will do 1000 watts rms. sound good?
my brahma is awesome to me. lightning audio is cheap but does the job for now. they sound ok for 4s and 6x9s for 70 bucks all together. well the shiva is 125 and an amp will be like 100 to 150 so you might need about 60 bucks for amp wiring kit, and mdf and the screws and liquid nail and wood glue. for a box if you want to build one.
with the 2+2 you can either wire it to 4 or 1` ohm. the 4+4 you can wire to either 2 ohms or i think 8 ohms(i told you the wrong ohms in the one of the threads above im sorry.). just do this. get the type r 2+2 either way. you can wire to 2 ohms by its self or if you get 2 of them then you can wire them to 4 ohms a piece and hook it up to your amp which will give 2 ohm load on your amp.ok? it is best to run the same impedence sud on the same amp. so i think the 2+2 would be good for you.
yes most amps are not 1 ohm stable, well if you want to run them both off of that same amp then you would have to rewire both of your subs to 4 ohms. that would give you a 2 ohm load on your amp giving you subs 200 watts each. i dont know if you meant three subs or not. i think if you got three you will need a bigger amp. even with 2 you will be underpowering them , but as long as you dont turn up your gains to make up for the underpowerment(if thats even a word) then you will be ok. if you do turn your amps gains up to high your amp will start to clip and ruin both your amp and your subs eventually. does that answer your q.?
really.... so what happens if i connect an alpine type r (2+2) to a amp that has: 75 W x 2 @ 4 Ohms RMS 150 W x 2 @ 2 Ohms RMS 250 W x 2 @ 1 Ohms RMS 300 W x 1 @ 4 Ohms Bridged RMS 500 W x 1 @ 2 Ohms Bridged RMS
one sub will get 500 watts bridged... and two subs will get...?
actually it will only get 300, because the 2+2 can only be wired down to 1 or 4 ohms. unless you made a typo and that is 1 ohm bridged instead of 2. i dont like this amp. wierd numbers at wierd ohms. but you would get150 watts each to two if you had this amp.
it would go...if you wired the 2+2 to 4 ohms and the4+4 to 2 ohms that would give you 3 ohms. if you wired the 2+2 to 1 ohm and the 4+4 to 2 ohms that would be around 1.5 if you went the 2+2 to 4 and the 4+4 to 8 then it would be a 6 ohm load. the rms output would be different because of the higher or lower impedence. if it was 3 ohms it would be 375x1 and 6 ohms would put out a lot lower of watts then at 4 ohms about 225x1. it is better to run the same impedence of subs across the amp though.