Clamp meter?

 

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Username: Snarl2004

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Can a clamp meter tell you how many rms your amp is putting out?
 

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Username: Johnfiac

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need a dmm to...
 

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with both of these you can find out how much power your pulling and how much you get back in return; test incoming and outgoing power :-) effientcy FTW
 

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Username: Snarl2004

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so how exactly do you do it?
 

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Username: Southernrebel

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You test both AC current and AC voltage coming from the amp at a given freq.

Voltage x Amps = Watts

You will need True RMS DMM's and Clamps.
 

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Username: Snarl2004

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1)you do current with the clamp meter and voltage with a dmm correct?

2)do you do it with th sub still plugged into the amp?

3)any test tone or a particular one?

4)does the current you get = the amps?
 

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Username: Southernrebel

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1-yes

2-no, you have to have the sub hooked up.

3-I usually use the freq I peak at for SPL.

4-yes
 

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Username: Nd4spd18

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You can't, CAN NOT, as in NOT possible, to measure amplifier output without

1) Oscilloscope
2) Very high current resistors
3) DMM




You can not do it without a scope. You can not use speakers in place of the resistors. Now, if you want to measure amplifier efficiency, then you need a clamp meter capable of measuring DC amperage (i.e. one that has a Hall effect sensor in it), in addition to all of the above items.
 

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Username: Southernrebel

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MS,

You can't test them based on the nominal load, but you can on the apparent load. (Box rise)

The #'s will not be exact, but you can get pretty close. You have to get Current and voltage, that way you can determine AC impedance and power. Different subs will react differently to the box, so you will not get the same power to different subs. The different sub's inductance values are different.

And yes, I would suggest the use of an O-scope (actually I do).


Here is alil test session I did last weekend:
https://www.ecoustics.com/electronics/forum/car-audio/483457.html
 

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Username: Hdubb

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thats good info canaan, and its easy to understand
 

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Username: Johnfiac

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MS thats not easy to come by tho the ossiliscope i can understand to make sure ur not clipping and all but like Canaan said its just a close number if u do it right u usually within +/-100RMS range of the actual output not considering box rise and all.. i dont really think resistors are needed for testing when u use the subs tho as its pointless becuz ur subs wont ever see that power.. only the resistors. testing with the subs is much better so u kno what they see
 

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osciliscope would still be great for tuning amps to the max b4 clipping tho..
 

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Username: Nd4spd18

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" Different subs will react differently to the box, so you will not get the same power to different subs "


Thats is the problem. Your testing will be accurate for that specific speaker and that specific box, and ONLY at the specific frequency you played. IMO not very useful for daily system which will play music.



With a resistive load (speakers are reactive) you can measure maximum amplifier output across the entire frequency spectrum.
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