Glass, why did you pick X.X.X. and not other subs?

 

Silver Member
Username: Oleg

Santa Monica, CA USA

Post Number: 220
Registered: Nov-04
First thing comes to mind is why didn't you get the Brahmas? I saw that video on the adire site with Brahma having crazy excursion. X.X.X. has 3mm more, so it can do the same i take it? I think you were also talking about the H2's and ID MAX? How do they stack up to your liking? It's hard to find any of these subs to listen to, so i just want your opinion.
 

Gold Member
Username: Glasswolf

NorthWest, Michigan USA

Post Number: 6795
Registered: Dec-03
I looked at several subs.
Eclipse Ti
Image Dynamics ID Max
Orion H2
Adire Brahma
JL Audio 13W7
RE triple X.

I went with the RE subs for a few reasons..
at the time, hardly anybody knew about or used RE subs. The price was great compared to some of the others. the specs met my needs. RE has good support.
mostly I wanted something a bit different and I wanted to try out the RE subs in an AP enclosure.
The Brahma has a bit less Xmax, it's a bit less expensive, but all in all lit's a pretty equal sub to the RE. That was really just personal preference.
Also, I had the amplifiers I planned to use anyway, so the triple X fit the bill almost ideally, having standard dual 2 ohm coils and RMS power handling to 1600wRMS.
I had 1280 watts @ 4 ohms per sub to give, so I needed subs that could really use the juice.
 

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Username: Erik123456

Arlington, Tx

Post Number: 251
Registered: Aug-04
in your research how would you rate those subs you listed (just purely your opinion)

I just bought another titanium 12 and I have been dying to know why you didnt pick them
 

Silver Member
Username: Oleg

Santa Monica, CA USA

Post Number: 225
Registered: Nov-04
How much are X.X.X?
 

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Username: Erik123456

Arlington, Tx

Post Number: 252
Registered: Aug-04
12 = $369 im fairly sure
 

Silver Member
Username: Oleg

Santa Monica, CA USA

Post Number: 226
Registered: Nov-04
that's directly from RE? Brahma 12" is $479 from adire...that's not what Glass said.
 

Silver Member
Username: Erik123456

Arlington, Tx

Post Number: 253
Registered: Aug-04
369 from RE im almost positve
 

Silver Member
Username: Oleg

Santa Monica, CA USA

Post Number: 227
Registered: Nov-04
you're right, $405 shipped. So brahma is more then.
 

Gold Member
Username: Glasswolf

NorthWest, Michigan USA

Post Number: 6823
Registered: Dec-03
hmm. thought the 12" brahma was a bit lower than that. last I looked I'd thought they were both within about $30 of each other.
anyway yeah the RE is $369

I was very tempted to get the Eclipse subs actually, but between the price, and the recommended enclosure specs, the RE just fit what I was after a little more.
both are excellent subs though. I wouldn't complain if I had a couple Ti subs either.
 

Silver Member
Username: Oleg

Santa Monica, CA USA

Post Number: 230
Registered: Nov-04
Cool. Yeah, looks like Brahma is $110 more for the 12"!!! In your opinion, is it worth that money over the X.X.X?
 

Bronze Member
Username: James1115

Ct

Post Number: 65
Registered: Dec-04
hey glass whats a better sub the eclipse TI or the memphis top of the line in a 15?
 

Bronze Member
Username: Dnizzle

Raleigh, NC USA

Post Number: 36
Registered: Nov-04
um he picked the x.x.x over the brahma...
 

Silver Member
Username: Erik123456

Arlington, Tx

Post Number: 258
Registered: Aug-04
eclipse is way better than memphis
 

Gold Member
Username: Glasswolf

NorthWest, Michigan USA

Post Number: 6836
Registered: Dec-03
better than an eclipse Ti.. hmmm a Ti Pro? heh
really the eclipse is a top notch sub. if you're after both SQ and SPL that's one of my top picks.

the brahma and triple X both have the XBR^2 motor structure, but the rest of the sub designs differ.
essentially they are like sister subs, with the brahma aimed a bit more at SQ and the RE more toward SPL with a bit longer throw.
 

Silver Member
Username: Oleg

Santa Monica, CA USA

Post Number: 231
Registered: Nov-04
So the TI Pro has more excursion and can handle more power than X.X.X. or Brahma. It can cost as much as a grand! Worth it paying that much over brahma and X.X.X?

Has anyone seen a pic of that mystery RE sub? I think I saw it and it looks like the MTX 9500. I wonder if it'll have more excursion and will be able to handle more power :-)
But yeah, Ti Pro worth it?
 

Gold Member
Username: Glasswolf

NorthWest, Michigan USA

Post Number: 6866
Registered: Dec-03
ehh 'worth it' is always subjective.
that's entirely between you and your wallet.
it is a great sub if you really think you need that much SPL out of a system while maintaining good SQ.
honestly two normal Ti subs would put out more SPL than you'd want to sit in a car with though.
also consider the ability to power the subs, and to power the amps that drive those subs.
that's the sort of cost most people forget to factor in when they start dreaming really big.

they think ok, a grand each for subs, maybe $500 for each amp..
then they forget to think another $500 for an alternator plus install labor, cost of the enclosure for the subs, 0ga cable for the amps at $3 per foot, some deep cycle batteries at $150 each, a battery isolator for a couple hundred more, etc etc...
then they look at the total cost and start to reconsider just how badly they really need a system that's so loud they can't sit in the car without causing pain or permanent damage to their hearing.
 

Silver Member
Username: Oleg

Santa Monica, CA USA

Post Number: 234
Registered: Nov-04
I understand all you've said. Thanks
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