im not sure how many of you have heard of the lightning audio strike series with their their VC2 subs. and i know all of you have heard of the avalanche or RE XXX if you have just looked at the titles here. but when it comes down to it the avalanche isnt as loud as the XXX and the VC2 blows the XXX away. atleastg they do in Georgia i dont know if they change in the other states but here at all the comps all i ever see is Lightning Audio winning.