Pure spl sub whats the best
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Bronze Member Username: Talon01York, Pa Usa Post Number: 45 Registered: Jun-07 | i was thinking dd9512 but im only going to have 1500rms for it ant thoughts |
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Gold Member Username: DrivingrecklessDD 9515f, 148.2 db Mov... Post Number: 4007 Registered: Apr-06 | Pure spl- Shocker Neo-sig or sig T3 TSNS |
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Gold Member Username: DrivingrecklessDD 9515f, 148.2 db Mov... Post Number: 4008 Registered: Apr-06 | also a dd 9918 or 99z |
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Gold Member Username: Snarl2004Audioque 12 SD2.5s, Earthquake P... Post Number: 1596 Registered: Dec-06 | you need alot more power then 1500rms for 9512, 9912 and DD z series |
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Gold Member Username: CenusHicksville, Ohio Post Number: 3431 Registered: Jan-05 | damnn dave you seem to really like shocker subs, just wondering have you ever heared a shocker sig? anyway theres a shocker sub on ebay right now last time i checked it was only up to $50. |
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Gold Member Username: DrivingrecklessDD 9515f, 148.2 db Mov... Post Number: 4010 Registered: Apr-06 | "just wondering have you ever heared a shocker sig?"  |
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Bronze Member Username: Talon01York, Pa Usa Post Number: 46 Registered: Jun-07 | i cant find the shocker sub id like to see it also i am in stock 1 class so no bigger than a 12 |
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Gold Member Username: InsearchofbassPost Number: 6208 Registered: Jun-04 | its a 15 scott i found it |
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Gold Member Username: InsearchofbassPost Number: 6209 Registered: Jun-04 | bump |
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Gold Member Username: Snarl2004Audioque 12 SD2.5s, Earthquake P... Post Number: 1601 Registered: Dec-06 | mabey a Fi.BL? |
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Gold Member Username: InsearchofbassPost Number: 6211 Registered: Jun-04 | a sealed sub might be a good idea bro.... but I saw one of those subs mentioned has a problem with tinsel slap |
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Gold Member Username: BasssquaredKansas Post Number: 1204 Registered: Nov-06 | Kicker L7 |
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Gold Member Username: InsearchofbassPost Number: 6212 Registered: Jun-04 | unless you dont plan on staying in rookie division |
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Gold Member Username: InsearchofbassPost Number: 6213 Registered: Jun-04 | LOL kicker l7 |
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Bronze Member Username: Bumpin_buickAppleton, Wisconsin USA Post Number: 29 Registered: Apr-07 | TREO CSX |
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Gold Member Username: BasssquaredKansas Post Number: 1206 Registered: Nov-06 | if you just want a straight up SPL sub on around 1000 watts a kicker L7 is no Joke if your not a nub and now your stuff they can get really loud its nothing to lol at |
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Gold Member Username: InsearchofbassPost Number: 6221 Registered: Jun-04 | I laughed because I dont trust their build qualiy |
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Gold Member Username: JkidderIA, DP RD Post Number: 1700 Registered: Nov-05 | ""just wondering have you ever heared a shocker sig?" :-)" muhhahahahahaha |
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Gold Member Username: InsearchofbassPost Number: 6222 Registered: Jun-04 | should read quality |
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Gold Member Username: CenusHicksville, Ohio Post Number: 3434 Registered: Jan-05 | why does every1 put smileys, does that mean you have heared one or not? |
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Gold Member Username: BasssquaredKansas Post Number: 1207 Registered: Nov-06 | you ever had one Sean your just going on word of mouth i personally have 2 L7s and haven't had any problems with them but to each his own |
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Gold Member Username: InsearchofbassPost Number: 6223 Registered: Jun-04 | ive been to nationals and seen an l7 12 blown plus were not going to be using this daily were using it for spl so were going to push it....and the corners arent good for that on the l7...they rip apart |
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Gold Member Username: InsearchofbassPost Number: 6224 Registered: Jun-04 | just dont want to spend on a sub that has a good chance of blowing ...it would be like throwing money away to me if it did and I knew better |
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Gold Member Username: BasssquaredKansas Post Number: 1208 Registered: Nov-06 | how so if it has warranty? and even if their build quality subs dont just blow for no reason at all |
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Gold Member Username: InsearchofbassPost Number: 6225 Registered: Jun-04 | they dont warranty abusive use....and it will be used for just spl in a burp box on 1500 rms....the design flaw is the corners and no gettting around that either |
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Gold Member Username: 420alldaylongPost Number: 2514 Registered: Sep-06 | Kicker Solo Baric L7 12" or 15" and if you do so searching you can find good deals. |
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Gold Member Username: Trey4sportsPost Number: 1657 Registered: Sep-06 | sean has a point. the sub in itself has a fundamental design flaw. the square corners create uneven pressure. L7's have a bad rep for blowing. i imagine if he threw a solid 750 and had all settings properly it would be very very loud for that power. L7's are pretty nice budget spl subs if u dont abuse them |
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Gold Member Username: CenusHicksville, Ohio Post Number: 3436 Registered: Jan-05 | L7's are nice budget spl subs but imo they sound like sh1t have reliabilty issues, another sub you could look at would be a mmats juggernaught, it uses the DD 95 b motor so you know it gets loud. |
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Silver Member Username: YukhuiMyrtle Beach, South Carolina USA Post Number: 612 Registered: Jan-06 | 1500 watts is the RMS for my havoc $300 shipped |
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Gold Member Username: DrivingrecklessDD 9515f, 148.2 db Mov... Post Number: 4018 Registered: Apr-06 | "why does every1 put smileys, does that mean you have heared one or not?" of course ive herd one b!tch i own one!!! |
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Gold Member Username: Th3pwn3rPost Number:... Post Number: 4364 Registered: Jul-06 | Let's not forget about Atomic's APXX. |
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Gold Member Username: CenusHicksville, Ohio Post Number: 3440 Registered: Jan-05 | fvckk you dave don't be gettin lippy with me. ohh if you own one post some pics b1otch. |
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Gold Member Username: DrivingrecklessDD 9515f, 148.2 db Mov... Post Number: 4025 Registered: Apr-06 | Im at work right now.... But later today and if not tommorrow ill have pics up for you... and i give lip to any B!TCH that asks for it |
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Gold Member Username: Th3pwn3rPost Number:... Post Number: 4366 Registered: Jul-06 | "and i give lip to any B!TCH that asks for it " It doesn't matter if they're male or female,David loves giving his lip regardless. |
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Gold Member Username: DrivingrecklessDD 9515f, 148.2 db Mov... Post Number: 4027 Registered: Apr-06 | Rob is no stranger to it either he asks for it more then anyone else ive known.... f\/ckup |
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Gold Member Username: ShowridesHartford, CT USA Post Number: 1054 Registered: Feb-06 | These best sub threads make me laugh. Getting 20 different answers should be proof that there is no absolute best. It is all application dependent, and still would be VERY hard to decide. But with 1500rms, there aren't many pure high end SPL subs that will reach their full potential off of that. You will want something that is semi-efficient for sure. |
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Silver Member Username: ZacdavisBeloit, Wi Post Number: 625 Registered: Dec-03 | I disagree, the question was straight forward with one objective, flat out, SPL That woofer would be the Z series from DD. For SPL, this woofer is the best in production to date. No guesses, no maybes, hands down, nothing touches it right now. Why?, it's MS/MF and linear excursion. Fact is it has a driving force that exceeds all other woofers while displacing air. An argument may arise, "well how can a weak little 10" woofer do 180 in port wars?" Well its relative to the overall area being compressed. That 10" created 180db in a tiny speaker box, not a huge cabin of a vehicle. "Cone area and excursion", although a huge factor, lets forget about this for just a second and think about the actual force it takes to pressurize an area. The larger the area, the more force needed, right?, k lets go with this... Now!consider the force that drives the cone, Lets say we find a single large woofer that will displace exactly the same amount of air as a number of smaller woofers. Now, you would think they would be capable of producing comparable SPL, right? Maybe, maybe not...you must factor in motor strength, although that huge woofer can move the same amount air as the little woofers, it may not have as much motor strength as the others collectively. One large magnet versus 6 smaller ones...anywho you see the point here... there isnt a woofer in production that comes close the DD's Z motor, not to mention its coupled with a moving assembly that is in a league of its own. The composite material and technique used for their woofer's cone was developed by NASA and to date this material has the HIGHEST STRENGTH TO WEIGHT RATIO known to man. Formula 1 has been using this material for their chassis and parts for years. So crucial to SPL, the moving assembly, why not use a material that is the most rigid, And the lightest!? Imagine your arm being the magnet of a speaker, your fist being the voice coil. Now swing your arm forward and back as fast as you can. Now pick up a 10 pound dumb bell and try it again, much harder to isnt it. This is the problem many manufactures face when trying to strengthen their cone's. While rigidity is important, weight cannot be ignored. Hence my saying DD has thee best cone available on the market....as for the motor?, no woofer company i know of has anything comparable to their neo technology. Look at specs that matter, not just the thermal capabilities and excursion. |
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Gold Member Username: DrivingrecklessDD 9515f, 148.2 db Mov... Post Number: 4035 Registered: Apr-06 | how about the neo-sig??? how does that compare |
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Bronze Member Username: JnoelAIM= j69noel, KY Post Number: 84 Registered: May-07 | dd 9918 |
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Gold Member Username: InsearchofbassPost Number: 6231 Registered: Jun-04 | he needs a 12 |
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Gold Member Username: CtmikeCt. Post Number: 5010 Registered: Feb-06 | ia dp 12. get it now while on preorder. |
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Gold Member Username: InsearchofbassPost Number: 6233 Registered: Jun-04 | whats a dp 12? |
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Gold Member Username: CtmikeCt. Post Number: 5011 Registered: Feb-06 | http://www.incriminatoraudio.com/dp.htm |
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Gold Member Username: CenusHicksville, Ohio Post Number: 3442 Registered: Jan-05 | nicely said zac, but to get all that out of a dd z you'll need atleast 10krms, i would also like to know how the neo-sig compares, granted it doesn't have the cone DD does but theres no denying that it has a crazy motor. |
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Gold Member Username: DrivingrecklessDD 9515f, 148.2 db Mov... Post Number: 4038 Registered: Apr-06 | wallsocket forever annd not blow!!! maybe its as insane as the z??? |
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Gold Member Username: Trey4sportsPost Number: 1665 Registered: Sep-06 | sean, i love the info you gave on the Z. excellent. however, he did say he only had 1500 watts and with that im guessing he also is just thinking SPL is "loud" not necessarily differentiating between 30 hz and 60 hz. my gut instinct tells me hes looking for a street beat sub. Im gonna Reccomend: RD alpha Fi BL atomic ELE ( seems like this woofer has dropped off the earth but its still one HELL of a sub ) |
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Gold Member Username: ShowridesHartford, CT USA Post Number: 1056 Registered: Feb-06 | Zac, altough a very informative post I would have to disagree. You neglected to consider that he only has 1500rms to work with. You can try to argue that sub will have more output than any other sub, but with 1500rms efficiency is going to play a key role. I a not saying your suggestion is wrong, but I am saying there is a good chance the Z series from DD won't have the most output with only 1500rms. But I have to say, the Z series is a beastly sub for sure. It would deff. be a top contender here. |
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Gold Member Username: CenusHicksville, Ohio Post Number: 3443 Registered: Jan-05 | trey there are a lot of subs that would compare to the fi and rd subs you mentioned but no one evers talks about them on this forum, it seems to me that if it isn't made by RD fi DD or sundown that no one cares to mention them. |
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Gold Member Username: CtmikeCt. Post Number: 5013 Registered: Feb-06 | i still say go with my recommendation and order a 12" ia death penalty. |
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Gold Member Username: InsearchofbassPost Number: 6240 Registered: Jun-04 | Trey AKA thug money ...."sean, i love the info you gave on the Z. excellent. however, he did say he only had 1500 watts and with that im guessing he also is just thinking SPL is "loud" not necessarily differentiating between 30 hz and 60 hz. my gut instinct tells me hes looking for a street beat sub. Im gonna Reccomend: RD alpha Fi BL atomic ELE ( seems like this woofer has dropped off the earth but its still one HELL of a sub )" That was Zac that posted that |
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Gold Member Username: CenusHicksville, Ohio Post Number: 3448 Registered: Jan-05 | where you at dave im waiting for some pics b1otch, but you might also wanna look into an eclipse ti, it uses a tc 3hp motor, any1 remeber subfantic LOL he had a 15 and was doing close to 150 in a neon. |
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Gold Member Username: InsearchofbassPost Number: 6242 Registered: Jun-04 | thats one were considering but its a 12 he needs a 12 |
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Gold Member Username: Skibum12189Cleveland Post Number: 1476 Registered: Mar-06 | good luck finding any atomic products in the western hemisphere |
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Gold Member Username: Trey4sportsPost Number: 1671 Registered: Sep-06 | lol, dustin i DID reccommend an Atomic ELE too  yeah my fault sean. it was zack who posted that. either way it was an awesome post |
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Gold Member Username: Trey4sportsPost Number: 1672 Registered: Sep-06 | cal, atomic is not hard to come by. contact headshok on ROE and i also believe jimmy (splchoice) is an atomic dealer as well |
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Gold Member Username: CenusHicksville, Ohio Post Number: 3449 Registered: Jan-05 | well sean get a 12 im sure in a good box with 1500wrms it could put up a mid 140 score easy, and trey yes you did rec. atomic i'll give you props for that. |
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Gold Member Username: InsearchofbassPost Number: 6246 Registered: Jun-04 | well were doin 142.5 db with the audioque 2.5 12 on 600 rms so id hope for a little more than mid 140 since double the power gives you 3 db and it would be a better built sub |
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Gold Member Username: CenusHicksville, Ohio Post Number: 3451 Registered: Jan-05 | well i was just saying mid 140 for reference, but im sure with your box building skills sean anything is possible. |
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Silver Member Username: ZacdavisBeloit, Wi Post Number: 626 Registered: Dec-03 | whoooooops lol, you guys are right, I was wrong, I missed the part about the 1500rms. I thought he was asking what's the baddest SPL sub.... |
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Gold Member Username: InsearchofbassPost Number: 6247 Registered: Jun-04 | its ok zac alot of people are missing that he needs a single 12 for stock 1 class |
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Gold Member Username: InsearchofbassPost Number: 6248 Registered: Jun-04 | im not sure if he would consider two 10's |
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Gold Member Username: CenusHicksville, Ohio Post Number: 3462 Registered: Jan-05 | dave you little pen1s leech, where the fvckk are the pics, i see you posting on other threads. |
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Gold Member Username: DrivingrecklessDD 9515f, 148.2 db Mov... Post Number: 4041 Registered: Apr-06 | LOL my camera is dead..ill get em soon quit s\/cking me pen!s and let it rest |
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Bronze Member Username: Patrick_ortizSan antonio, Tx Usa Post Number: 24 Registered: Aug-07 | u might laugh at a l7 but they arent that bad i have a solo x and its not bad either |
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Gold Member Username: CenusHicksville, Ohio Post Number: 3463 Registered: Jan-05 | sure dave your probally just making it up that you own a sig. |
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Gold Member Username: DrivingrecklessDD 9515f, 148.2 db Mov... Post Number: 4042 Registered: Apr-06 | okay b!tch you caught me i dont have it in my possession but i did buy one and im waiting for the guy to build it... he sed it was gunna be done on thursday and then he sed he couldnt and today he sed he didnt have time to build it...its really pissing me off.. i did buy one i have herd one... |
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Gold Member Username: CenusHicksville, Ohio Post Number: 3464 Registered: Jan-05 | ok dave if you say so its your story so tell it how you want, and who did you get to build it for you? and is just a sig motor with some other brand soft parts or is it an acutal sig? and if its an acutal sig what version is it? there are 3 different ones with slight varaitions. |
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Gold Member Username: DrivingrecklessDD 9515f, 148.2 db Mov... Post Number: 4043 Registered: Apr-06 | its an original sig motor, with a sig voice coil but not cone and dustcap....youll see the pics im pickin it up today |
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Gold Member Username: Th3pwn3rPost Number:... Post Number: 4372 Registered: Jul-06 | Update on the Shocker David?No...I'm not talking about "The Shocker(2 in the pink 1 in the stink)" I'm talking about your sub. |
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Gold Member Username: CenusHicksville, Ohio Post Number: 3482 Registered: Jan-05 | rob what are you talking about everyone knows dave likes all 4 in the stink. |
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Gold Member Username: Th3pwn3rPost Number:... Post Number: 4375 Registered: Jul-06 | That's the "Showstopper" I've yet to find a nasty enough girl to let me pull that one off.I don't think I'd want to do that either  |
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Silver Member Username: TornPost Number: 158 Registered: Jan-07 | this is best http://cgi.ebay.com/900-Watt-New-15-in-Sub-Acoustic-Audio-BASS-Subwoofer-NR_W0QQitemZ110163179422QQihZ001QQcategoryZ18804QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem  |
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Gold Member Username: 420alldaylongPost Number: 2545 Registered: Sep-06 | What is the website for shocker sig? |
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Gold Member Username: CenusHicksville, Ohio Post Number: 3488 Registered: Jan-05 | "What is the website for shocker sig" hahah you obvislouly have no clue what a shocker sig is if you ask that question, they don't have a website anymore, sh1t they haven't had one for like 3-4years that i know of, the only place you can get them is a car audio shop from ohio which just happens to be like 15mins from my house, LOL they have a account on ebay if you want a shocker sub email them and there build it for ya. |
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Gold Member Username: Skibum12189Cleveland Post Number: 1491 Registered: Mar-06 | kicker L7s in a correctly sized box and an amp that has the GAIN get ***king loud kid around here had 2 L5s (yes sh!tty) but damn i could here that kid from like 5 blocks away |
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Gold Member Username: WingmanaliveA pic is worth 1000 posts!! Post Number: 9592 Registered: Jun-06 | Yes but wouldn't you want that sub to sound loud and last? With the current trend of SQ this board is slowly turning towards I would like to see all and any square subs abolished. Just my $.02 |
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