my friend has a pair of MT 12's and man let me tell ya...they r pretty serious..he's knocked the door handles out of his car so he got them shaved then his roof was flexing so much from the sound pressure that it started to crack...and that was just with a 1000 watts to them each cuz he had his other 2 amps getting "suped up"i guess u can say..but they r really loud and painful..look at getting a pair of X.XX i have 3 of them and they have great great sq and if u want to impress your friends and people a mile down the road u can with it's incredible spl..they hit very very hard..