New member Username: Lyon145Aurelia, IA Usa Post Number: 3 Registered: Mar-05 | i have an unlimited budget and i want the loudest you can have, i just don't know what to get can anyone help me out. |
Gold Member Username: JmloughreyFarmington, CT Post Number: 1021 Registered: Jul-04 | no possible way to answer that question... |
Gold Member Username: HdubbFarmington, Nm Usa Post Number: 1184 Registered: Nov-04 | digital designs 9917. or atomic apocolypse. hard to answer. adire parthenon |
Gold Member Username: JmloughreyFarmington, CT Post Number: 1023 Registered: Jul-04 | anything made by boss....feed its 2000 watts...thing will be loud as heck....when it completly implods....yes i said implod |
Gold Member Username: HdubbFarmington, Nm Usa Post Number: 1186 Registered: Nov-04 | lol. i love boss. its up there with dhd, and rockwood. best stuff ever made |
dat dude Unregistered guest | home or car audio i dunno the JL gotham is a beast |
Gold Member Username: SubfanaticWalton, Ky Post Number: 1249 Registered: Dec-04 | josh the loudest sub on earth would most def have to be the 34 inch audiobahn cough...god i feel sick |
Bronze Member Username: Dpaw20FL USA Post Number: 13 Registered: Mar-05 | No, its going to be the Prototype. Wait for that. |
Gold Member Username: SubfanaticWalton, Ky Post Number: 1251 Registered: Dec-04 | haha...i wont be the prototype lol,well i doubt it would be |
Gold Member Username: Taylor17Kopperl, Texas Post Number: 1103 Registered: Jan-05 | Google it and see what some of the world record holders wher running. |
Silver Member Username: Nnnnick_bNc Usa Post Number: 292 Registered: Jan-05 | Adire Parthenon, 173mm one way xmax i believe(XX.X is ONLY 32mm). Buy that and build a custom frame and cone/suspension. |
New member Username: BigdanmanThe OC, CA USA Post Number: 7 Registered: Mar-05 | http://realmofexcursion.com/videos/Resonant%20Engineering/prototype12.1.wmv RE Prototype looks pretty good to me... |
Gold Member Username: HdubbFarmington, Nm Usa Post Number: 1196 Registered: Nov-04 | if the prototype came in an 18 then maybe |
Silver Member Username: Zacdavis~Post Number: 478 Registered: Sep-04 | not even close guys, its the mtx jackhammer. |
Gold Member Username: SubfanaticWalton, Ky Post Number: 1284 Registered: Dec-04 | nope i doubt its that either |
Bronze Member Username: JlojkoPost Number: 25 Registered: Jul-04 | if u have an unlimited budget hire a bunch of scientists and engineers to build the greatest sub ever. Or just go to a major sub company and talk to them about a completely custom driver...if ur too lazy to try that call tc they make custom drivers |
Silver Member Username: Addicted2bassMiami, FLORIDA USA Post Number: 302 Registered: Nov-04 | yeh but u need 2 buy 50 units in order to get it special made |
Bronze Member Username: JlojkoPost Number: 27 Registered: Jul-04 | so then the first idea. hell if u got the money start another company like JL and give me sh*t fo free |
Gold Member Username: SubfanaticWalton, Ky Post Number: 1329 Registered: Dec-04 | do you really have to but 50 of them...how much would that cost |
Silver Member Username: Addicted2bassMiami, FLORIDA USA Post Number: 303 Registered: Nov-04 | lmao |
Gold Member Username: SubfanaticWalton, Ky Post Number: 1333 Registered: Dec-04 | lets do a group buy on here |
Bronze Member Username: GeekbikePost Number: 79 Registered: Dec-04 | What about that 60" MTX that imploded the bread truck it was housed in? |
Gold Member Username: SubfanaticWalton, Ky Post Number: 1337 Registered: Dec-04 | what are you talking about |
Bronze Member Username: ZacdavisBeloit, Wi Post Number: 41 Registered: Dec-03 | Strength to Moving Mass/Area ratio is highest with the MTX Jackhammer. Wether you think it's the loudest or not, it has the capability of creating sound pressure levels higher than any other conventional sub. Now as far as amplitude, which is relative to spl, there are a few other low production woofers that have been assembled that can deliver more amplitude than a jackhammer. Think of it like this: Lets start out by comparing two types of woofers, woofers A and C, by horsepower. Now... sub A 100 horse sub C 25 horse (also note both have equal cone area) You would think that four C subs could create as much sound pressure level as only one A sub. This isnt always the case. Lets do an experiment with sub A and C so this can be better understood. We'll start out with two 6" pvc pipes with a diameter the same as the woofer's voice coils. Each pipe will be afixed to the top of the woofer where the cone and voice coil meet. Next we will be connecting the maximim positive DC voltage each woofer can handle. What we are looking for and measuring here is the amount of physical weight each woofer can lift. In this experiment we wont be comparing suspension ratios or anything like that, just raw "horsepower". Now that we've determained sub A can lift 100 lbs and sub C can lift 25 pounds we have come up with a new way of measuring the subs strength. So with this in mind lets get back to comparing these two subs in a real life atmosphere. Lets say sub A created a maximum 160 decibals of spl. You would tend to think that four of the C subs could do 160 as well however this isnt possible for this reason. Sound pressure level does not even out or distribute it's force to each idividual woofer, the pressure level will be equal on all four woofers in turn limiting the spl to the woofers "horsepower". So, no matter how many subs you pack in the car you are still limited to it's individual strength. Now back to the MTX Jackhammer, the one that weighs 320 lbs, 22", and has tons of power handling, yeah, I think this sub will crush anything else out there. But then again, this is only my opinion (btw, this "experiment" of course is not an accurate way of testing, What I intended however is to give a visual image and understanding of how important motor strength is in spl regardless of xmax and all the other variables) |
Gold Member Username: SubfanaticWalton, Ky Post Number: 1345 Registered: Dec-04 | Strength to Moving Mass/Area ratio is highest with the MTX Jackhammer how do you know this, and when you add more subs to a system..its only like a 3-4 db increase as in doubling power as well....but if this sub is soo ungodly, how come not so many people use it in competitions, how come i cant find it for sale. if its just that great, why isnt everyone out there with ubers of money trying to get ahold of this sub |
Dat dude Unregistered guest | who care about the one loudest sub it's about quantity if all you want is it to be ridiculously loud |
Silver Member Username: Zacdavis~Post Number: 480 Registered: Sep-04 | This sub was just introduced a few months ago at the CES show, and believe me, there will be plenty of first place trophies with this woofer. http://www.mtx.com/caraudio/news/newsTemplate.cfm?ID=1264 |
Silver Member Username: Zacdavis~Post Number: 481 Registered: Sep-04 | dat dude, re-read my previous post, quanity doesnt mean jack squat when it comes to "ridiculously loud", the size of the woofers balls mean the most in spl. |
Gold Member Username: SubfanaticWalton, Ky Post Number: 1350 Registered: Dec-04 | what kind of motor is it running? what makes it stand out besides its 900 oz magnet and its 22 inches and 330 pounds...please tell me how it stands out, |
Bronze Member Username: JlojkoPost Number: 35 Registered: Jul-04 | CES shows are bangin.....im actually at one right now in vegas |
Gold Member Username: SubfanaticWalton, Ky Post Number: 1355 Registered: Dec-04 | actually there isnt really a single thing that means the most in spl, i would say the air its the motor strength. but dat dude. lol...get out of this convo if your not going to know what your saying lol |
Bronze Member Username: ZacdavisBeloit, Wi Post Number: 42 Registered: Dec-03 | Remember most all manufactures stats include the top plate, back plate, and the yolk in thier magnet weight. Where as MTX isnt giving you the motor assembly weight of 900oz, no, thats just the magnet itself at 900oz, which I might add is the largest magnet on a woofer ever. I've spoken with MTX a few times about this woofer, even before its unveiling at CES, what really gives you a sense of its size is knowing that there wasnt a charging table large enough for the magnets they designed for this woofer. So, they had to custom order what is now the largest charging table in the world at over a quarter million dollars just in order to charge the magnets on this beast. And the rating of 5000rms, that means wrms, not burping power. A 50,000watt burp is more like it. |
Dat dude Unregistered guest | zac i understand wat your saying but for instance take 15 18in solo xs you think one sub can hit hard then 15 http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/ptech/07/02/popsci.stereo.kill/index.html by the way wats that jackhammer hitting |
Silver Member Username: Zacdavis~Post Number: 483 Registered: Sep-04 | manufacturers |
Gold Member Username: SubfanaticWalton, Ky Post Number: 1357 Registered: Dec-04 | dat dude...ok yea adding 15 subs would add a ton no matter what, but if you took 4 sony p5 15's and stacke dit up to a 15 inch Mt, the mt would eat them alice, but adding UBERS of solox's which i doubt you could properly power, properly box, run correctly it wouldnt do that great |
Gold Member Username: SubfanaticWalton, Ky Post Number: 1358 Registered: Dec-04 | zac, i see what your saying, but i still dont understand how this is the BSET EvER, what about cutom woofers and so on and so forth for example those german scientists who hit 177 with like 2 subs i thinjk..i dont remember, but what do you mean by charging table? |
Bronze Member Username: JlojkoPost Number: 36 Registered: Jul-04 | CES shows are bangin.....im actually at one right now in vegas |
Bronze Member Username: JlojkoPost Number: 37 Registered: Jul-04 | damnit idk how that worked but i posted twice like 5 posts later |
Dat dude Unregistered guest | ummmm i know wat im talkin about i understand wat u guys are saying too but i still exit the convo cuz i see ur runnin this sub forum |
Gold Member Username: SubfanaticWalton, Ky Post Number: 1363 Registered: Dec-04 | sorry i did not mean to be mean...i spologize dat dude, just in a bad mood today damn ex lol, she shall pay...any good plans lol |
Gold Member Username: HdubbFarmington, Nm Usa Post Number: 1205 Registered: Nov-04 | you would have to make a tank of a box to hold the jackhammer, not to mention the size of it. if you have the money, then space is the problem, he would just be able to afford the sub, and not a 3000+ dollar amp setup |
Silver Member Username: Rob315Cuse, NY U.S. Post Number: 377 Registered: Jan-05 | dat dude...how many times are you going to post that CNN link????d*mn ive seen it in like 4 different posts. |
ThatGuyYouKnow Unregistered guest | HiFonics has made the 10,000wRMS XX Maxximus Mono-Block Ultra D-Class Design 4-Ohm Power Rating 2x5000 2-Ohm Power Rating 1x10000/10kW hes just needs 13 of those to match his 130,000 van, but man he'll need like what double 0 GA wire? but anyway, I dont see the point of making loud noise to just beat the guy next to you, but hey if you want to hear a system over a jet or spaceshuttle... neat yes but nothing you can enjoy. |
Gold Member Username: SubfanaticWalton, Ky Post Number: 1467 Registered: Dec-04 | how much is that amp giong to cost? |
Bronze Member Username: GeekbikePost Number: 82 Registered: Dec-04 | Loudest sub: http://img6.exs.cx/img6/9941/groerbass.jpg The 60" MTX. It hit somewhere around 160db @ 20hz before it imploded the truck. |
Silver Member Username: Rds11Louisville, Kentucky Post Number: 126 Registered: Nov-04 | Dude, how can you all forget about great brands like Pyle and Pyramid LOL jk, the loudest sub would probably make you go deaf in the first hour of listening anyway, not really, but eventually it would. |
Gold Member Username: SubfanaticWalton, Ky Post Number: 1495 Registered: Dec-04 | imploded? i must see a video for this, and did mtx build it, or did that dude sitting there just get bored with money |
Silver Member Username: Addicted2bassMiami, FLORIDA USA Post Number: 353 Registered: Nov-04 | he had to get bored with money, Who the he!! would would do something like that. I know i would. lol |
Gold Member Username: SubfanaticWalton, Ky Post Number: 1501 Registered: Dec-04 | lol yea bass, lets do it lol, i couldnt imagine, i mean seriously, thats like an ant standing the box of an MT or X.x.x or somen lol, imagine having a box big enough for you to get into and sitting in there while the music is playgin |
Silver Member Username: Addicted2bassMiami, FLORIDA USA Post Number: 361 Registered: Nov-04 | yeh and have it ported with a sub like that and the air from the sub is sitting there tossing you around back in froward. That would be fun |
Gold Member Username: SubfanaticWalton, Ky Post Number: 1511 Registered: Dec-04 | way tooo intense |